"the greatest four-record run in rock history"

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"except for maybe Doc at Radar Station and Safe as Milk, every single one of his records are deeply flawed, boring, misguided, something wrong with all of them."

Whoo, Lord.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 4 November 2005 06:48 (eighteen years ago) link

(Also, Magical Mystery Tour was an EP; we were talking about that upthread.)

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 4 November 2005 06:51 (eighteen years ago) link

AC/DC

High Voltage
Dirty Deeds
Let there be rock
Powerage

Corkers the lot of 'em. But if push comes to shove the Stones still take it.

The Velvet Overlord (The Velvet Overlord), Friday, 4 November 2005 08:51 (eighteen years ago) link

I would love to be able to say Kraftwerk, but to me their unstoppable records are Autobahn, Trans-Europe Express, Man-Machine and Computer World. Problem....Radio-Activity is in there. D'oh. They join the leagues of a number of other bands that have certainly HAD four of the greatest records in rock history, but just not in a row, see also REM, Paul McCartney, the aggressive attempts to make Magical Mystery Tour disappear, etc.....

I'm surprised nobody's said anything regarding Parliament. Mothership Connection, Dr. Funkenstein, Funkentelechy... you just have to pick Chocolate City vs. Motor Booty Affair as your bookend...

Sleater-Kinney is an excellent answer just in terms of, maybe none of the albums will ever enter the canon of Great Rock Records, but they all stand as testaments to the miraculous and rare feat of a working band being consistently VERY good and often great or excellent, certainly never bad. I do feel like All Hands isn't quite up there with what precedes it, but I still like it better than One Beat, so, whatever.

As far as Beck goes, my vote's for Odelay > Mutations > Midnite Vultures > Sea Change. Not only four EXCELLENT albums (much as my opinion on MV has waffled over the years), but covering a whole lot of different territory.

I wonder how much it's fair to not count SOME types of compilations. I mean, if a compilation collects a lot of non-album work from the same period as the surrounding albums, surely it fits in with what we're trying to get at here, the idea of bands being on a temporary creative high? If the Beatles had put out something like Past Masters 1.5 after Pepper, would that not have some relevance? For some reason, even though I don't think they qualify for thread anyway, I'm thinking about Modest Mouse's "Building Nothing Out of Something." Non-album stuff more or less contemporary with Lonesome Crowded West....

Oh hell, I'll go ahead and say it for the sake of hyping a contemporary band: Lonesome Crowded West > Building Nothing Out of Something > Moon & Antarctica > Everywhere & His Nasty Parlour Tricks.

How about Pussy Whipped > Reject All American > Julie Ruin > Le Tigre?

My for real, serious answer: The Ramones win Even with the bad slow numbers and the lame cover art on Leave Home. Those first four records manage to show a progression and yet feel like one continuous peak at the same time. Fabulous, and I really need to get my copies back...

Doctor Casino, Friday, 4 November 2005 09:24 (eighteen years ago) link

"except for maybe Doc at Radar Station and Safe as Milk, every single one of his records are deeply flawed, boring, misguided, something wrong with all of them."

"Whoo, Lord."

You were absolutely right to express surpise and alarm Tim; however we must always remember that in the final analysis it all comes down to a matter of personal taste, which of course is all entirely and intrinsically subjective, and we're all entitled to have our opinions.

Even Edd.

Even when he's so obviously and completely wrong.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 4 November 2005 10:02 (eighteen years ago) link

ha ha. I figured that'd get a rise outta Tim--about the Captain. I'm a fan, but I don't sit around and listen to those albums as a whole, not any of them except "Safe as Milk," sometimes. Not even "Doc," because sometimes "Sheriff of Hong Kong" drives me nuts; not even "Decals," because ditto those saxes on "Flash Gordon's Ape." And ditto "Candle Mambo" and "Love Lies" on "Shiny Beast," I hate those "songs." On the other hand, "Suction Prints" and "Owed T' Alex" are just brilliant.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 4 November 2005 17:30 (eighteen years ago) link

"aggressive attempts to make Magical Mystery Tour disappear"

Haha. No, it was, really. A double seven inch. Capitol made it an album by putting all the recent single sides on the B-sides. It has stayed an album in their catalog only because this has remained an easy way for these single tracks to be available. (They would have overloaded Past Masters Volume 2.)

And again, The White Album came out only a year and a half after Sgt. Pepper. That's hardly a big gulf of time, particularly in terms of how we think of artists working nowadays.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 4 November 2005 17:45 (eighteen years ago) link

"Capitol made it an album by putting all the recent single sides on the B-side (of the album)."

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 4 November 2005 17:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I agree, actually, that the '68 era Magic Band could have been better represented than by Strictly Personal, by the way. And not just the phase shifting, either - I like the Mirror Man version of "Kandy Korn" better.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 4 November 2005 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link

ha ha. I figured that'd get a rise outta Tim--about the Captain. I'm a fan, but I don't sit around and listen to those albums as a whole, not any of them except "Safe as Milk," sometimes

OTM about Safe as Milk being the Captain's most consistent record. Trout Mask is really difficult for me to listen to straight-through nowadays, though I used to all the time when I was younger (and partook more of the jazz-cigareet). I actually think that Shiny Beast is pretty consistently listenable all the way through. I used to hate "Candle Mambo" and "Love Lies" too, but now I like them.

o. nate (onate), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Not even "Doc," because sometimes "Sheriff of Hong Kong" drives me nuts

Ha ha, that's the song that got me started on Beefheart on the first place (and i ain't finished yet)

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:17 (eighteen years ago) link

The Flaming Lips' Priest Driven Ambulance through Clouds Taste Metallic.

I'd love to be able to start with Transmissions and go to Soft Bulletin, but the fact that Zaireeka, while actually a good record, really doesn't make the cut, even if it were a less unweildy format than the crazy 4 simultaneous cd release thing. If Zaireeka wasn't wedged in there, I'd even nominate Priest through Soft Bulletin as a five-record run.

martin m. (mushrush), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I can read, people, and trust me, I know the history of Magical Mystery Tour. I think it's fair to count double 7"es as an EP (see also, Liz Phair's "Juvenilia") - they certainly can't be just written off as singles. And nobody has yet answered Edward III's question "Who said EPs don't count?"

Doctor Casino, Friday, 4 November 2005 18:36 (eighteen years ago) link

No one, but we were generally talking about albums and the Beatles' album sequence was, after all, Rubber Soul, Revolver, Sgt. Pepper, White Album.

Anyway, it wasn't a case for trying to get the Beatles in on a technicality or anything! Magical Mystery Tour is an awesome EP.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:42 (eighteen years ago) link

But isn't it the first four Voivod albums?

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I agree, actually, that the '68 era Magic Band could have been better represented than by Strictly Personal, by the way. And not just the phase shifting, either - I like the Mirror Man version of "Kandy Korn" better.

me too, Tim. I love what Lucas and Johnston did with it on the Fast 'n' Bulbous album this year. I love Beef--his albums are a bit like James Brown's, I guess, so strong and yet so flawed. No one could keep up that inhuman pace anyway. and speaking of "Sheriff of Hong Kong," sometimes I get into its flow and it sounds incredible, sometimes I feel like I'm riding go-kart on a muddy dirt track with two fat-bottomed gurls...which might actually be a good thing now that I type that...

xp

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
As he writes above, Mr. Matos revives this thread, sorta, in his recent reissues column:

[Talking Heads first four albums] stand with any four consecutive albums ever made by anybody. (The Velvet Underground and Public Enemy aside, these are almost certainly the greatest first four albums in all of pop music.)

Matt Sab (Matt Sab), Monday, 5 December 2005 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link

is this albums or singles? if it's the latter i'd say there has to be a run of jam singles -, when you're young, strange town, eton rifles, going underground
never been surpassed

Dr XO'Skeleton, Monday, 5 December 2005 16:25 (eighteen years ago) link

no one repped for

the smiths > hatful of hollow > meat is murder > the queen is dead

?

i will then.

jive session (elwisty), Monday, 5 December 2005 19:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I can see why folks give the props they do to the Talking Heads foursome ... but I personally think Remain in Light is the worst of the four. Yes, the record has perhaps the band's two best songs, but side 2 is dang near unlistenable to me.

Even so, More Songs ... and Fear of Music are two of the most colossally great rock records. No false notes on either album, especially the latter.

Chris O., Monday, 5 December 2005 19:44 (eighteen years ago) link

How about a run of Motorpsycho records:

Timothy's monster > Blissard > Angels and deamons at play > Trust us

All equally great.

Marty Innerlogic (marty innerlogic), Monday, 5 December 2005 23:42 (eighteen years ago) link

look people just admit it, the correct, most widely-consensus-ed answer is CCR.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 5 December 2005 23:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Since no-one else is going to, I have to second Marty's call on Motorpsycho. They get no love 'round here. Blissard being the best of those four, obv. Will they ever make another album? Will I ever get to see them live again? (Once is not enough) But I'm not proposing that they win the contest. No. How's about the Sun City Girls, the Majora years? It's a pretty great run that has to be taken as a whole:

# Torch of the Mystics LP (Majora) 1990
# Dawn of the Devi LP (Majora) 1991
# Live from Planet Boomerang 2-LP (Majora) 1992
# Bright Surroundings, Dark Deginnings LP (Majora) 1993
# Valentines from Matahari LP (Majora) 1993
# Kaliflower CD/LP (Abduction) 1994

myopic_void (myopic_void), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Regarding Motorpsycho, you're right they're not often mentioned over here. Maybe cus they're a typical european band and they haven't toured the UK (let alone the US) that much?

I'm ultimately down with Trust Us, which is probably my favorite record of all time, with AADAP as a great runner-up.

They've recently finished recording the new one, though their drummer left a few months ago so it's made only by Bent and Snah, and the first rumours about a new tour in the spring of 2006 are to be found on the MP-forum. Release is expected somewhere in feb/mar 2006. I guess.

Marty Innerlogic (marty innerlogic), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Thread is dead I guess, but to add a couple new ones:

The last one is a compilation of two EPs, but it's been an "album" as far as I can remember, and rivals any of Nick Cave's best solo work.
Birthday Party 80
Prayers On Fire 81
Junkyard 82
The Bad Seed/Mutiny 83

How Curtis Mayfield was overlooked is beyond me.
Curtis 70
Roots 71
Superfly 72
Back To The World 73

I'd say The Sound has an edge over Comsat Angels in that Heads and Hearts doesn't suck.
Jeopardy 80
From The Lions Mouth 81
All Fall Down 82
Heads And Hearts 85

Though I'm a little tired of her at the moment,
Debut 93
Post 95
Homogenic 97
Vespertine 01

Arto Lindsay may be the most underrated artist of the last decade.
Mundo Civilizado 97
Noon Chill 98
Prize 99
Invoke 02

Am I alone in thinking CCR didn't really make albums? They seemed to me to be just singles collections with filler. For someone like Otis Redding, it works. But when I borrowed the box set of all their albums, I really couldn't get into any of the so-called album tracks.

Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Saturday, 4 February 2006 23:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Fastnbulbous OTM regarding Bjork.

Marty Innerlogic (marty innerlogic), Sunday, 5 February 2006 12:40 (eighteen years ago) link

the 3 new pornographers records + the a.c newman solo are the 1st four greatest lp's of the new millenium.

let me just add, Sunday, 5 February 2006 12:45 (eighteen years ago) link

six years pass...

here we go:

Eno's 4 vocal albums (I know he did Discreet Music in between there, but these kind of form a set)

They Might Be Giants - s/t, Lincoln, Flood, Apollo 18

Van der Graaf Generator - H to He Who Am The Only One, Pawn Hearts, Godbluff, Still Life

Orbital - Orbital 2, Snivilisation, In Sides, Middle of Nowhere

Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique, Check Your Head, Ill Communication, Hello Nasty

ELP - s/t, Tarkus, Trilogy, Brain Salad Surgery

The Orb - Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld, U.F. Orbus, Orbus Terrarum, Orblivion

Ween - The Mollusk, White Pepper, quebec, Shinola vol. 1 (ok counting Shinola is kinda lame but it's up there with the rest)

Gary Numan - Tubeway Army, Replicas, Pleasure Principle, Telekon

Pink Floyd – Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, Animals, The Wall
Genesis – Nursery Cryme, Foxtrot, Selling England by the Pound, The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Friday, 23 March 2012 14:43 (twelve years ago) link

Gets Next to You
Let's Stay Together
I'm Still in Love with You
Call Me
pretty fair run.

church

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 March 2012 14:47 (twelve years ago) link

Black Vinyl Shoes, Present Tense, Tongue Twister, Boomerang. (I didn't check above--if anyone else mentioned them, colour me astounded.)

clemenza, Friday, 23 March 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link

Tri Repetae, Chiastic Slide, LP5, Confield

ledge, Friday, 23 March 2012 14:53 (twelve years ago) link

lp5, confield, draft 7:30, untilted

Mentioned towards the beginning, but there's a good long stretch of Royal Trux I'd consider. In my personal opinion, I might go with Cats & Dogs, Thank You, Sweet Sixteen, and Accelerator. It kinda kills me to stop short and not include Veterans of Disorder, though.

Henry David Thorough (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, 23 March 2012 14:57 (twelve years ago) link

Maybe I have the order that these were released in wrong but:

A Love Supreme
Ascension
The John Coltrane Quartet Plays
Meditations

Valéry Giscard d'Staind (NickB), Friday, 23 March 2012 14:58 (twelve years ago) link

Miles Davis:

In A Silent Way
Bitches Brew
A Tribute To Jack Johnson
On The Corner

Valéry Giscard d'Staind (NickB), Friday, 23 March 2012 15:01 (twelve years ago) link

Oh wait "in rock history" duh. Scratch those.

Valéry Giscard d'Staind (NickB), Friday, 23 March 2012 15:01 (twelve years ago) link

nakh you have prompted me to give Draft 7.30 yet one more spin.

ledge, Friday, 23 March 2012 15:03 (twelve years ago) link

Station To Station, Low, Heroes, Lodger.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 23 March 2012 15:03 (twelve years ago) link

nice...it's awesome, not a glorious spring day sort of record though

<q>Ween - The Mollusk, White Pepper, quebec, Shinola vol. 1</q>

bow to frogbs, stevie wonder

action bronieson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 March 2012 15:06 (twelve years ago) link

If only Talk Talk had done something as a group after Laughing Stock.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 23 March 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link

also, Stevie Wonder is not rock n roll, sorry

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, October 26, 2005 3:22 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

smfh

action bronieson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 March 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link

Someone upthread had a problem with Kraftwerk because Radioactivity sits in the middle of Autobahn, Trans Europe Express, The Man Machine and Computer World. I would say this isn't a problem because Radioactivity is a better album than Computer World anyway. Therefore, Kraftwerk is the correct answer.

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Friday, 23 March 2012 15:08 (twelve years ago) link

It's hard to pick a Genesis run. I slightly prefer the run starting from Selling England... maybe second side of Foxtrot to first side of Trick!

Träumerei, Friday, 23 March 2012 15:15 (twelve years ago) link

Tri Repetae, Chiastic Slide, LP5, Confield

― ledge, Friday, 23 March 2012 14:53 (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Can't really agree with this, and I'm a massive Ae fan. Add EP7 in there and we can talk.

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Friday, 23 March 2012 15:17 (twelve years ago) link

Led Zeppelin IV - Houses - PG - Presence

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Friday, 23 March 2012 15:18 (twelve years ago) link

MLIR, Parklife, The Great Escape, Blur

^ tempted to say this is a strong contender. TGE is the weakest link, but seems to have undergone a bit of a reassessment of late.

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Friday, 23 March 2012 15:18 (twelve years ago) link

Eep, I made a math error.

Träumerei, Friday, 23 March 2012 15:19 (twelve years ago) link

If you count Band of Gypsys (all-new material, not a posthumous/archival release), Hendrix:

Are You Experienced?
Axis: Bold As Love
Electric Ladyland
Band of Gypsys

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 23 March 2012 15:22 (twelve years ago) link


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