australia what minstrel shows we didn't have 'em here we go again
― he's the deej, i'm the hipster (kkvgz), Monday, 29 August 2011 09:23 (twelve years ago) link
Look I cant and wont defend the fact blackface is clearly offensive, but I have to stress it isnt a cultural thing/known about down here. It just isnt. People do not get it. You should see the comments on this issue on newspaper sites here. its like 80% "this wasnt offensive I dont understand why people are upset" comments, even in the left wing papers.
Beyond that I'm not eqipped to argue this issue, tbh (and again, I'm also not defending it either as I fully understand why it is regarded as wrong - but only because of americans telling people tbh!)
― Silent Hedgehogs (Trayce), Monday, 29 August 2011 09:29 (twelve years ago) link
Trayce, I don't believe that washes anymore. Since the Jackson Jive incident, it's been overwhelmingly clear to the whole of Australia (a) that blackface is not acceptable and (b) why blackface is not acceptable. These guys weren't even doing a vaguely accurate impression of the bloke, they're in shoe polish and fright wigs ffs.
I'm not attacking you at all Trayce, but these guys and Qantas should have known better, and "oh I'm sorry I didn't realise" is not good enough an excuse.
― Autumn Almanac, Monday, 29 August 2011 09:41 (twelve years ago) link
bntw lack of malicious intent is also off the point because blackface is inherently racist by dint of what it is. It's like, you wouldn't dress up as a paralympian by sitting behind bars in a monkey suit with a "SEE THE ONE-LEGGED FREAK" sign over your head.
― Autumn Almanac, Monday, 29 August 2011 09:43 (twelve years ago) link
Oh dont get me wrong - Qantas should DEFINITELY have known better. The minute anyone picked that guy's proposal as the winner, PR should have said "oh my god no, this is such a bad idea".
I think australians are very resistant to being told how to think/to PC, and I'm not sure what to think about that really.
― Silent Hedgehogs (Trayce), Monday, 29 August 2011 09:44 (twelve years ago) link
(apart from "this is so embarrasing", obv)
― Silent Hedgehogs (Trayce), Monday, 29 August 2011 09:46 (twelve years ago) link
so even aussies don't cogh? ;_; The Australian Zeitgeist Tracking Thread
― zvookster, Monday, 29 August 2011 09:47 (twelve years ago) link
FWIW also: "you wouldn't dress up as a paralympian by sitting behind bars in a monkey suit with a "SEE THE ONE-LEGGED FREAK" sign over your head."
I suspect some people here really would, and would vehemently defend their right to sick humour, as well.
― Silent Hedgehogs (Trayce), Monday, 29 August 2011 09:49 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah you're right, they would (and they'd be slammed).
― Autumn Almanac, Monday, 29 August 2011 09:54 (twelve years ago) link
but I have to stress it isnt a cultural thing/known about down here. It just isnt.
I've grown up knowing that blackface is weird and gross and retrograde
― rude ragga beats from the F. U. Schnickens (sic), Monday, 29 August 2011 10:06 (twelve years ago) link
SHOE POLISH
― (gr8080), Monday, 29 August 2011 10:11 (twelve years ago) link
I havent, I'm ok with being honest about that. Its something I have only learned later in life. And I do remember the B&W Minstrel show and those terrible Goodies skits and etc.
― Silent Hedgehogs (Trayce), Monday, 29 August 2011 10:22 (twelve years ago) link
But, now having read back over the frogbs shitstorm upthread I hadnt seen before this got revived I feel icky.
― Silent Hedgehogs (Trayce), Monday, 29 August 2011 10:23 (twelve years ago) link
I don't want to sow more ill will between America and Australia. I mean, it's like when Tiger Woods called himself a spaz and Britain got all upset about it because over there spasticism is a physical disability or something and then we were all like "what? fuck you. we're not gonna stop saying spaz."
― he's the deej, i'm the hipster (kkvgz), Monday, 29 August 2011 12:48 (twelve years ago) link
we just all have to learn to live together in this increasingly smaller world.
now I am intensely curious about what Canada's sensitivity blind spot is
― now I have to imagine your penis (DJP), Monday, 29 August 2011 13:14 (twelve years ago) link
Probably something to do with the Queen
― Do not go gentle into that good frogbs (silby), Monday, 29 August 2011 14:17 (twelve years ago) link
iirc its the montreal wanting to become its own country thing
― D-40, Monday, 29 August 2011 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
I just got an email from an all white band called BLACK PUSSY
― step your 'îron game up, jamie xx (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 29 August 2011 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
they are not sweet
I feel like the acronym "smdh" was invented specifically for ppl like that
― now I have to imagine your penis (DJP), Monday, 29 August 2011 19:58 (twelve years ago) link
― step your 'îron game up, jamie xx (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, August 29, 2011 7:54 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark
lol
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Monday, 29 August 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
whoa when did the eagles sign brian austin green
― max, Monday, 29 August 2011 20:36 (twelve years ago) link
is it inherently racist to call your white band 'black pussy' though?
Is it?
― Juata Man (darraghmac), Monday, 29 August 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
It's sort of like what jon stewart said during the "macaca" incident
"we don't know what it means but it sure as hell *sounds* racist"
― Do not go gentle into that good frogbs (silby), Monday, 29 August 2011 20:42 (twelve years ago) link
Tiger also did a spaz mime that clearly indicated he knew all about the "British" meaning.
We had a thread about it - (Don't) Putting Spaz
― Frimpong iddle I po (onimo), Monday, 29 August 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link
On a livejournal comm I read, some people are incredibly strident about all kinds of words as "abelist" speaking of which. I saw someone get told off the other day for calling someone "dumb", I wish I was joking.
― Silent Hedgehogs (Trayce), Monday, 29 August 2011 23:28 (twelve years ago) link
holy shit. i just googled up the original pic with his stance
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/golf/04/13/tiger.comments/p1_tigerputt.jpg
and then i googled up some youtubes of people with cerebral palsy and goddamn if some of them didn't stand like that. but how would tiger know? i still find it hard to believe that it was an intentional jab at people with cp. it just seems too weird that he would use that word to that end.
― kkvgz, Monday, 29 August 2011 23:30 (twelve years ago) link
but then fuck that is an incredibly exaggerated stance.
It's a fine line if you're just dicking around (no offence meant to dicks btw) and stick your legs out weirdly because it feels outlandish, but I suppose if he followed up with "I'm a spazmo" or whatever that doesn't leave a great deal of doubt. Overall he should have known what would happen.
― Autumn Almanac, Monday, 29 August 2011 23:35 (twelve years ago) link
"ANYONE that says this is Racist. Is a racist"
"If aboriginal dancers paint there faces white (which they do!!), isn't that the same?"
from https://twitter.com/#!/heraldsunreader
― rude ragga beats from the F. U. Schnickens (sic), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 00:09 (twelve years ago) link
For the int'l audience, Herald Sun is a Murdoch tabloid (as if that weren't obvious already).
― Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 00:22 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah dreggiest dregs there, about on par with the Sun.
― Silent Hedgehogs (Trayce), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 00:30 (twelve years ago) link
I wonder where these people exist tho because frankly, I dont personally know ANYONE who'd say something as dumb as "aboriginal dancers paniting their faces white is the same isnt it".
― Silent Hedgehogs (Trayce), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 00:31 (twelve years ago) link
I'm related to some of them.
― Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 00:36 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah ok maybe my dad would say it, but mostly cos he's a grumpy shit stirrer.
― Silent Hedgehogs (Trayce), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 00:39 (twelve years ago) link
^^^ was about to post almost the exact same word-for-word thing!
― kinder, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 00:41 (twelve years ago) link
about my dad not yours, that is
― kinder, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 00:42 (twelve years ago) link
They would say it out of entitlement and cultural ignorance. Remember how many people there are who think "white aborigines" are faking it for land rights.
― Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 00:45 (twelve years ago) link
e.g. "bullshit, he's got red hair"
― Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 00:46 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRZmVMO1Rd8&feature=player_embedded
― thick-necked and hateful (latebloomer), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 01:13 (twelve years ago) link
actually lol'd at how bad that is
― rockapads, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 03:43 (twelve years ago) link
Hahahah whaaaat, thats the NEW deus ex? That looks like some shitty mid 90s animation :/
Also lol I misread the action tree as "offer hot beef".
― Silent Hedgehogs (Trayce), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 04:00 (twelve years ago) link
how about when white blonde coworkers come back from a third world countries with pictures of themselves surrounded by laughing naked children?
― mr peabody (moonship journey to baja), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 04:24 (twelve years ago) link
is that just what's done on safari?
Well, sheeyit!
― ۩ (crüt), Tuesday, 30 August 2011 08:14 (twelve years ago) link
http://thejewtangclan.com/http://i.imgur.com/6rjBx.jpg
― (gr8080), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 03:58 (twelve years ago) link
Well, I suppose it would be in poor taste for them to request white kids instead.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:00 (twelve years ago) link
poll
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― iatee, Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:01 (twelve years ago) link
such original puns
― delmar dillinger (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 31 August 2011 04:03 (twelve years ago) link