JAZZ IS LIKE HEROIN TO ME ! ! ! ~~~~ ILM POST-1945 JAZZ ALBUMS POLL - THE RESULTS COUNTDOWN (now counting top 25!)

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Always meant to check Milford Graves out, shame it's not on Spotify.

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Saturday, August 27, 2011 2:54 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

I can't recommend Babi enough. If there is a single, definitive "energy music" record, it's this one.

― shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, August 27, 2011 1:46 PM (1 hour ago)

I dl'ed this on your recommendation a while back, and it is, indeed, "all that" ... also, I totally do not pay attention to deadlines for ballot polls

sarahel, Saturday, 27 August 2011 22:36 (twelve years ago) link

233 Max Roach - We Insist! Freedom Now Suite (1960) 394 points, 4 votes

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Saturday, August 27, 2011 5:31 PM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

dunno this one. Anyone?

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Saturday, August 27, 2011 5:40 PM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

thats a great record but i havent heard it in a long time

― D-40, Saturday, August 27, 2011 5:46 PM (31 minutes ago)


Another one I voted for without knowing too well. So what can you I say: you know the scene in the movie, Funny Face, say, where the characters dress up as beatniks and go in the avant-garde cafe and there are some artistes playing some quirky jazz and declaiming some poetry? Well this is what that would sound like if the music and words were provided by first-rate jazz talents like Max Roach and Abbey Lincoln and, looking at the album cover, Coleman Hawkins! Babatunde Olatunji!- and the lyrics were about something real. Well, that was my first impression when I heard it on the radio anyway.

Don't ask for the steening, ask for the HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 August 2011 22:39 (twelve years ago) link

sweet poll so far, like all these records. ballads is really really pretty.

sonderangerbot, Saturday, 27 August 2011 22:46 (twelve years ago) link

glad you're enjoying it.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Saturday, 27 August 2011 22:48 (twelve years ago) link

229    Bobby Hutcherson - San Francisco (1971) 413 Points, 3 votes
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_G9FtQLF2VFE/SzJB-H3KhvI/AAAAAAAAAqs/3hHrFG2aCaE/s400/front.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/4iWJYzYbD0S6e3I8Xzr7LR

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Saturday, 27 August 2011 22:51 (twelve years ago) link

good album btw

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Saturday, 27 August 2011 23:11 (twelve years ago) link

might have voted for blacknuss, i remember old rugged cross as amazing

should pick up ballads, i like some free improv & bailey's 1992 tv series on (mostly non-swinging) improvised music is gr8 http://www.ubu.com/film/bailey.html

the sun ra i know is ok but i love mingus and hardly think he can be overrated tbh, tho i own one record each of duke and bird, both comps, so what does that tell u

zvookster, Saturday, 27 August 2011 23:13 (twelve years ago) link

228    Miles Davis - Miles Davis Quartet (1954)   415 Points, 4 Votes
http://991.com/newGallery/Miles-Davis-Miles-Davis-Quart-457137.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/6wjxLxMqbDzTT5QlYrtOPI

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Saturday, 27 August 2011 23:16 (twelve years ago) link

There will prob be a lot of Miles albums on this list if that made it, ha

D-40, Saturday, 27 August 2011 23:22 (twelve years ago) link

who will get the most entries, eh?

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Saturday, 27 August 2011 23:26 (twelve years ago) link

Evans/Hall is the first album I've downloaded because of this list.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, 27 August 2011 23:26 (twelve years ago) link

227    Marion Brown Quartet - Marion Brown Quartet (1966)  415 points, 5 votes
http://i43.tower.com/images/mm105905024/marion-brown-quartet-cd-cover-art.jpg

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Saturday, 27 August 2011 23:43 (twelve years ago) link

dont know that one at all

D-40, Saturday, 27 August 2011 23:44 (twelve years ago) link

Guessing from the artwork it's on ESP-Disk?

NickB, Saturday, 27 August 2011 23:45 (twelve years ago) link

i wonder if any jaki byard will make it (((??? maybe 'freedom together!'??))))

D-40, Saturday, 27 August 2011 23:46 (twelve years ago) link

Never even heard of Marion Brown. Must check that out.

Don't ask for the steening, ask for the HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 August 2011 23:58 (twelve years ago) link

Oh yeah, of course.

Don't ask for the steening, ask for the HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 28 August 2011 00:03 (twelve years ago) link

i totally recommend that marion brown quartet album

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 28 August 2011 00:05 (twelve years ago) link

226 Miles Davis - Miles Davis and the Modern Jazz Giants (1954) 417 Points, 4 votes
http://www.jazz.com/assets/2007/12/22/albumcoverMilesDavisAndTheModernJazzGiants.jpg?1198367842
http://open.spotify.com/album/5QwUkCyyFqFxzLWFX5SydM

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 28 August 2011 00:05 (twelve years ago) link

need to play that one again

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 28 August 2011 00:18 (twelve years ago) link

225 Grant Green - Street Of Dreams (1964) 422 Points, 4 votes
http://img.maniadb.com/images/album/162/162545_1_f.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/1xh7V9UTTezA3YDczzAGYo

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 28 August 2011 00:21 (twelve years ago) link

Voted for a few Grant Greens, but don't know that one

Evans/Hall is the first album I've downloaded because of this list.

― EveningStar (Sund4r), Saturday, August 27, 2011 7:26 PM (53 minutes ago)


Wow, this is really great.

Don't ask for the steening, ask for the HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 28 August 2011 00:23 (twelve years ago) link

yeah not too familiar with it myself. Definitely heard it though, my mate has that cd. I love the cover.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 28 August 2011 00:25 (twelve years ago) link

Looking at the names on that cover, this is another one for further investigation.

Don't ask for the steening, ask for the HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 28 August 2011 00:29 (twelve years ago) link

^ Indeed. Definitely will check out that one.

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 28 August 2011 00:31 (twelve years ago) link

next one seems a bit appropriate!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 28 August 2011 00:35 (twelve years ago) link

224    Wes Montgomery - The Incredible Jazz Guitar (1960) 431 points,  4 votes
http://joefarrell.jazz59.com/images/066wesmontgomeryincrediblejazzguitar.gif
http://open.spotify.com/album/5RwRaAJXxc7SULhw1Z1j0y

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 28 August 2011 00:38 (twelve years ago) link

oof low

D-40, Sunday, 28 August 2011 00:41 (twelve years ago) link

Only four votes? Too low.

Don't ask for the steening, ask for the HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 28 August 2011 00:43 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i expected it to be higher, but some stuff has missed out on the 250 completely!

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 28 August 2011 00:46 (twelve years ago) link

223    Archie Shepp - Yasmina, a black woman (1969) 432 Points, 4 votes
http://weirdorecords.com/zen/images/shep_6743.jpg

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 28 August 2011 00:52 (twelve years ago) link

taking it down to 220 tonight btw

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 28 August 2011 00:53 (twelve years ago) link

i totally recommend that marion brown quartet album
this
― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Saturday, August 27, 2011 7:05 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark

i don't remember if i voted for this or not, but if i didn't, i'm very sorry. this is a good one!

i drive a wood paneled station dragon (La Lechera), Sunday, 28 August 2011 01:01 (twelve years ago) link

blue note covers are so grebt

mookieproof, Sunday, 28 August 2011 01:03 (twelve years ago) link

222  Eric Dolphy - Iron Man (1963)  436 Points,  4 votes
http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/d/dolphy_eric_ironman~~_102b.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/0qqoAq1kzfSXEkX2b3SSrr

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 28 August 2011 01:03 (twelve years ago) link

LOVE that grant green album. the title track is one of my favorite standards, frank sinatra's vocal version kills.

expecting to see more bobby hutcherson - san francisco is only the tip of the iceberg

excuse me you're a helluva guy (m coleman), Sunday, 28 August 2011 01:08 (twelve years ago) link

221  Ornette Coleman - Ornette! (1961) 436 Points, 5 votes
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ab/Album-Ornette-Coleman-Ornette.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/7BxOi2aKqOyAcOXo6EpIFl

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 28 August 2011 01:18 (twelve years ago) link

Last one for the night up next

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 28 August 2011 01:19 (twelve years ago) link

Recap

250    Thelonious Monk - Criss Cross  359    4
249    Herbie Hancock - Blow-Up    364    3 
248    gil evans - out of the cool    365    3
247    Clifford Brown and Max Roach at Basin Street    367    3
246    Charles Mingus - Blues And Roots    369    4
245    Sun Ra - Strange Strings    373    4
243(tie)Sonny Sharrock - Guitar    376    2
243(tie)243    Milford Graves - Babi    376    2
242    Art Ensemble Of Chicago - Message To Our Folks    377    3
240(tie)Peter Brötzmann - Nipples    377    4
240(tie)Elvin Jones - Dear John C.    377    4
239    Roland Kirk - Natural Black Inventions: Root Strata    380    2
238    Sun Ra - Other Planes of There    381    3
237    John Coltrane - Live at Birdland    384    4
236    Herbie Hancock - Thrust    386    3
235    Les McCann & Eddie Harris - Swiss Movement    387    3 
234    Derek Bailey - Ballads    387    5 
233    Max Roach - We Insist! Freedom Now Suite    394    4
232    Roland Kirk - Blacknuss    398    4 
231    Sun Ra - The Nubians Of Plutonia    402
230    Bill Evans & Jim Hall - Undercurrent    412    4 
229    Bobby Hutcherson - San Francisco    413    3 
228    Miles Davis - Miles Davis Quartet    415    4 
227    Marion Brown Quartet - Marion Brown Quartet    415    5 
226    Miles Davis - Miles Davis and the Modern Jazz Giants    417    4 
225    Grant Green - Street Of Dreams    422    4 
224    Wes Montgomery - The Incredible Jazz Guitar    431    4 
223    Archie Shepp - Yasmina, a black woman    432    4 
222    Eric Dolphy - Iron Man    436    4 
221    Ornette Coleman - Ornette!    436    5  
220    Bill Evans - Portrait In Jazz    440    3  

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 28 August 2011 01:48 (twelve years ago) link

the trane record placement is prob the craziest to me still

D-40, Sunday, 28 August 2011 01:55 (twelve years ago) link

and thrust and wes ...

you should see what missed out

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 28 August 2011 02:01 (twelve years ago) link

a) were you expecting ppl to vote for 20 trane albums

b) the whole premise of this poll is insane, though props to kerr for trying; it is too huge and precious few voters (eg me) have heard enough of these enough times to constructively vote

c) very looking forward to checking out some new stuff, but i don't think bitching about the rankings is gonna get us anywhere

d) sorry i hate jazz guitar (should try again) so wes/grant's placements are partially my fault

mookieproof, Sunday, 28 August 2011 02:09 (twelve years ago) link

d) sorry i hate jazz guitar (should try again) so wes/grant's placements are partially my fault

If you haven't heard Sharrock's Guitar, let me recommend it with his quote in mind: "I consider myself a saxophonist with a very fucked-up axe."

L.P. Hovercraft (WmC), Sunday, 28 August 2011 02:14 (twelve years ago) link

Ha. Just put that on. I also like the regular, boring jazz guitar that mookieproof and hurting hate, but otherwise mookieproof otm.

Don't ask for the steening, ask for the HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 28 August 2011 02:17 (twelve years ago) link

tbf to deej he's not bitching, he knows what polls are like. but i dont blame him for being baffled at the low placement of the trane album.
but it's an ILM poll, you know these things happen!

Also i think 1 or 2 did vote for (nearly) all the miles or trane albums.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 28 August 2011 02:20 (twelve years ago) link

haha yes i have heard a bit of sharrock which seemed like not at all the same thing! but yeah

mookieproof, Sunday, 28 August 2011 02:20 (twelve years ago) link

Anyone want to predict the top 10/20? Then we can compare the guesses when the poll is done and see who was closest.

Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Sunday, 28 August 2011 02:40 (twelve years ago) link

As somebody already said, Kind of Blue is a strong favorite for number one

Don't ask for the steening, ask for the HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 28 August 2011 02:46 (twelve years ago) link

In the top 10 (or at least top 20): Love Supreme, Kind of Blue, Silent Way, Black Saint, Evans @ Village Vanguard, Brilliant Corners, Shape of Jazz to Come, Out to Lunch. Maybe Spiritual Unity? Anyway, I expect like most polls it'll get less interesting near the top. Already d/l'd that Clifford Brown from emusic, I can tell this list is going to give me a lot to dig into.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 28 August 2011 02:55 (twelve years ago) link


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