but first she would have to grow an afro
― ۩ (crüt), Monday, 29 August 2011 15:25 (twelve years ago) link
I voted for the Ashby album, it has a nice groove. But yeah, it's arguably a bit out of place in this company.
― dubplates and monster munch (seandalai), Monday, 29 August 2011 15:25 (twelve years ago) link
Actually thought Dark Magus would place a little higher. Isn't the consensus that this is the best of his mid-70s live doubles?
― shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 29 August 2011 15:31 (twelve years ago) link
156 Cannonball Adderley - Mercy Mercy Mercy! (1966) 597 Points, 4 votes One #1http://img.maniadb.com/images/album/160/160334_1_f.jpghttp://open.spotify.com/album/6Utj0CAgAWsPLFCVfaqDnB
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 15:36 (twelve years ago) link
^^^such a sweet record, what a great band. the keyboards on this are all time. re: dark magus -- i dig it, it might be the record you'd recommend to Can fans or something, but it feels a little monochromatic to me overall, just bludgeoning you over and over. agharta and pangaea really show off what that band was capable of -- it wasn't all pounding, relentless stuff.
― tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 15:40 (twelve years ago) link
Isn't the consensus that this is the best of his mid-70s live doubles?
No, not at all. There is no real consensus, though most people tend to pick Agharta. I'm a big fan of DM, but it's as close to metal as Miles ever got. I also like In Concert from '72, which a lot of people find weird and off-putting and too spacey.
― that's not funny. (unperson), Monday, 29 August 2011 15:40 (twelve years ago) link
in concert is sort of the companion to on the corner right? or am i getting them mixed up.
― tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link
while we're on the topic, these '75 shows are worth your time! http://theultimatebootlegexperience2.blogspot.com/2011/08/miles-davis-1975-three-shows-live-in.html
― tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 15:46 (twelve years ago) link
― that's not funny. (unperson), Monday, August 29, 2011 11:40 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark
I think I assumed that because of how Robert Quine used to talk about it, and how Robert Palmer's RS obit mentioned it (but not Agharta or Pagaea) as a key document/turning point. Personally, I'm on the fence between it and Agharta, but like tylerw said, they serve different purposes.
― shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 29 August 2011 15:50 (twelve years ago) link
155 Miles Davis - Pangaea (1975) 598 Points, 6 voteshttp://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51h8n9d-0WL._SL500_AA300_.jpghttp://open.spotify.com/album/0lYz13Pd1IYa7kZVoTUlN4
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 15:52 (twelve years ago) link
ha, well there ya go. love this thing, such an experiential record. used to have a tape of it and it was the perfect soundtrack for driving around LA at night.
― tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 15:55 (twelve years ago) link
btw listening to the spotify playlist on random (or at least i've categorized it "by album"). great stuff! thx for putting it together.
― tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 16:01 (twelve years ago) link
154 Mahavishnu Orchestra - The Inner Mounting Flame (1971) 600 points, 7 voteshttp://www.progarchives.com/progressive_rock_discography_covers/649/cover_38361312112010.jpghttp://open.spotify.com/album/0chWLemqlI6G1GOEr1q1bz
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 16:04 (twelve years ago) link
Always thought this was ILM's fave MO album.
153 Hank Mobley - Workout (1961) 604 Points, 6 voteshttp://cover6.cduniverse.com/MuzeAudioArt/Large/05/611905.jpghttp://open.spotify.com/album/0ho5QwQEbCrcMdl3aecViv
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 16:15 (twelve years ago) link
Inner Mountain Flame is my fave, but only 70 on my ballot. Just so many dang albums.
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 29 August 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link
i don't think i've ever (knowingly) heard hank mobley, but that looks badass
― IT IS EXECUTION (Z S), Monday, 29 August 2011 16:22 (twelve years ago) link
plus it reminds me how much i want to purchase that Blue Note album covers book. whoever oversaw their design back then was badass. it was probably hank mobley
― IT IS EXECUTION (Z S), Monday, 29 August 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
yeah blue notes are beautiful. can't go wrong with mobley's late 50s-early 60s stuff. i assume soul station will show up pretty near the top? maybe not i don't know. but it's definitely one of the great hard bop records of all time.
― tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
152 stan getz and joao gilberto - getz/gilberto (1964) 607 Points, 5 voteshttp://www.jazz.com/assets/2007/12/10/gilberto.jpg?1197308631http://open.spotify.com/album/5p7LZlOPMvScCXw5M77xyV
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 16:29 (twelve years ago) link
Mobley's Soul Station is arguably THE hard bop/blue note epitome and surely Hank's finest moment
― excuse me you're a helluva guy (m coleman), Monday, 29 August 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link
hank mobley is brilliant and Soul Station is one of the greatest albums ever imo
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 16:39 (twelve years ago) link
151 Charlie Parker - Jazz at Massey Hall (1953) 612 Points, 7 voteshttp://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/511PVjD%2BrPL._SS500_.jpghttp://open.spotify.com/album/4dtxRpI4YLoLu5kAzht41r
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
whoa there's a book? want
― remembrance of schwings past (gbx), Monday, 29 August 2011 16:56 (twelve years ago) link
Aye, its a great looking book too.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Monday, 29 August 2011 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
Recap - 250-151
250 Thelonious Monk - Criss Cross (1963) 359 4249 Herbie Hancock - Blow-Up (1966) 364 3248 gil evans - out of the cool (1960) 365 3247 Clifford Brown and Max Roach at Basin Street (1956) 367 3246 Charles Mingus - Blues And Roots (1959) 369 4245 Sun Ra - Strange Strings (1966) 373 4243(tie)Sonny Sharrock - Guitar (1986) 376 2243(tie)243 Milford Graves - Babi (1977) 376 2242 Art Ensemble Of Chicago - Message To Our Folks (1969) 377 3240(tie)Peter Brötzmann - Nipples (1969) 377 4240(tie)Elvin Jones - Dear John C. (1965) 377 4239 Roland Kirk - Natural Black Inventions: Root Strata (1971) 380 2238 Sun Ra - Other Planes of There (1966) 381 3237 John Coltrane - Live at Birdland (1963) 384 4236 Herbie Hancock - Thrust (1974) 386 3235 Les McCann & Eddie Harris - Swiss Movement (1969) 387 3234 Derek Bailey - Ballads (2002) 387 5233 Max Roach - We Insist! Freedom Now Suite (1960) 394 4232 Roland Kirk - Blacknuss 398 (1972) 4231 Sun Ra - The Nubians Of Plutonia (1966) 402230 Bill Evans & Jim Hall - Undercurrent (1963) 412 4229 Bobby Hutcherson - San Francisco (1970) 413 3228 Miles Davis - Miles Davis Quartet (1954) 415 4227 Marion Brown Quartet - Marion Brown Quartet (19670 415 5226 Miles Davis - Miles Davis and the Modern Jazz Giants (1954-56) 417 4225 Grant Green - Street Of Dreams (1964) 422 4224 Wes Montgomery - The Incredible Jazz Guitar (1960) 431 4223 Archie Shepp - Yasmina, a black woman (1969) 432 4222 Eric Dolphy - Iron Man (1963) 436 4221 Ornette Coleman - Ornette! (1961) 436 5220 Bill Evans - Portrait In Jazz (1959) 440 3219 McCoy Tyner - Song of the New World (1973) 453 Points, 4 votes218 Baby Face Willette - Stop And Listen (1961) 457 (Points) 5 votes217 Pharoah Sanders - Summun Bukmun Umyun (1970) 458 Points, 5 votes216 Sun Ra - Lanquidity (1978) 460 Points, 3 votes215 Albert Ayler - Love Cry (1967) 461 Points, 6 votes214 Antonio Carlos Jobim - Stone Flower (1970) 465 Points, 3 votes213 Nina Simone - At Town Hall (1959) 470 Points, 4 votes212 Bobbi Humphrey - Blacks and Blues (1974) 473 Points, 6 Votes211 Evan Parker, Derek Bailey, Han Bennink - Topography of the Lungs (1970) 474 Points, 3 Votes210 John Coltrane/ Don Cherry - The Avant Garde (1960) 476 Points, 5 votes209 Jimmy Smith - Root Down (1972) 477 Points, 4 votes208 Albert Ayler - New grass (1969) 478 Points, 4 votes207 Pharoah Sanders - Izipho Zam (1969) 478 Points, 5 Votes206 Thelonious Monk and John Coltrane (1957) 479 Points, 3 votes205 Dizzy Gillespie - At Newport (1957) 501 Points, 4 votes204 Wayne Shorter - The Allseeing Eye (1965) 501 Points, 6 votes203 Alice Coltrane - Eternity (1976) 502 Points, 4 votes202 Cecil Taylor - Nefertiti (1962) 505 Points, 4 votes201 Jon Hassell/Brian Eno - Fourth World Vol. 1: Possible Musics (1990) 507 Points, 5 Votes
200 John Coltrane - Ballads (1962) 510 Points, 5 Votes199 Sarah Vaughan - Sarah Vaughan ( "Sarah Vaughan with Clifford Brown") (1954) 512 Points,4 Votes198 Sonny Rollins - The Cutting Edge (1974) 512 Points, 6 Votes197 Jimmy Smith - The Sermon (1958) 513 points, 4 Votes196 John Coltrane - Coltrane Plays The Blues (1962) 513 Points 5 votes195 Art Pepper - Art Pepper Meets the Rhythm Section (1957) 515 Points, 5 votes194 Freddie Hubbard - Hub-Tones (1962) 519 Points, 5 votes193 Eddie Henderson - Sunburst (1975) 519 Points, 7 votes192 Freddie Hubbard - Ready For Freddie (1961) 521 Points, 4 Votes191 Don Wilkerson - Elder Don (1962) 523 points, 5 votes190 Blue Mitchell - The Thing To Do (1964) 525 Points, 5 votesTIE188 John Coltrane - Traneing In (1958) 526 Points, 4 votes188 John Coltrane - Lush Life (1958) 526 Points, 4 votes187 Lou Donaldson - Blues Walk (1958) 528 points, 3 votes186 Andrew Hill - Compulsion (1965) 529 Points, 6 votes185 Art Blakey & the Jazz Messengers - A Night In Tunisia (1957) 530 Points, 5 votes184 Archie Shepp - On This Night (1966) 530 Points, 6 votes183 Jackie McLean - New And Old Gospel (1967) 534 Points, 6 votesTIE181 Alice Coltrane - World Galaxy (1972) 535 Points, 5 votes181 Albert Ayler - Bells (1965) 535 Points, 5 votes180 Jackie McLean - Let Freedom Ring (1962) 537 Points, 7 votes179 Miles Davis - My Funny Valentine (1965) 539 Points, 5 votes178 Wayne Shorter - Super Nova (1969) 540 Points, 5 votes177 Tony Williams - Lifetime (1964) 542 Points, 7 votes176 Archie Shepp - Attica Blues (1972) 545 Points, 6 votes175 Curtis Fuller - the opener (1957) 548 Points, 4 votes, One #1 vote174 Cannonball Adderley - Somethin' Else (1958) 548 Points, 5 votes173 Donald Byrd - places and spaces (1975) 550 Points, 5 votes172 Charles Mingus - The Clown (1957) 550 Points, 7 votesTIE170 Count Basie - The Atomic Mr Basie (1957) 553 Points, 5 votes170 Miles Davis - Seven Steps To Heaven (1963) 553 Points, 5 votes169 Sun Ra - Atlantis (1967) 554 Points, 7 votes168 Noah Howard - The Black Ark 558 6 votes167 Lee Morgan - Live At The Lighthouse (1970) 561 Points, 4 votes166 Pharoah Sanders - Journey to the One 561 Points, 5 votes165 Kenny Burrell - Midnight Blue (1963) 563 Points 5 votes164 Miles Davis - Walkin' (1954) 563 Points 6 votes163 Grant Green - Solid (1964) 564 Points, 6 votes162 Andrew Hill - Judgment! (1964) 578 Points, 5 votes161 Eric Dolphy - Out There (1960) 580 Points, 6 votes 160 Herbie Mann - Memphis underground (1969) 586 Points, 5 votesTie158 Dorothy Ashby - Afro Harping (1968) 592 Points, 6 votes158 Yusef Lateef - Eastern Sounds (1961) 592 Points, 6 votes157 Miles Davis - Dark Magus (1974) 595 Points, 6 votes156 Cannonball Adderley - Mercy Mercy Mercy! (1966) 597 Points, 4 votes One #1155 Miles Davis - Pangaea (1975) 598 Points, 6 votes154 Mahavishnu Orchestra - The Inner Mounting Flame (1971) 600 points, 7 votes153 Hank Mobley - Workout (1961) 604 Points, 6 votes152 stan getz and joao gilberto - getz/gilberto (1964) 607 Points, 5 votes151 Charlie Parker - Jazz at Massey Hall (1953) 612 Points, 7 votes
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
Hope everyone is enjoying the poll so far. Enjoying all the comments so keep them coming. Always interested in hearing anyones thoughts.
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 16:59 (twelve years ago) link
never been really able to get into jazz at massey hall, prefer the Birdland '50 parker date, with Fats Navarro, Bud Powell, Art Blakey. sound is not awesome, but listenable, and captures Parker playing some of the most amazing stuff of his career. navarro was just a week or so away from dying, but he's incredible too. something off about the performance/sound quality of massey hall that puts me off. some cool stuff, but more of an "event" than a great show?
― tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:02 (twelve years ago) link
the sgt peppers of jazz? ;)
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:03 (twelve years ago) link
tylerw OTM re: Massey Hall. Never heard of that Birdland date! Holy crap! Will check out, post-haste.
― shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 29 August 2011 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
yeah it's less famous because it's not (to my knowledge) ever been a standalone (might only be 30 minutes of music or so). but it's on a bud powell set I have on proper, and on another parker live set called chasin' the bird. really incredible recording.
― tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
It's been def overhyped as greatest jazz concert ever, based on the big names. Interesting bit on Wiki - "...owing to a boxing prize fight between Rocky Marciano and Jersey Joe Walcott taking place simultaneouly, the audience was so small that the Society was unable to pay the musicians' fees."
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
TIE149 Billy Cobham - Spectrum (1973 618 Points, 6 voteshttp://www.progreviews.com/reviews/images/BC-Spec.jpghttp://open.spotify.com/album/5JmNk3ayVaujKO5hFvU5YA
149 Thelonious Monk - A Genius Of Modern Music (1947?) 618 points, 6 voteshttp://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51vIdq12StL._SL500_AA300_.jpghttp://open.spotify.com/album/07kblmHGjZ8KmwogxMDd4q
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:13 (twelve years ago) link
the playing on Spectrum is amazing. One for the rock fans - it features Tommy Bolin on guitar.
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:14 (twelve years ago) link
Spectrum has some nice moments, but man I can't stand the hard rock guitar riffs on it.
― Tuomas, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:15 (twelve years ago) link
(x-post, hahaha!)
― Tuomas, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:16 (twelve years ago) link
^ posts completely in character hahaha
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
148 j.j. johnson - proof positive (1964) 619 Points, 7 voteshttp://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41QJ5BWZ2RL._SL500_AA300_.jpghttp://open.spotify.com/album/7dTSo2PZoS6W7aKny9I1hW
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:24 (twelve years ago) link
excellent album this.
147 Miles Davis - Workin' (1959) 620 Points, 7 voteshttp://cache2.allpostersimages.com/p/LRG/21/2183/21PCD00Z/posters/miles-davis-workin-with-the-miles-davis-quintet.jpghttp://open.spotify.com/album/1vktIbBz606HKcMr6Cs6jw
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:36 (twelve years ago) link
I didn't vote for that Monk album only because my own lists start at 1949. Before that, LPs didn't exist. Those Monk sides were issued as 78s, and first issued as a compilation on a 10" LP in 1951, and expanded from 8 to 12 songs on 12" in 1956. This poll doesn't include comps does it?
― Fastnbulbous, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:40 (twelve years ago) link
Workin is a must-hear even if you're not into 50s jazz so much - "trane's blues" is where the big guy comes into his own
― excuse me you're a helluva guy (m coleman), Monday, 29 August 2011 17:41 (twelve years ago) link
that prestige box of the miles quintet is essssssential. sort of interesting -- not really similar to a lot of the stuff that was happening at the same time? at least to my ears. more delicate and deliberate than the blue note/hard bop stuff.
― tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
This monk comp got in because people pleaded that it should be and that it wasn't a greatest hits style comp etc.
And Workin' is indeed great.
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
"alabama" just came up on the spotify playlist, which is always a "stop you in your tracks" kind of song.
― tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:46 (twelve years ago) link
lol followed up by an ad for mastodon's new album. #awkwardspotifysegues
― tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:50 (twelve years ago) link
TIE145 Art Blakey - Art Blakey's Jazz Messengers with Thelonious Monk (1958) 621 Points, 5 voteshttp://jazzismylife.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/cover31.jpghttp://open.spotify.com/album/3C2hpKCQ1C8l8F5sLAQHXe
145 Herbie Hancock - Mr. Hands (1980) 621 Points, 5 votes http://www.amiright.com/album-cover-themes/images/album-Herbie-Hancock-Mr-Hands.jpghttp://open.spotify.com/album/6RvJbmTWu2vW5XRubeZeTF
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:50 (twelve years ago) link
don't know that herbie album. Seems strangely high
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:51 (twelve years ago) link
me neither -- is it disco-y? y'know, i've never been able to get too into that jazz messengers/monk record. i should give it another try. doesn't seem as strong as both of the principals' records from around the same time.
― tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:55 (twelve years ago) link
mr. hands isn't disco-y at all, not really like the headhunters heavy funk era either. kinda like herbie stepped back from what he'd been doing, incorporated some world music vibes. nice.
i feel the same way about the jazz messengers/monk. not an audiophile by any means but i never thought it sounded that great (performances aside)
― excuse me you're a helluva guy (m coleman), Monday, 29 August 2011 17:59 (twelve years ago) link