JAZZ IS LIKE HEROIN TO ME ! ! ! ~~~~ ILM POST-1945 JAZZ ALBUMS POLL - THE RESULTS COUNTDOWN (now counting top 25!)

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Live at birdland >>>>>> a love supreme

you don't dig sun ra? or just the 'ilm' thing about certain acts you dont like? like new order or stooges in polls.

Thought you meant love at (for) Live at Birdland

Its a thing in general we had abig debate about once how outsider/avant/weird jazz artists are overrated relative to mainstream jazz innovators in certain circles that happen to overlap with ilx (mingus and ra are both artists I love, esp mingus, but they both benefit from this and ime guys like duke and bird suffer)

haha yeah i thought that too

xp

another big name next

aw coltrane at birdland is in my personal top 5

And yes I expected it to be much higher
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did you vote, grady?

236 Herbie Hancock - Thrust 386 Points, 3 Votes
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51cNufAawkL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/00Uf5PRAinCJ0oiCX1Cv2k

no i didnt know about this until today
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Always meant to check Milford Graves out, shame it's not on Spotify.

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Saturday, August 27, 2011 2:54 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

I can't recommend Babi enough. If there is a single, definitive "energy music" record, it's this one.

ahh damn. The voting was open for like a month and nominations 2 weeks before that.

yeah i hate ILM tho so

i erm downloaded Babi Will play it soon.

dunno this one. Any good?

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Saturday, August 27, 2011 4:05 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark

I love it. It has probably my single favorite Pat Patrick (aka, Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick's dad) moment, on "Pleasure." The rest of it is very nearly at the level of The Magic City.

i dont hate ilm i just never pay attention to dates on polls

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Hm. I meant to vote for it, voted for plenty of other Coltrane. Must have accidentally deleted it. What can I shout in that case?

― Don't ask for the steening, ask for the HOOS (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, August 27, 2011 4:22 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark

I didn't vote for this only because I would've rather voted for "Live" At The Village Vanguard, but it's my own fault for not nominating that one.

That Elvin Jones disc was recently reissued; I reviewed it on BurningAmbulance.com.

i erm downloaded Babi Will play it soon.

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Saturday, August 27, 2011 4:47 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

That record is ridiculously out of print (never seen it go for less than $80), and unfortunately Graves missed the window for putting out a potentially decent-selling reissue.

been too busy with real life shit in recent weeks to vote, but really hoping that the soul zodiac album gets some love.

was pretty funked out to see that one listed.

[it also happened to be one of the few that i actually have listened to and loved]

FFS i forgot to vote for thrust. It was in my top 20 shortlist but i somehow didnt c&p it over. arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

still wouldnt have got it in the top 150 anyway i dont think. but still.
aaaaaaaaaarrrggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh

Im wondering how a lot of the 70s disco/pop/fusion jazz stuff will fare here. My prediction is that you see stock dropping for guys like Parker and hard bop artists (clifford brown etc) while stock rises for Mingus & Sun Ra type artists (at least, relative to the traditional jazz canon). But w/ people getting into the Mizell stuff and the weirder Herbie Hancock records, I'm wondering if that stuff has made inroads at all. I kind of treat it as pop more than jazz personally (or at least 'dance') but ..yeah

235  Les McCann & Eddie Harris - Swiss Movement  387 Points, 3 Votes 
http://thebadpennyblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/les-mccann-and-eddie-harris-swiss-movement-album-cover.jpg?w=300&h=300

also rlly curious how the sonny rollins stuff will shake out!! village vanguard?

Im wondering how a lot of the 70s disco/pop/fusion jazz stuff will fare here. My prediction is that you see stock dropping for guys like Parker and hard bop artists (clifford brown etc) while stock rises for Mingus & Sun Ra type artists (at least, relative to the traditional jazz canon). But w/ people getting into the Mizell stuff and the weirder Herbie Hancock records, I'm wondering if that stuff has made inroads at all. I kind of treat it as pop more than jazz personally (or at least 'dance') but ..yeah

― D-40, Saturday, 27 August 2011 22:00

Afraid I can't answer that.
Well, I could, but y'know..

Would it be possible to start including the years for these albums? Just might be handy for titles some of us are unfamiliar with.

if spotify went by release date it would be easier but ok, as long as someone else scrolls up and does that stuff while i get on with this. Need to google release dates now for each album.

234    Derek Bailey - Ballads  (2002)  387 Points, 5 Votes
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_xSpWY1epn2g/TOaWoVKwWSI/AAAAAAAAAkU/EissXG_uang/s1600/Ballads.jpeg
http://open.spotify.com/album/509NZ5uv94HI1xp9mtdVdk

i dont know anything about that. anyone want 2 tell me??

grossed out that sun ra has already placed two records

This is kind of why I didn't vote. I didn't want to gross out any of the real jazz fans. Well, there's more to it than that. If I find I don't like most of the genre I guess I should disqualify myself. What's the point in voting in that case?

Other Planes of There is great. I like Ballads as well.

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It's the "jazziest" Derek Bailey I've heard. Takes jazz standards and takes them apart or then veers into typical Derek Bailey style (I guess--I haven't actually heard that much of his work), but you do get at least part of a straightforward rendering before they get taken apart.

its not that the records arent great its that sun ra will be way overrepresented

233  Max Roach - We Insist! Freedom Now Suite (1960) 394 points, 4 votes
http://images.bizrate.com/resize?sq=220&uid=1128457
http://open.spotify.com/album/3BM4ZseBRzpQBC2SiwvR92

dunno this one. Anyone?

thats a great record but i havent heard it in a long time

Root Strata was my #5, great album with a clear avant influence but still really soulful and expressive.

232    Roland Kirk - Blacknuss (1972)    398 Points,  4 Votes
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41ZRMQDKMJL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/1OnXBqIDGKpI3Y9qugJ85p

Guitar is among my all-time favourite albums. It's really special.

I was never able to really get into Babi but I'll try again.

Awfuckenright! Blacknuss is a great ablum

Hyped at #232 placement

Like, I get that it's obviously intense etc but I just haven't personally really clicked with it yet.

I really loved Ballads, when I listened to a lot of outside improv music and didn't listen much at all to standards. Now that the proportions have shifted a little, I wonder how I'd respond to it. Weirdly, it seems to be one of the CDs I packed for storage even though I could swear I intended to bring it with me to my new place. I'll try to download a copy.

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231    Sun Ra - The Nubians Of Plutonia  (1966)  402 Points, 5 Votes
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/77/Nubians_Of_Plutonia.jpg/220px-Nubians_Of_Plutonia.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb73XTtbyhw

Need to hear Guitar again. Owned it way back but was way too much of an indie schmoo to give it a proper go.

230 Bill Evans & Jim Hall - Undercurrent (1962)   412 Points, 4 votes
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5e/Bill_Evans_and_Jim_Hall-Undercurrent_(album_cover).jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/3b2s2A8DPISbaQNxhrEsGQ

Always meant to check Milford Graves out, shame it's not on Spotify.

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Saturday, August 27, 2011 2:54 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

I can't recommend Babi enough. If there is a single, definitive "energy music" record, it's this one.

― shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, August 27, 2011 1:46 PM (1 hour ago)

I dl'ed this on your recommendation a while back, and it is, indeed, "all that" ... also, I totally do not pay attention to deadlines for ballot polls

233 Max Roach - We Insist! Freedom Now Suite (1960) 394 points, 4 votes

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Saturday, August 27, 2011 5:31 PM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

dunno this one. Anyone?

― Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker, Saturday, August 27, 2011 5:40 PM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

thats a great record but i havent heard it in a long time

― D-40, Saturday, August 27, 2011 5:46 PM (31 minutes ago)

sweet poll so far, like all these records. ballads is really really pretty.