JAZZ IS LIKE HEROIN TO ME ! ! ! ~~~~ ILM POST-1945 JAZZ ALBUMS POLL - THE RESULTS COUNTDOWN (now counting top 25!)

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the playing on Spectrum is amazing. One for the rock fans - it features Tommy Bolin on guitar.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Spectrum has some nice moments, but man I can't stand the hard rock guitar riffs on it.

Tuomas, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

(x-post, hahaha!)

Tuomas, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

^ posts completely in character hahaha

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

148    j.j. johnson - proof positive  (1964)  619 Points, 7 votes

http://open.spotify.com/album/7dTSo2PZoS6W7aKny9I1hW

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

excellent album this.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

147    Miles Davis - Workin'  (1959) 620 Points, 7 votes

http://open.spotify.com/album/1vktIbBz606HKcMr6Cs6jw

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

I didn't vote for that Monk album only because my own lists start at 1949. Before that, LPs didn't exist. Those Monk sides were issued as 78s, and first issued as a compilation on a 10" LP in 1951, and expanded from 8 to 12 songs on 12" in 1956. This poll doesn't include comps does it?

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Workin is a must-hear even if you're not into 50s jazz so much - "trane's blues" is where the big guy comes into his own

excuse me you're a helluva guy (m coleman), Monday, 29 August 2011 17:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

that prestige box of the miles quintet is essssssential. sort of interesting -- not really similar to a lot of the stuff that was happening at the same time? at least to my ears. more delicate and deliberate than the blue note/hard bop stuff.

tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

This monk comp got in because people pleaded that it should be and that it wasn't a greatest hits style comp etc.

And Workin' is indeed great.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

"alabama" just came up on the spotify playlist, which is always a "stop you in your tracks" kind of song.

tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol followed up by an ad for mastodon's new album. #awkwardspotifysegues

tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

TIE
145    Art Blakey - Art Blakey's Jazz Messengers with Thelonious Monk (1958) 621 Points, 5 votes


http://open.spotify.com/album/3C2hpKCQ1C8l8F5sLAQHXe

145    Herbie Hancock - Mr. Hands (1980) 621 Points, 5 votes   

http://open.spotify.com/album/6RvJbmTWu2vW5XRubeZeTF

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

don't know that herbie album. Seems strangely high

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

me neither -- is it disco-y?
y'know, i've never been able to get too into that jazz messengers/monk record. i should give it another try. doesn't seem as strong as both of the principals' records from around the same time.

tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

mr. hands isn't disco-y at all, not really like the headhunters heavy funk era either. kinda like herbie stepped back from what he'd been doing, incorporated some world music vibes. nice.

i feel the same way about the jazz messengers/monk. not an audiophile by any means but i never thought it sounded that great (performances aside)

excuse me you're a helluva guy (m coleman), Monday, 29 August 2011 17:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah that might be one of the problems, monk's piano sounding kinda harsh?
i'll have to check out mr. hands.

tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 18:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's not that disco-y, except for "Just Around the Corner", which is an awesome piece of disco-funk-jazz. Most of it is actually pretty straightforward jazz, and it has Herbie at his most melodic, but his using a whole bunch of early-80s synths whose sound is of acquired taste. Personally, I love it! Also, it has one of the most wtf covers ever to grace an album by a mainstream recording artist.

Tuomas, Monday, 29 August 2011 18:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

(xx-post)

Tuomas, Monday, 29 August 2011 18:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

hee, yeah that cover is rad.

tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 18:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

144    Grant Green - Matador (1964) 624 Points, 6 votes

http://open.spotify.com/album/5eubtUqOh4fqfaZXA8Ha4X

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 18:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Grant Green recorded so much high-quality music for Blue Note during the first half of the '60s that a number of excellent sessions went unissued at the time. Even so, it's still hard to figure out why 1964's Matador was only released in Japan in 1979, prior to its U.S. CD reissue in 1990 -- it's a classic and easily one of Green's finest albums. In contrast to the soul-jazz and jazz-funk for which Green is chiefly remembered, Matador is a cool-toned, straight-ahead modal workout that features some of Green's most advanced improvisation, even more so than his sessions with Larry Young. Part of the reason for that is that Green is really pushed by his stellar backing unit: pianist McCoy Tyner, bassist Bob Cranshaw, and drummer Elvin Jones. Not only is Green leading a group that features one-half of the classic Coltrane Quartet, but he even takes on Coltrane's groundbreaking arrangement of "My Favorite Things" -- and more than holds his own over ten-plus minutes. In fact, every track on the album is around that length; there are extended explorations of two Green originals ("Green Jeans" and the title track) and Duke Pearson's Middle Eastern-tinged "Bedouin," plus the bonus cut "Wives and Lovers," a swinging Bacharach pop tune not on the Japanese issue. The group interplay is consistently strong, but really the spotlight falls chiefly on Green, whose crystal-clear articulation flourishes in this setting. And, for all of Matador's advanced musicality, it ends up being surprisingly accessible. This sound may not be Green's claim to fame, but Matador remains one of his greatest achievements.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 18:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

this one is great - m favorite things works surprisingly well with guitar. doesn't hurt to have coltrane's band behind him of course.

tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 18:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

Just dropping in to say that this has been an amazing list so far. Lots of stuff that I know and love, but just as much that I haven't really listened to much, so I'm extra psyched that it is all going into Spotify. Thanks all!!!

Moodles, Monday, 29 August 2011 18:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah spotify is making this a pleasure.

tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 18:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

thirded -- am really enjoying knowing that it is all there on spotify for those times when i have time to go through it

i drive a wood paneled station dragon (La Lechera), Monday, 29 August 2011 18:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

143    Freddie Hubbard - Sing Me A Song of Songmy (1971) 625 Points, 6 votes

http://open.spotify.com/album/6BZmB3e4cPEBkCX7nTVMpP

Dunno this album, but it gets 2 stars on AMG

This is a strange LP. Trumpeter Freddie Hubbard and his quintet (which consisted of tenor-saxophonist Junior Cook, pianist Kenny Barron, bassist Art Booth and drummer Louis Hayes) is joined by a chorus, a string orchestra, several reciters, an organist and a variety of processed sounds emanating from tapes. The thoughts expressed in the music (topical and anti-war messages) are quite sincere but the abstract sounds will only be enjoyed by a limited audience; jazz fans should look elsewhere.

I think,like MR. Hands, Tuomas nominated it.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 18:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

I remember tuomas playing a track from it in outloud and it was nice. That was the first I had heard of it, but it seems a few of you do. Will check it out later.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 18:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

142 Joe Henderson - In 'N Out (1964) 629 Points, 6 votes

http://open.spotify.com/album/4KI0kC5rANmc5YeXyNshDr

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 18:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

This is a really good album.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 18:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

wtf @ random hubbard album

thats gotta be from these dudes nominating harp jazz and sci fi record covers right

D-40, Monday, 29 August 2011 18:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's not an ilm poll without huge albums being left out completely,finishing low,some bizarrely low and some weird inclusions, is it?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 18:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

194 Freddie Hubbard - Hub-Tones (1962) 519 Points, 5 votes
143 Freddie Hubbard - Sing Me A Song of Songmy (1971) 625 Points, 6 votes

you guys are nuts placing that over Hub-Tones!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 18:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

141    Don Cherry - Brown Rice (1975)  633 Points, 6 votes

http://open.spotify.com/album/6r01XL7XUvSTK4p6M7bmbC

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 19:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

xxxp because harp jazz is not Real Jazz, right? o_O

The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Monday, 29 August 2011 19:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

I didn't nominate Songmy, but I voted for it. Probably not as "classic" as some other Hubbard albums, but it's unlike anything I've ever heard, and that counts for something. The intro alone is a brilliantly creepy piece of experimentalism, though I think we have to thank Ilhan Mimaroglu (the producer of the album) more than Hubbard for all the weirdness.

Tuomas, Monday, 29 August 2011 19:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

140    Charles Mingus - New Tijuana Moods (1957) 635 points, 5

http://open.spotify.com/album/4kaQvqgh3GVhDhV0OeNYIwvotes

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 19:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

you guys are nuts placing that over Hub-Tones!

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, August 29, 2011 1:58 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

and ready for freddie!!

D-40, Monday, 29 August 2011 19:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's not an ilm poll without huge albums being left out completely,finishing low,some bizarrely low and some weird inclusions, is it?

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, August 29, 2011 1:54 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

more like its not ilm without extra credit given to albums that are 'weird' in genre polls

D-40, Monday, 29 August 2011 19:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

tijuana moods is pretty wild -- the spoken stuff gets out there. liner notes are hilarious too, in usual mingus style.

tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 19:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

"ilm post-1945 jazz albums that do not feature anything weird poll"

Spectrist, Monday, 29 August 2011 19:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

not just genre polls...'o superman' winning 1981 poll

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 29 August 2011 19:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

Who said anything about "extra credit"? The album placed at #143 (and it was #60 in my ballot), it's not like we voted it to top ten or something.

Tuomas, Monday, 29 August 2011 19:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

"ilm post-1945 jazz albums that do not feature anything weird poll"

― Spectrist, Monday, August 29, 2011 2:21 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

who said anything about 'not featuring anything weird' ... im talking about 18 sun ra albums making a list that has 'live at birdland' near the bottom of the 250

D-40, Monday, 29 August 2011 19:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

o superman is great!!! (can't believe the o superman argument has spilled over into this poll thread lol)

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 19:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Don't worry Deej, I'm sure there'll be much more Coltrane than Sun Ra in the actual top 100.

Tuomas, Monday, 29 August 2011 19:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

139 Herbie Hancock - Man-child 635 Points, 7 votes

http://open.spotify.com/album/5ez9bb1h1hOLV8Wb5YCmkj

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 19:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

i voted for this, one of my fave HH albums, admittedly it's more a funk album, but hey

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 19:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Tijuana Moods was one of my top picks. I think I nommed that, too.

The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Monday, 29 August 2011 19:40 (2 years ago) Permalink


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