JAZZ IS LIKE HEROIN TO ME ! ! ! ~~~~ ILM POST-1945 JAZZ ALBUMS POLL - THE RESULTS COUNTDOWN (now counting top 25!)

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157 Miles Davis - Dark Magus (1974) 595 Points, 6 votes

http://open.spotify.com/album/0oNoEAy0RMBOqwRYtkhKRb

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 15:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

dunno, aside from a few trax, i thought that doroth ashby record was a little disappointing. not sure what i was expecting. it's cool, but most of the records below it are better!

tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 15:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

if she actually played harp with her afro, that would be something

۩ (crüt), Monday, 29 August 2011 15:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

but first she would have to grow an afro

۩ (crüt), Monday, 29 August 2011 15:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

I voted for the Ashby album, it has a nice groove. But yeah, it's arguably a bit out of place in this company.

dubplates and monster munch (seandalai), Monday, 29 August 2011 15:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

Actually thought Dark Magus would place a little higher. Isn't the consensus that this is the best of his mid-70s live doubles?

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 29 August 2011 15:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

156    Cannonball Adderley - Mercy Mercy Mercy! (1966) 597 Points, 4 votes   One #1

http://open.spotify.com/album/6Utj0CAgAWsPLFCVfaqDnB

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 15:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

^^^such a sweet record, what a great band. the keyboards on this are all time.
re: dark magus -- i dig it, it might be the record you'd recommend to Can fans or something, but it feels a little monochromatic to me overall, just bludgeoning you over and over. agharta and pangaea really show off what that band was capable of -- it wasn't all pounding, relentless stuff.

tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 15:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

Isn't the consensus that this is the best of his mid-70s live doubles?

No, not at all. There is no real consensus, though most people tend to pick Agharta. I'm a big fan of DM, but it's as close to metal as Miles ever got. I also like In Concert from '72, which a lot of people find weird and off-putting and too spacey.

that's not funny. (unperson), Monday, 29 August 2011 15:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

in concert is sort of the companion to on the corner right? or am i getting them mixed up.

tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 15:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

while we're on the topic, these '75 shows are worth your time! http://theultimatebootlegexperience2.blogspot.com/2011/08/miles-davis-1975-three-shows-live-in.html

tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 15:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

No, not at all. There is no real consensus, though most people tend to pick Agharta. I'm a big fan of DM, but it's as close to metal as Miles ever got. I also like In Concert from '72, which a lot of people find weird and off-putting and too spacey.

― that's not funny. (unperson), Monday, August 29, 2011 11:40 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark

I think I assumed that because of how Robert Quine used to talk about it, and how Robert Palmer's RS obit mentioned it (but not Agharta or Pagaea) as a key document/turning point. Personally, I'm on the fence between it and Agharta, but like tylerw said, they serve different purposes.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 29 August 2011 15:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

155    Miles Davis - Pangaea (1975) 598 Points, 6 votes

http://open.spotify.com/album/0lYz13Pd1IYa7kZVoTUlN4

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 15:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

ha, well there ya go. love this thing, such an experiential record. used to have a tape of it and it was the perfect soundtrack for driving around LA at night.

tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 15:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

btw listening to the spotify playlist on random (or at least i've categorized it "by album"). great stuff! thx for putting it together.

tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 16:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

154    Mahavishnu Orchestra - The Inner Mounting Flame  (1971)  600 points, 7 votes

http://open.spotify.com/album/0chWLemqlI6G1GOEr1q1bz

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 16:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

Always thought this was ILM's fave MO album.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 16:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

153 Hank Mobley - Workout (1961) 604 Points, 6 votes

http://open.spotify.com/album/0ho5QwQEbCrcMdl3aecViv

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 16:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

Inner Mountain Flame is my fave, but only 70 on my ballot. Just so many dang albums.

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 29 August 2011 16:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

i don't think i've ever (knowingly) heard hank mobley, but that looks badass

IT IS EXECUTION (Z S), Monday, 29 August 2011 16:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

plus it reminds me how much i want to purchase that Blue Note album covers book. whoever oversaw their design back then was badass. it was probably hank mobley

IT IS EXECUTION (Z S), Monday, 29 August 2011 16:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah blue notes are beautiful.
can't go wrong with mobley's late 50s-early 60s stuff. i assume soul station will show up pretty near the top? maybe not i don't know. but it's definitely one of the great hard bop records of all time.

tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 16:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

152    stan getz and joao gilberto - getz/gilberto (1964) 607 Points, 5 votes

http://open.spotify.com/album/5p7LZlOPMvScCXw5M77xyV

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 16:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

Mobley's Soul Station is arguably THE hard bop/blue note epitome and surely Hank's finest moment

excuse me you're a helluva guy (m coleman), Monday, 29 August 2011 16:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

hank mobley is brilliant and Soul Station is one of the greatest albums ever imo

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 16:39 (3 years ago) Permalink

151    Charlie Parker - Jazz at Massey Hall (1953)  612 Points, 7 votes

http://open.spotify.com/album/4dtxRpI4YLoLu5kAzht41r

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 16:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

plus it reminds me how much i want to purchase that Blue Note album covers book. whoever oversaw their design back then was badass. it was probably hank mobley

whoa there's a book? want

remembrance of schwings past (gbx), Monday, 29 August 2011 16:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

Aye, its a great looking book too.

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Monday, 29 August 2011 16:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

Recap - 250-151

250 Thelonious Monk - Criss Cross (1963) 359 4
249 Herbie Hancock - Blow-Up (1966) 364 3
248 gil evans - out of the cool (1960) 365 3
247 Clifford Brown and Max Roach at Basin Street (1956) 367 3
246 Charles Mingus - Blues And Roots (1959) 369 4
245 Sun Ra - Strange Strings (1966) 373 4
243(tie)Sonny Sharrock - Guitar (1986) 376 2
243(tie)243 Milford Graves - Babi (1977) 376 2
242 Art Ensemble Of Chicago - Message To Our Folks (1969) 377 3
240(tie)Peter Brötzmann - Nipples (1969) 377 4
240(tie)Elvin Jones - Dear John C. (1965) 377 4
239 Roland Kirk - Natural Black Inventions: Root Strata (1971) 380 2
238 Sun Ra - Other Planes of There (1966) 381 3
237 John Coltrane - Live at Birdland (1963) 384 4
236 Herbie Hancock - Thrust (1974) 386 3
235 Les McCann & Eddie Harris - Swiss Movement (1969) 387 3
234 Derek Bailey - Ballads (2002) 387 5
233 Max Roach - We Insist! Freedom Now Suite (1960) 394 4
232 Roland Kirk - Blacknuss 398 (1972) 4
231 Sun Ra - The Nubians Of Plutonia (1966) 402
230 Bill Evans & Jim Hall - Undercurrent (1963) 412 4
229 Bobby Hutcherson - San Francisco (1970) 413 3
228 Miles Davis - Miles Davis Quartet (1954) 415 4
227 Marion Brown Quartet - Marion Brown Quartet (19670 415 5
226 Miles Davis - Miles Davis and the Modern Jazz Giants (1954-56) 417 4
225 Grant Green - Street Of Dreams (1964) 422 4
224 Wes Montgomery - The Incredible Jazz Guitar (1960) 431 4
223 Archie Shepp - Yasmina, a black woman (1969) 432 4
222 Eric Dolphy - Iron Man (1963) 436 4
221 Ornette Coleman - Ornette! (1961) 436 5
220 Bill Evans - Portrait In Jazz (1959) 440 3
219 McCoy Tyner - Song of the New World (1973) 453 Points, 4 votes
218 Baby Face Willette - Stop And Listen (1961) 457 (Points) 5 votes
217 Pharoah Sanders - Summun Bukmun Umyun (1970) 458 Points, 5 votes
216 Sun Ra - Lanquidity (1978) 460 Points, 3 votes
215 Albert Ayler - Love Cry (1967) 461 Points, 6 votes
214 Antonio Carlos Jobim - Stone Flower (1970) 465 Points, 3 votes
213 Nina Simone - At Town Hall (1959) 470 Points, 4 votes
212 Bobbi Humphrey - Blacks and Blues (1974) 473 Points, 6 Votes
211 Evan Parker, Derek Bailey, Han Bennink - Topography of the Lungs (1970) 474 Points, 3 Votes
210 John Coltrane/ Don Cherry - The Avant Garde (1960) 476 Points, 5 votes
209 Jimmy Smith - Root Down (1972) 477 Points, 4 votes
208 Albert Ayler - New grass (1969) 478 Points, 4 votes
207 Pharoah Sanders - Izipho Zam (1969) 478 Points, 5 Votes
206 Thelonious Monk and John Coltrane (1957) 479 Points, 3 votes
205 Dizzy Gillespie - At Newport (1957) 501 Points, 4 votes
204 Wayne Shorter - The Allseeing Eye (1965) 501 Points, 6 votes
203 Alice Coltrane - Eternity (1976) 502 Points, 4 votes
202 Cecil Taylor - Nefertiti (1962) 505 Points, 4 votes
201 Jon Hassell/Brian Eno - Fourth World Vol. 1: Possible Musics (1990) 507 Points, 5 Votes

200 John Coltrane - Ballads (1962) 510 Points, 5 Votes
199 Sarah Vaughan - Sarah Vaughan ( "Sarah Vaughan with Clifford Brown") (1954) 512 Points,4 Votes
198 Sonny Rollins - The Cutting Edge (1974) 512 Points, 6 Votes
197 Jimmy Smith - The Sermon (1958) 513 points, 4 Votes
196 John Coltrane - Coltrane Plays The Blues (1962) 513 Points 5 votes
195 Art Pepper - Art Pepper Meets the Rhythm Section (1957) 515 Points, 5 votes
194 Freddie Hubbard - Hub-Tones (1962) 519 Points, 5 votes
193 Eddie Henderson - Sunburst (1975) 519 Points, 7 votes
192 Freddie Hubbard - Ready For Freddie (1961) 521 Points, 4 Votes
191 Don Wilkerson - Elder Don (1962) 523 points, 5 votes
190 Blue Mitchell - The Thing To Do (1964) 525 Points, 5 votes
TIE
188 John Coltrane - Traneing In (1958) 526 Points, 4 votes
188 John Coltrane - Lush Life (1958) 526 Points, 4 votes
187 Lou Donaldson - Blues Walk (1958) 528 points, 3 votes
186 Andrew Hill - Compulsion (1965) 529 Points, 6 votes
185 Art Blakey & the Jazz Messengers - A Night In Tunisia (1957) 530 Points, 5 votes
184 Archie Shepp - On This Night (1966) 530 Points, 6 votes
183 Jackie McLean - New And Old Gospel (1967) 534 Points, 6 votes
TIE
181 Alice Coltrane - World Galaxy (1972) 535 Points, 5 votes
181 Albert Ayler - Bells (1965) 535 Points, 5 votes
180 Jackie McLean - Let Freedom Ring (1962) 537 Points, 7 votes
179 Miles Davis - My Funny Valentine (1965) 539 Points, 5 votes
178 Wayne Shorter - Super Nova (1969) 540 Points, 5 votes
177 Tony Williams - Lifetime (1964) 542 Points, 7 votes
176 Archie Shepp - Attica Blues (1972) 545 Points, 6 votes
175 Curtis Fuller - the opener (1957) 548 Points, 4 votes, One #1 vote
174 Cannonball Adderley - Somethin' Else (1958) 548 Points, 5 votes
173 Donald Byrd - places and spaces (1975) 550 Points, 5 votes
172 Charles Mingus - The Clown (1957) 550 Points, 7 votes
TIE
170 Count Basie - The Atomic Mr Basie (1957) 553 Points, 5 votes
170 Miles Davis - Seven Steps To Heaven (1963) 553 Points, 5 votes
169 Sun Ra - Atlantis (1967) 554 Points, 7 votes
168 Noah Howard - The Black Ark 558 6 votes
167 Lee Morgan - Live At The Lighthouse (1970) 561 Points, 4 votes
166 Pharoah Sanders - Journey to the One 561 Points, 5 votes
165 Kenny Burrell - Midnight Blue (1963) 563 Points 5 votes
164 Miles Davis - Walkin' (1954) 563 Points 6 votes
163 Grant Green - Solid (1964) 564 Points, 6 votes
162 Andrew Hill - Judgment! (1964) 578 Points, 5 votes
161 Eric Dolphy - Out There (1960) 580 Points, 6 votes
160 Herbie Mann - Memphis underground (1969) 586 Points, 5 votes
Tie
158 Dorothy Ashby - Afro Harping (1968) 592 Points, 6 votes
158 Yusef Lateef - Eastern Sounds (1961) 592 Points, 6 votes
157 Miles Davis - Dark Magus (1974) 595 Points, 6 votes
156 Cannonball Adderley - Mercy Mercy Mercy! (1966) 597 Points, 4 votes One #1
155 Miles Davis - Pangaea (1975) 598 Points, 6 votes
154 Mahavishnu Orchestra - The Inner Mounting Flame (1971) 600 points, 7 votes
153 Hank Mobley - Workout (1961) 604 Points, 6 votes
152 stan getz and joao gilberto - getz/gilberto (1964) 607 Points, 5 votes
151 Charlie Parker - Jazz at Massey Hall (1953) 612 Points, 7 votes

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 16:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

Hope everyone is enjoying the poll so far. Enjoying all the comments so keep them coming. Always interested in hearing anyones thoughts.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 16:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

never been really able to get into jazz at massey hall, prefer the Birdland '50 parker date, with Fats Navarro, Bud Powell, Art Blakey. sound is not awesome, but listenable, and captures Parker playing some of the most amazing stuff of his career. navarro was just a week or so away from dying, but he's incredible too. something off about the performance/sound quality of massey hall that puts me off. some cool stuff, but more of an "event" than a great show?

tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:02 (3 years ago) Permalink

the sgt peppers of jazz? ;)

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

tylerw OTM re: Massey Hall. Never heard of that Birdland date! Holy crap! Will check out, post-haste.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 29 August 2011 17:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah it's less famous because it's not (to my knowledge) ever been a standalone (might only be 30 minutes of music or so). but it's on a bud powell set I have on proper, and on another parker live set called chasin' the bird. really incredible recording.

tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

It's been def overhyped as greatest jazz concert ever, based on the big names. Interesting bit on Wiki - "...owing to a boxing prize fight between Rocky Marciano and Jersey Joe Walcott taking place simultaneouly, the audience was so small that the Society was unable to pay the musicians' fees."

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

TIE
149    Billy Cobham - Spectrum (1973 618 Points, 6 votes


http://open.spotify.com/album/5JmNk3ayVaujKO5hFvU5YA

149    Thelonious Monk - A Genius Of Modern Music (1947?)  618 points, 6 votes

http://open.spotify.com/album/07kblmHGjZ8KmwogxMDd4q

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

the playing on Spectrum is amazing. One for the rock fans - it features Tommy Bolin on guitar.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

Spectrum has some nice moments, but man I can't stand the hard rock guitar riffs on it.

Tuomas, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

(x-post, hahaha!)

Tuomas, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

^ posts completely in character hahaha

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

148    j.j. johnson - proof positive  (1964)  619 Points, 7 votes

http://open.spotify.com/album/7dTSo2PZoS6W7aKny9I1hW

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

excellent album this.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

147    Miles Davis - Workin'  (1959) 620 Points, 7 votes

http://open.spotify.com/album/1vktIbBz606HKcMr6Cs6jw

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

I didn't vote for that Monk album only because my own lists start at 1949. Before that, LPs didn't exist. Those Monk sides were issued as 78s, and first issued as a compilation on a 10" LP in 1951, and expanded from 8 to 12 songs on 12" in 1956. This poll doesn't include comps does it?

Fastnbulbous, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

Workin is a must-hear even if you're not into 50s jazz so much - "trane's blues" is where the big guy comes into his own

excuse me you're a helluva guy (m coleman), Monday, 29 August 2011 17:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

that prestige box of the miles quintet is essssssential. sort of interesting -- not really similar to a lot of the stuff that was happening at the same time? at least to my ears. more delicate and deliberate than the blue note/hard bop stuff.

tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

This monk comp got in because people pleaded that it should be and that it wasn't a greatest hits style comp etc.

And Workin' is indeed great.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

"alabama" just came up on the spotify playlist, which is always a "stop you in your tracks" kind of song.

tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

lol followed up by an ad for mastodon's new album. #awkwardspotifysegues

tylerw, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

TIE
145    Art Blakey - Art Blakey's Jazz Messengers with Thelonious Monk (1958) 621 Points, 5 votes


http://open.spotify.com/album/3C2hpKCQ1C8l8F5sLAQHXe

145    Herbie Hancock - Mr. Hands (1980) 621 Points, 5 votes   

http://open.spotify.com/album/6RvJbmTWu2vW5XRubeZeTF

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Monday, 29 August 2011 17:50 (3 years ago) Permalink


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