jus wanna talk 2u abt JAPANESE HORROR FILM

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the movie version of riki-oh should be HK produced actually ; )

dayo, Thursday, 1 September 2011 00:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

wait you mean House/Hausu?

Cass McCars (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 1 September 2011 00:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah that one!

dayo, Thursday, 1 September 2011 00:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

ju-on... try to find the 2 original tv movies

cure and pulse by kurosawa

see whatever you can by tsukamoto (he did iron man, actually think that's one of his least interesting films)

if you're interested in older stuff check out kwaidan and onibaba

some other good asian horror films are the eye (hk) and a tale of two sisters (s korea)

hello I love you but I've chosen darkness my old friend (Edward III), Thursday, 1 September 2011 01:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

Well yeah, I know all of THAT stuff. Ju-On/Ringu were, like, nice enough and etc. but I'm looking for less cerebral/psychological and more like fucking weirdo intense/gory/batshit. Also Tale of Two Sisters was a total let-down. The Eye was p good though!

Cass McCars (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 1 September 2011 01:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

a la Guniea Pig

Cass McCars (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 1 September 2011 01:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

Jigoku (1960 version) is completely batshit crazy, and astonishingly violent considering it's over 50 years old now.

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\etc (Matt #2), Thursday, 1 September 2011 02:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

c+p'd from contenderizer via 90's horror thread just for easy reference. I see he already beat me to it re: 964 Pinocchio and Rubber's Lover

house: amazing girlschool haunted house flick, "has to be seen to be believed." recently on criterion, so a good print's easy to find.
blind beast: sexual psychothriller about a blind sculptor and the model he imprisons & terrorizes. beautiful & crazy.
thirst: wonderfully unpredictable korean vampire movie from oldboy director chan-wook park. my favorite of his films, fits your "slick/well done" criteria.
branded to kill: not horror at all - an experimental/oddball gangster flick from seijun suzuki. so rad, another all-time favorite.
stacy: ultra-cheap & parodic zombie comedy with a very disturbing subtext. neither slick nor well done, but i found it perversely moving.
save the green planet!: strange korean "comedy" about a messed-up man's attempt to save the earth from aliens. maybe. or maybe not. strange, funny, grisly and rather sad.
uzumaki: an entire town is slowly drawn into a series of disturbing spirals, for reasons unknown. inventive as hell on an obviously limited budget.
kairo: like naked blood, a strange and obviously metaphorical horror film that won't quite explain itself. low-key but excellent.
suicide circle, noriko's dinner table and strange circus: three films by shion sono. suicide circle is the most famous in the states, but noriko's dinner table (a sequel of sort) and strange circus are far better. the latter is extremely transgressive, at least borderline tasteless, so fair warning.
visitor Q: uh, while we're pushing boundaries... takashi miike at his most depraved. i can't say i really enjoy it, but it certainly does leave a mark.
the happiness of the katakuris: miike in a somewhat more friendly mode. a zombie comedy musical about family togetherness (same theme as visitor Q, oddly). the best, see it now!
wild zero: kitchen sink blend of greaser punk musical, sci-fi zombie splatter and queer romance. a mess, but a hell of a ride.
tears of the black tiger: insanely over-the-top thai "western" melodrama, one of the most relentlessly stylized films i've ever seen
a tale of two sisters: another slickly executed korean film, this one a horror mystery about girlhood, ghosts and mysterious identity.
rubber's lover and 964 pinocchio: two cheap, seemingly homemade industrial art films from shozin fukui. fetishy and super abrasive in the tetsuo mode, if not so well developed.

― contenderizer, Monday, May 30, 2011 3:55 AM (3 months ago) Bookmark

Cass McCars (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 1 September 2011 02:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

man all love and all but if tale of two sisters was a letdown idk if my opinions are going to line up w/yours because i think its amazing

from that list i dig the batshittedness of uzumaki, and highly rec save the green planet and house. house in particular is kind of absolute imperative viewing, it is so out of its time and place that its hard to comprehend how it happened. liked tears of the black tiger but it isnt horror at all. did not like wild zero, HATE suicide circle.

i also think that "Marebito" is one of the most amazing dark dark films you are likely to find and is woefully undersung. it might be my favorite japanese horror film, if it werent for house.

let me save you some time - yes, it's probably racist (jjjusten), Thursday, 1 September 2011 03:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

Oh I've already got House on DVD (and t-shirt). It is all-time

Cass McCars (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 1 September 2011 04:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

you're looking for the really, really sick/crazy Ginnipigu-type JP shit, Stevie? here's a shopping list:

Mu-zan E
Niku Daruma (Tumbling Doll of Flesh)
Red Room 1 & 2
Eating Schoolgirls: Osaka Telephone Club
All Night Long 1-6
Kichiku dai Enkai
Woman's Flesh: My Red Guts
Suicide Dolls (Tamakichi Anaru is your man. one sick MF)

HK "Cat III" of historical importance/interest
Intruder
The Untold Story
The Rape After
Run and Kill
Seeding of a Ghost
Ebola Syndrome
Eternal Evil of Asia
Centipede Horror

... and just for fun
Big Tits Zombie
Cruel Restaurant
Grotesque

silent ouzo eclipse (Mr. Hal Jam), Thursday, 1 September 2011 14:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

Sion Sono's latest, Cold Fish, is excellent. wasn't a fan of Exte or Noriko's Dinner Table, but he knocked my sox off this time. v. much like a S. Korean film made in Japan - like Miike working from a Ji-woon or Chan-wook script.

silent ouzo eclipse (Mr. Hal Jam), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

*adds cold fish to queue*

hello I love you but I've chosen darkness my old friend (Edward III), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

Niku Daruma (Tumbling Doll of Flesh)

dont watch this movie

:: (Lamp), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

keep repeating to yourself: "it's only a movie... it's only a movie..."

silent ouzo eclipse (Mr. Hal Jam), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

out on video 9/13 (CF)

silent ouzo eclipse (Mr. Hal Jam), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

its still p upsetting even if its 'just a movie'!!!

:: (Lamp), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

wuss. (:

good thing i didn't include Daisuke Yamanouchi's 'Girl Hell (Injure Rape Murder Film)' in my list. wouldn't want to offend tender sensibilities.

silent ouzo eclipse (Mr. Hal Jam), Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

"(Injure Rape Murder Film)"

crosspost with things i have seen on t-shirts thread.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 1 September 2011 15:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

... add a jaundiced Sonic, OBAMA in alphabet-block letters, some wilted mudflap roses, and i'll take ten of those tees.

silent ouzo eclipse (Mr. Hal Jam), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah honestly if theres a movie worse than tumbling doll of flesh than im not really interested.

i think this stuff is kinda interesting in that it tests my limits of what i can watch w/o making myself sick but theres a flatness and cheapness to a lot of the jp stuff that ive watched that makes it deeply unsettling? not even the gore so much as the grainy, ugly sex scenes

:: (Lamp), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

you are charlie sheen and i claim my $5

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

haha is the story that he called the fbi thinking he watched an actual snuff film true? someone told me that during the TIGER BLOOD WINNING sideshow and i did not believe them

:: (Lamp), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

repellent, flat, and cheap, yes. but they still have intrinsic value as cultural artifacts. more so than anything Fred Vogel or Lucifer Valentine has hacked up over here.

silent ouzo eclipse (Mr. Hal Jam), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah. Sheen turned the FBI on to "Flower of Flesh and Blood." maroon.

silent ouzo eclipse (Mr. Hal Jam), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

hey mr. hal jam, not to derail, but what's the most flat cheap repellent but with value horror flick you've seen recently. i need something to watch today. (maybe just repellent.)

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

mu-zan e has an actual plot and is probably the 'best' from that list that ive seen

:: (Lamp), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

"but with value," eh? have to think. everything that comes to mind errs either on the side of attempted artiness or rank incompetence.

silent ouzo eclipse (Mr. Hal Jam), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

haha well i'll take those too.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

though rank incompetence prolly more appealing.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

have you watched the cerda stuff strongo? not japanese, and short, but

xpost ok nevermind, the thing with cerda is that hes way too competent, was going to rec "Aftermath"

let me save you some time - yes, it's probably racist (jjjusten), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

there's always Nathan Schiff...

silent ouzo eclipse (Mr. Hal Jam), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

still if you want to ruin your day, i think its on netflix streaming, and its amazing and fucked up

let me save you some time - yes, it's probably racist (jjjusten), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

i assume you dont mean the cheryl ladd movie.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah if you haven't seen the cerda stuff... netflix has aftermath and genesis iirc

hello I love you but I've chosen darkness my old friend (Edward III), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

oh the autopsy movie! i did see that.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

^ times when you know yr the only person in yr family whod ever say something like that

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

there's a film called Buzz Saw(2005, d: Robin Garrels) which i find fascinating. artless and but insinuatingly weird. and another one, RF Pangborn's The Sadness (2007), which is all kinds of awful but inexplicably enjoyable.

silent ouzo eclipse (Mr. Hal Jam), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

artless and incoherent, that is. just your typical "alien force takes over apartment building, causing power tools to become sentient" flick. Pangborn's "movie" has a can't-miss exploitation hook - little girl, sold by her junkie parents to satanic cultists for sacrificial purposes, comes back from the dead to torture-kill everyone who wronged her - but the technical credits are epically inept, all around.

silent ouzo eclipse (Mr. Hal Jam), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

some of the set pieces in Buzz Saw are like skid-row Buñuel! unintentionally, i assume.

silent ouzo eclipse (Mr. Hal Jam), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

"just repellent" is easier, strongo. The Taint!

silent ouzo eclipse (Mr. Hal Jam), Thursday, 1 September 2011 16:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

Lamp have you seen A Serbian Film bcz I've never seen this Tumbling Doll thing but I can't imagine anything worse than that

Cass McCars (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 1 September 2011 17:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

it's much worse (or at least harsher in effect) than the glossy, competently made ASF. all Anaru, Yamanouchi, et al and ASF have in common are their motivations: exploitation and provocation for monetary gain.

silent ouzo eclipse (Mr. Hal Jam), Thursday, 1 September 2011 17:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

Naked Blood! Absolutely gross. My mate literally turned green during the eyeball scene.

It was a Thursday night. I was working late... (dog latin), Thursday, 1 September 2011 17:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah a serbian film is almost an attempt to put a 'mainstream' horror gloss on like august underground or s.thing from what i can tell the list of guinea pig-style films that mr. hal jam listed are all on a way deeper level, they function a lot like pornography (and sometimes like w/tumbling doll include hardcore sex scenes) in the way they dispense w/ any distractions from the gore

:: (Lamp), Thursday, 1 September 2011 17:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

this stuff is total porno for psychos. evidence of the festering sickness, curdled repression, and extreme misogyny at the heart of Japanese society. if any was needed. if there's even a modicum of historical accuracy to the likes of the notorious Shogun's "Torture" films of the late '60s, Japan's royally messed-up morals are not just a modern problem.

silent ouzo eclipse (Mr. Hal Jam), Thursday, 1 September 2011 17:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

oh hey strongo if you want the other end of awful, might i suggest visions of suffering which is a million miles too long and utterly gross in both subject and skill of filmmaker. also not japanese tho

Beemster roquebag (jjjusten), Thursday, 1 September 2011 18:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

VOS and not POAK? i actually think Iskanov has some talent as a (music video) director.

silent ouzo eclipse (Mr. Hal Jam), Thursday, 1 September 2011 18:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

poak i have indeed seen.

strongo hulkington's ghost dad, Thursday, 1 September 2011 18:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

oh ha i was actually thinking of POAK

Beemster roquebag (jjjusten), Thursday, 1 September 2011 18:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

heh. both fit your description. POAK a mite moreso.

silent ouzo eclipse (Mr. Hal Jam), Thursday, 1 September 2011 18:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah, i think VOS tries a little harder to be a movie rather than a bunch of psycho setpieces interspersed w/grainy moody landscape + 3rd rate skinny puppy soundtracks

Beemster roquebag (jjjusten), Thursday, 1 September 2011 18:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

anyone seen confessions?

kreayshawn mullins (cozen), Thursday, 1 September 2011 18:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

OK so 964 Pinocchio was

  • totally batshit
  • really slow-paced/scenes much longer than they needed to be
  • something akin to Jodorowsky making a Japanese horror film after spending a weekend watching nothing but Tool music vidoes and the Æon Flux box set
  • largely incoherent
  • filled with really pretty/fascinating shots and events and such
  • much more enjoyable when I stopped trying to parse any semblance of narrative and watched it as some sort of nonsensical experimental piece

The-Dreams That Money Can Buy (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 3 September 2011 06:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm also adding Meatball Machine to my list of stuff to see

The-Dreams That Money Can Buy (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 3 September 2011 06:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

Can someone explain the ending of Cure to me?

calstars, Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

anyone seen confessions?

Yes, it's dire

A++++++ would deal with again (Matt #2), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 18:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

Can someone explain the ending of Cure to me?

― calstars, Tuesday, May 22, 2012 2:42 PM (1 hour ago)

SPOILERS OBV been a long time but iirc the detective takes over the hypnosis guy's business, killings continue etc

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 19:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

missed this earlier, but yeah, more or less. the exact mechanics remain pretty obscure, but that seems to be the gist.

spextor vs bextor (contenderizer), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 07:39 (2 years ago) Permalink

Anyone know a film where a ringu style girl suddenly appears out of nowhere and flies across the room at a dude sitting in a cafe or something? Haven't seen it and very unlikely to want to but the image is in my head from somewhere.

the fey monster (ledge), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 21:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

the eye?

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 21:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

Omg that's it, thx. BUT NO THX - watched that clip with the sound off and pretty much through my fingers and it still freaked me out, lol. (loving the horror poll nevertheless!)

the fey monster (ledge), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 21:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

forgot all about the elevator scene @ 4:15, so awes. too bad it fell apart at the end.

ps this movie is from HK not japan

diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 21:23 (2 years ago) Permalink


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