JAZZ IS LIKE HEROIN TO ME ! ! ! ~~~~ ILM POST-1945 JAZZ ALBUMS POLL - THE RESULTS COUNTDOWN (now counting top 25!)

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Recap - 250-151

250 Thelonious Monk - Criss Cross (1963) 359 4
249 Herbie Hancock - Blow-Up (1966) 364 3
248 gil evans - out of the cool (1960) 365 3
247 Clifford Brown and Max Roach at Basin Street (1956) 367 3
246 Charles Mingus - Blues And Roots (1959) 369 4
245 Sun Ra - Strange Strings (1966) 373 4
243(tie)Sonny Sharrock - Guitar (1986) 376 2
243(tie)243 Milford Graves - Babi (1977) 376 2
242 Art Ensemble Of Chicago - Message To Our Folks (1969) 377 3
240(tie)Peter Brötzmann - Nipples (1969) 377 4
240(tie)Elvin Jones - Dear John C. (1965) 377 4
239 Roland Kirk - Natural Black Inventions: Root Strata (1971) 380 2
238 Sun Ra - Other Planes of There (1966) 381 3
237 John Coltrane - Live at Birdland (1963) 384 4
236 Herbie Hancock - Thrust (1974) 386 3
235 Les McCann & Eddie Harris - Swiss Movement (1969) 387 3
234 Derek Bailey - Ballads (2002) 387 5
233 Max Roach - We Insist! Freedom Now Suite (1960) 394 4
232 Roland Kirk - Blacknuss 398 (1972) 4
231 Sun Ra - The Nubians Of Plutonia (1966) 402
230 Bill Evans & Jim Hall - Undercurrent (1963) 412 4
229 Bobby Hutcherson - San Francisco (1970) 413 3
228 Miles Davis - Miles Davis Quartet (1954) 415 4
227 Marion Brown Quartet - Marion Brown Quartet (19670 415 5
226 Miles Davis - Miles Davis and the Modern Jazz Giants (1954-56) 417 4
225 Grant Green - Street Of Dreams (1964) 422 4
224 Wes Montgomery - The Incredible Jazz Guitar (1960) 431 4
223 Archie Shepp - Yasmina, a black woman (1969) 432 4
222 Eric Dolphy - Iron Man (1963) 436 4
221 Ornette Coleman - Ornette! (1961) 436 5
220 Bill Evans - Portrait In Jazz (1959) 440 3
219 McCoy Tyner - Song of the New World (1973) 453 Points, 4 votes
218 Baby Face Willette - Stop And Listen (1961) 457 (Points) 5 votes
217 Pharoah Sanders - Summun Bukmun Umyun (1970) 458 Points, 5 votes
216 Sun Ra - Lanquidity (1978) 460 Points, 3 votes
215 Albert Ayler - Love Cry (1967) 461 Points, 6 votes
214 Antonio Carlos Jobim - Stone Flower (1970) 465 Points, 3 votes
213 Nina Simone - At Town Hall (1959) 470 Points, 4 votes
212 Bobbi Humphrey - Blacks and Blues (1974) 473 Points, 6 Votes
211 Evan Parker, Derek Bailey, Han Bennink - Topography of the Lungs (1970) 474 Points, 3 Votes
210 John Coltrane/ Don Cherry - The Avant Garde (1960) 476 Points, 5 votes
209 Jimmy Smith - Root Down (1972) 477 Points, 4 votes
208 Albert Ayler - New grass (1969) 478 Points, 4 votes
207 Pharoah Sanders - Izipho Zam (1969) 478 Points, 5 Votes
206 Thelonious Monk and John Coltrane (1957) 479 Points, 3 votes
205 Dizzy Gillespie - At Newport (1957) 501 Points, 4 votes
204 Wayne Shorter - The Allseeing Eye (1965) 501 Points, 6 votes
203 Alice Coltrane - Eternity (1976) 502 Points, 4 votes
202 Cecil Taylor - Nefertiti (1962) 505 Points, 4 votes
201 Jon Hassell/Brian Eno - Fourth World Vol. 1: Possible Musics (1990) 507 Points, 5 Votes

200 John Coltrane - Ballads (1962) 510 Points, 5 Votes
199 Sarah Vaughan - Sarah Vaughan ( "Sarah Vaughan with Clifford Brown") (1954) 512 Points,4 Votes
198 Sonny Rollins - The Cutting Edge (1974) 512 Points, 6 Votes
197 Jimmy Smith - The Sermon (1958) 513 points, 4 Votes
196 John Coltrane - Coltrane Plays The Blues (1962) 513 Points 5 votes
195 Art Pepper - Art Pepper Meets the Rhythm Section (1957) 515 Points, 5 votes
194 Freddie Hubbard - Hub-Tones (1962) 519 Points, 5 votes
193 Eddie Henderson - Sunburst (1975) 519 Points, 7 votes
192 Freddie Hubbard - Ready For Freddie (1961) 521 Points, 4 Votes
191 Don Wilkerson - Elder Don (1962) 523 points, 5 votes
190 Blue Mitchell - The Thing To Do (1964) 525 Points, 5 votes
TIE
188 John Coltrane - Traneing In (1958) 526 Points, 4 votes
188 John Coltrane - Lush Life (1958) 526 Points, 4 votes
187 Lou Donaldson - Blues Walk (1958) 528 points, 3 votes
186 Andrew Hill - Compulsion (1965) 529 Points, 6 votes
185 Art Blakey & the Jazz Messengers - A Night In Tunisia (1957) 530 Points, 5 votes
184 Archie Shepp - On This Night (1966) 530 Points, 6 votes
183 Jackie McLean - New And Old Gospel (1967) 534 Points, 6 votes
TIE
181 Alice Coltrane - World Galaxy (1972) 535 Points, 5 votes
181 Albert Ayler - Bells (1965) 535 Points, 5 votes
180 Jackie McLean - Let Freedom Ring (1962) 537 Points, 7 votes
179 Miles Davis - My Funny Valentine (1965) 539 Points, 5 votes
178 Wayne Shorter - Super Nova (1969) 540 Points, 5 votes
177 Tony Williams - Lifetime (1964) 542 Points, 7 votes
176 Archie Shepp - Attica Blues (1972) 545 Points, 6 votes
175 Curtis Fuller - the opener (1957) 548 Points, 4 votes, One #1 vote
174 Cannonball Adderley - Somethin' Else (1958) 548 Points, 5 votes
173 Donald Byrd - places and spaces (1975) 550 Points, 5 votes
172 Charles Mingus - The Clown (1957) 550 Points, 7 votes
TIE
170 Count Basie - The Atomic Mr Basie (1957) 553 Points, 5 votes
170 Miles Davis - Seven Steps To Heaven (1963) 553 Points, 5 votes
169 Sun Ra - Atlantis (1967) 554 Points, 7 votes
168 Noah Howard - The Black Ark 558 6 votes
167 Lee Morgan - Live At The Lighthouse (1970) 561 Points, 4 votes
166 Pharoah Sanders - Journey to the One 561 Points, 5 votes
165 Kenny Burrell - Midnight Blue (1963) 563 Points 5 votes
164 Miles Davis - Walkin' (1954) 563 Points 6 votes
163 Grant Green - Solid (1964) 564 Points, 6 votes
162 Andrew Hill - Judgment! (1964) 578 Points, 5 votes
161 Eric Dolphy - Out There (1960) 580 Points, 6 votes
160 Herbie Mann - Memphis underground (1969) 586 Points, 5 votes
Tie
158 Dorothy Ashby - Afro Harping (1968) 592 Points, 6 votes
158 Yusef Lateef - Eastern Sounds (1961) 592 Points, 6 votes
157 Miles Davis - Dark Magus (1974) 595 Points, 6 votes
156 Cannonball Adderley - Mercy Mercy Mercy! (1966) 597 Points, 4 votes One #1
155 Miles Davis - Pangaea (1975) 598 Points, 6 votes
154 Mahavishnu Orchestra - The Inner Mounting Flame (1971) 600 points, 7 votes
153 Hank Mobley - Workout (1961) 604 Points, 6 votes
152 stan getz and joao gilberto - getz/gilberto (1964) 607 Points, 5 votes
151 Charlie Parker - Jazz at Massey Hall (1953) 612 Points, 7 votes

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 16:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hope everyone is enjoying the poll so far. Enjoying all the comments so keep them coming. Always interested in hearing anyones thoughts.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 16:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

never been really able to get into jazz at massey hall, prefer the Birdland '50 parker date, with Fats Navarro, Bud Powell, Art Blakey. sound is not awesome, but listenable, and captures Parker playing some of the most amazing stuff of his career. navarro was just a week or so away from dying, but he's incredible too. something off about the performance/sound quality of massey hall that puts me off. some cool stuff, but more of an "event" than a great show?

tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

the sgt peppers of jazz? ;)

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

tylerw OTM re: Massey Hall. Never heard of that Birdland date! Holy crap! Will check out, post-haste.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 29 August 2011 17:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah it's less famous because it's not (to my knowledge) ever been a standalone (might only be 30 minutes of music or so). but it's on a bud powell set I have on proper, and on another parker live set called chasin' the bird. really incredible recording.

tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's been def overhyped as greatest jazz concert ever, based on the big names. Interesting bit on Wiki - "...owing to a boxing prize fight between Rocky Marciano and Jersey Joe Walcott taking place simultaneouly, the audience was so small that the Society was unable to pay the musicians' fees."

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

TIE
149    Billy Cobham - Spectrum (1973 618 Points, 6 votes


http://open.spotify.com/album/5JmNk3ayVaujKO5hFvU5YA

149    Thelonious Monk - A Genius Of Modern Music (1947?)  618 points, 6 votes

http://open.spotify.com/album/07kblmHGjZ8KmwogxMDd4q

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

the playing on Spectrum is amazing. One for the rock fans - it features Tommy Bolin on guitar.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Spectrum has some nice moments, but man I can't stand the hard rock guitar riffs on it.

Tuomas, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

(x-post, hahaha!)

Tuomas, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

^ posts completely in character hahaha

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

148    j.j. johnson - proof positive  (1964)  619 Points, 7 votes

http://open.spotify.com/album/7dTSo2PZoS6W7aKny9I1hW

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

excellent album this.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

147    Miles Davis - Workin'  (1959) 620 Points, 7 votes

http://open.spotify.com/album/1vktIbBz606HKcMr6Cs6jw

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

I didn't vote for that Monk album only because my own lists start at 1949. Before that, LPs didn't exist. Those Monk sides were issued as 78s, and first issued as a compilation on a 10" LP in 1951, and expanded from 8 to 12 songs on 12" in 1956. This poll doesn't include comps does it?

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Workin is a must-hear even if you're not into 50s jazz so much - "trane's blues" is where the big guy comes into his own

excuse me you're a helluva guy (m coleman), Monday, 29 August 2011 17:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

that prestige box of the miles quintet is essssssential. sort of interesting -- not really similar to a lot of the stuff that was happening at the same time? at least to my ears. more delicate and deliberate than the blue note/hard bop stuff.

tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

This monk comp got in because people pleaded that it should be and that it wasn't a greatest hits style comp etc.

And Workin' is indeed great.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

"alabama" just came up on the spotify playlist, which is always a "stop you in your tracks" kind of song.

tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:46 (2 years ago) Permalink

lol followed up by an ad for mastodon's new album. #awkwardspotifysegues

tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

TIE
145    Art Blakey - Art Blakey's Jazz Messengers with Thelonious Monk (1958) 621 Points, 5 votes


http://open.spotify.com/album/3C2hpKCQ1C8l8F5sLAQHXe

145    Herbie Hancock - Mr. Hands (1980) 621 Points, 5 votes   

http://open.spotify.com/album/6RvJbmTWu2vW5XRubeZeTF

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

don't know that herbie album. Seems strangely high

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

me neither -- is it disco-y?
y'know, i've never been able to get too into that jazz messengers/monk record. i should give it another try. doesn't seem as strong as both of the principals' records from around the same time.

tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

mr. hands isn't disco-y at all, not really like the headhunters heavy funk era either. kinda like herbie stepped back from what he'd been doing, incorporated some world music vibes. nice.

i feel the same way about the jazz messengers/monk. not an audiophile by any means but i never thought it sounded that great (performances aside)

excuse me you're a helluva guy (m coleman), Monday, 29 August 2011 17:59 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah that might be one of the problems, monk's piano sounding kinda harsh?
i'll have to check out mr. hands.

tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 18:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's not that disco-y, except for "Just Around the Corner", which is an awesome piece of disco-funk-jazz. Most of it is actually pretty straightforward jazz, and it has Herbie at his most melodic, but his using a whole bunch of early-80s synths whose sound is of acquired taste. Personally, I love it! Also, it has one of the most wtf covers ever to grace an album by a mainstream recording artist.

Tuomas, Monday, 29 August 2011 18:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

(xx-post)

Tuomas, Monday, 29 August 2011 18:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

hee, yeah that cover is rad.

tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 18:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

144    Grant Green - Matador (1964) 624 Points, 6 votes

http://open.spotify.com/album/5eubtUqOh4fqfaZXA8Ha4X

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 18:13 (2 years ago) Permalink

Grant Green recorded so much high-quality music for Blue Note during the first half of the '60s that a number of excellent sessions went unissued at the time. Even so, it's still hard to figure out why 1964's Matador was only released in Japan in 1979, prior to its U.S. CD reissue in 1990 -- it's a classic and easily one of Green's finest albums. In contrast to the soul-jazz and jazz-funk for which Green is chiefly remembered, Matador is a cool-toned, straight-ahead modal workout that features some of Green's most advanced improvisation, even more so than his sessions with Larry Young. Part of the reason for that is that Green is really pushed by his stellar backing unit: pianist McCoy Tyner, bassist Bob Cranshaw, and drummer Elvin Jones. Not only is Green leading a group that features one-half of the classic Coltrane Quartet, but he even takes on Coltrane's groundbreaking arrangement of "My Favorite Things" -- and more than holds his own over ten-plus minutes. In fact, every track on the album is around that length; there are extended explorations of two Green originals ("Green Jeans" and the title track) and Duke Pearson's Middle Eastern-tinged "Bedouin," plus the bonus cut "Wives and Lovers," a swinging Bacharach pop tune not on the Japanese issue. The group interplay is consistently strong, but really the spotlight falls chiefly on Green, whose crystal-clear articulation flourishes in this setting. And, for all of Matador's advanced musicality, it ends up being surprisingly accessible. This sound may not be Green's claim to fame, but Matador remains one of his greatest achievements.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 18:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

this one is great - m favorite things works surprisingly well with guitar. doesn't hurt to have coltrane's band behind him of course.

tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 18:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

Just dropping in to say that this has been an amazing list so far. Lots of stuff that I know and love, but just as much that I haven't really listened to much, so I'm extra psyched that it is all going into Spotify. Thanks all!!!

Moodles, Monday, 29 August 2011 18:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

yeah spotify is making this a pleasure.

tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 18:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

thirded -- am really enjoying knowing that it is all there on spotify for those times when i have time to go through it

i drive a wood paneled station dragon (La Lechera), Monday, 29 August 2011 18:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

143    Freddie Hubbard - Sing Me A Song of Songmy (1971) 625 Points, 6 votes

http://open.spotify.com/album/6BZmB3e4cPEBkCX7nTVMpP

Dunno this album, but it gets 2 stars on AMG

This is a strange LP. Trumpeter Freddie Hubbard and his quintet (which consisted of tenor-saxophonist Junior Cook, pianist Kenny Barron, bassist Art Booth and drummer Louis Hayes) is joined by a chorus, a string orchestra, several reciters, an organist and a variety of processed sounds emanating from tapes. The thoughts expressed in the music (topical and anti-war messages) are quite sincere but the abstract sounds will only be enjoyed by a limited audience; jazz fans should look elsewhere.

I think,like MR. Hands, Tuomas nominated it.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 18:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

I remember tuomas playing a track from it in outloud and it was nice. That was the first I had heard of it, but it seems a few of you do. Will check it out later.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 18:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

142 Joe Henderson - In 'N Out (1964) 629 Points, 6 votes

http://open.spotify.com/album/4KI0kC5rANmc5YeXyNshDr

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 18:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

This is a really good album.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 18:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

wtf @ random hubbard album

thats gotta be from these dudes nominating harp jazz and sci fi record covers right

D-40, Monday, 29 August 2011 18:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's not an ilm poll without huge albums being left out completely,finishing low,some bizarrely low and some weird inclusions, is it?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 18:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

194 Freddie Hubbard - Hub-Tones (1962) 519 Points, 5 votes
143 Freddie Hubbard - Sing Me A Song of Songmy (1971) 625 Points, 6 votes

you guys are nuts placing that over Hub-Tones!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 18:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

141    Don Cherry - Brown Rice (1975)  633 Points, 6 votes

http://open.spotify.com/album/6r01XL7XUvSTK4p6M7bmbC

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 19:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

xxxp because harp jazz is not Real Jazz, right? o_O

The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Monday, 29 August 2011 19:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

I didn't nominate Songmy, but I voted for it. Probably not as "classic" as some other Hubbard albums, but it's unlike anything I've ever heard, and that counts for something. The intro alone is a brilliantly creepy piece of experimentalism, though I think we have to thank Ilhan Mimaroglu (the producer of the album) more than Hubbard for all the weirdness.

Tuomas, Monday, 29 August 2011 19:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

140    Charles Mingus - New Tijuana Moods (1957) 635 points, 5

http://open.spotify.com/album/4kaQvqgh3GVhDhV0OeNYIwvotes

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 19:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

you guys are nuts placing that over Hub-Tones!

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, August 29, 2011 1:58 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

and ready for freddie!!

D-40, Monday, 29 August 2011 19:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

it's not an ilm poll without huge albums being left out completely,finishing low,some bizarrely low and some weird inclusions, is it?

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, August 29, 2011 1:54 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

more like its not ilm without extra credit given to albums that are 'weird' in genre polls

D-40, Monday, 29 August 2011 19:18 (2 years ago) Permalink

tijuana moods is pretty wild -- the spoken stuff gets out there. liner notes are hilarious too, in usual mingus style.

tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 19:20 (2 years ago) Permalink

"ilm post-1945 jazz albums that do not feature anything weird poll"

Spectrist, Monday, 29 August 2011 19:21 (2 years ago) Permalink


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