JAZZ IS LIKE HEROIN TO ME ! ! ! ~~~~ ILM POST-1945 JAZZ ALBUMS POLL - THE RESULTS COUNTDOWN (now counting top 25!)

some great stuff up tomorrow btw

here is the 250-61 UPDATED SPOTIFY PLAYLIST of what is available.

Poll is proving a great education. Favourite discovery so far is Grant Green's Idle Moments

Hell, favorite discovery for me is Grant Green, period. Only previously heard him on Jimmy Smith and Larry Young records.

do not understand this. To my ears, it is majestic.

― emil.y, miércoles 31 de agosto de 2011 21:50 (Yesterday) Bookmark

I don't hate it! It's great. I just lean towards later Cecil Taylor more. Silent Tongues, One Too Many Salty Swift and Not Goodbye, Winged Serpent (Sliding Quadrants).

Kind of blue or a love supreme to win then? possibly karma or black saint and sinner lady? Highest fusion lp will be headhunters? All those top 10 anyway. Im betting birds of fire and hot rats to be top 20!! And more sun ra of course.

yeah it's good and well worth hearing but not quite the super session it appears to be

― excuse me you're a helluva guy (m coleman), Wednesday, August 31, 2011 5:23 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

totally disagree w/ this

love supreme is like bottom hundred in quality imo, not even top 5 coltrane

ppl voting for vocal mantras smh

Artist count so far -
Charles Mingus - 5
Grant Green - 5
Archie Shepp - 6
Thelonious Monk - 6
Herbie Hancock - 6
Pharoah Sanders - 7
Sun Ra - 10
John Coltrane - 15 (plus on other albums)
Miles Davis - 21

I've nothing against Miles, but this is kinda ridiculous; it seems pretty much every one of his 50s, 60s, and 70s albums will place in the poll. Can't imagine any other major genre where one artist would eclipse all the others so strongly... Whenever I go to the jazz shelf in a general record store (i.e. one that doesn't specialize in jazz), it looks like half the records on the shelf are various Miles reissues and compilations.

ppl voting for vocal mantras smh

Oh come on, the vocal mantra lasts for maybe a minute, and it's hardly the thing that makes the album great. Sure, A Love Supreme has unnecessarily eclipsed all the other great Coltrane albums, but that happens to a lot of artists (it's the same with Kind of Blue for Miles, Ah Um for Mingus, Time Out for Dave Brubeck, etc). On the other hand, with artists like Coltrane who have such a large and sprawling discography, it might be good a thing there is a canonical album for newbies to start with, especially since it's a great album that exemplifies well what was great about Coltrane. With artists like Sun Ra who've released dozens of albums but none of them is the canonical one, the newbie might be kinda lost at where to start. (This is certainly one reasons I've never really delved into his music.)

"one of the reasons"

60    Hank Mobley - Straight No Filter (1966) 1099 Points, 10 votes
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000589UT.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/3G4RWt6cqZDeNumYAZOL8C

this thread has had an inverse effect on my bank account. got the blue note covers book, maiden voyage and money jungle and get paid tomorrow so may have to look for some more.

I'm going to have to buy that blue note covers book aren't i?
Sam do you use spotify?

yuh but i only have an ipod, no iphone, so i have to have seperate mp3s to listen to at work

oh well, jazz on spotify makes an excellent soundtrack for footy manager when you're at home at least.

fo sho but atm the timbo playlist is driving my 'pick a team' page craziness ott. thinking orient. or maybe fiorentina.

Any idea when FM2012 is out?

59    Duke Ellington - Far East Suite (1967) 1125 Points, 9 votes
http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/e/elling_duke_fareastsu_102b.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/1JQ7TkPUI1x04CCZLpYMzU

lets all thank matt p for his constructive criticism of this poll

One of Ellington's best, surely on the same level as his 40s recordings.

58    Donald Byrd - off to the races (1958) 1132 Points, 11 votes
http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/b/byrd_donald_offtother_102b.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/37LKWNJ1xP9OlbKwjDYkZi

xp yeah, that's the one that got me out of the 30s-40s for ellington and into his later work.

not sure if i've heard that byrd album tho. is there something about it that distinguishes it from his other early blue notes?

jackie mclean is on it!

Though obviously he's on a few

ha yeah -- i think the early donald byrd blue notes i've heard haven't knocked me out. solid, obviously, but maybe not as strong as, say, lee morgan's stuff from the same period.

but maybe not as strong as, say, lee morgan's stuff from the same period.

yes, but what was??

lee morgan ruled blue note in the early 60s

Certainly came up with a big hit for them.

57    Charles Mingus - Let My Children Hear Music (1972) 1135 Points, 10 votes
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41%2BJFDMx8gL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/03zH4bkGb2jSZAQIVW2px1

never heard of that; any good?

oh yeah

:)

Yes. "The Shoes of the Fisherman's Wife Are Some Jive Ass Slippers" is there!

One of Mingus' best, definitely. Fucking cinematic.

shit rocks

apparently it was his favourite album he made

mingus's last great record, probably -- there are some good tunes on the albums that follow, but none of those 70s records are masterpieces. this one seems like a fully formed statement, everything perfectly put together.

56    Art Blakey & the Jazz Messengers - Moanin' (1958) 1151 Points, 10 votes
http://pixhost.me/avaxhome/b8/80/000c80b8_medium.jpeg
http://open.spotify.com/album/5PzlTnVafjgt5RtjTdIKoC

weird I've never even heard of any of the last four

xp

okay I know that Art Blakey one

you have some catching up to do then

"Fleurette Africaine" off of Money Jungle has to be one of the most beautiful recordings ever made.

oh absolutely, listened to it again yesterday and it really stands out.

I am listening to "Let My Children Hear Music" now it is really fantastic, I don't know why i never really got into it before. I guess when i started really investigating Mingus a couple of years ago it was more orchestral than what i was looking for with him. I was very wrong..

55    Wayne Shorter - JuJu (1964) 1194 Points, 12 votes
http://www.jazz59.com/joefarrell/images/juju.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/46VoobaZCtFPReElOHFEqq

weird I've never even heard of any of the last four

Funny the gaps in what people know. I suspect you're more familiar with jazz than I am, so this surprises me, but I know I've surprised people with some of the things I don't know.

eh there's a ton of jazz stuff I've never heard. prior to the internet collecting this shit was a ton of work/$$$

54    Herbie Hancock - Maiden Voyage (1965) 1200 Points, 12 votes
http://minoltamania.com/Herbie%20Hancock_Maiden%20Voyage.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/7huPJTTsWVt854oZkr88mf

shakey I'm sure you know this album

yeah I know that one. never owned a copy tho