Melody Maker Albums of the Year 1988

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Quality not quantity.

Dingbod Kesterson, Monday, 16 June 2008 12:28 (fifteen years ago) link

the list: a-fkn-bundance galore. im-bogglin-possible to choose.

t**t, Monday, 16 June 2008 12:37 (fifteen years ago) link

From memory the critical breakdown would have been thusly:

1 - everyone's 8th or 9th choice
2, 6, 14 - Stickboy
3, 5, 7, 10, 13, 15, 24, 29 - Reynoldstubbs
4, 9, 18, 22, 25, 27 - Jonesey
8, 11, 12, 16, 17, 20, 21 - Chris Roberts
19 - Stud Bros
23 - Caroline Sullivan
26 - Carol Clerk
28-30 - ?

Dingbod Kesterson, Monday, 16 June 2008 12:52 (fifteen years ago) link

(i.e. I don't recall anyone in MM being especially opinionated one way or the other about the last three)

Dingbod Kesterson, Monday, 16 June 2008 12:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Tender Prey

baaderonixx, Monday, 16 June 2008 12:57 (fifteen years ago) link

I've only heard five albums on this list, but then my 1988 was almost entirely 12" singles-based, and mostly guitar-free. At the time, my top albums of the year were:

1. Lovesexy - Prince
2. Tracey Chapman - Tracey Chapman
3. Introspective - PSBs
4. Short Sharp Shocked - Michelle Shocked
5. The Forest Is Crying - Trio Bulgarka
6. Look What I Got - Betty Carter
7. Akwaba Beach - Mory Kante
8. Green - REM
9. Naked - Talking Heads
10. Gypsy Kings - Gypsy Kings

...with The Pogues If I Fall From Grace With God, Hal Wilner's Disney tribute Stay Awake and Leonard Cohen's I'm Your Man as runners up.

Most glaring omission: It Takes A Nation Of Millions, but I was DJ-ing a mixed alternative lesbian/gay club night and had BANNED! Public Enemy after Professor Griff's homophobic comments in the press. My Roxanne Shante-loving separatist lesbian contingent wouldn't have stood for it, for starters - and bearing in mind the climate of the times (Clause 28 etc), I wasn't standing for it either.

20 years on, and my vote from this lot has of COURSE to be for Public Enemy.

mike t-diva, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:07 (fifteen years ago) link

CharlieNo4: that AR Kane album sounds like really woozy dub reggae with lots of JAMC-style feedback thrown in the mix. It sort of lollops along sleepily and every now and again it'll crash into a big bucket of noise. The Live Skull is good too: quite a dark sound but with lots of white light shining through all the holes ripped in it. It's not a million miles away from the AR Kane actually - the same sort of lolloping bass with guitars slicing through the muzz, but definitely 1000x more rocking. They always got compared with Sonic Youth at the time and that overshadowed them a bit.

NickB, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Er, Nation Of Millions is there but at number (Clause!) 28 WAS THIS A PLOT WE SHOULD BE TOLD

Pogues were verboten at MM and Stickboy was quite keen on Tracy Chapman but I guess in MM terms she failed to have significant swoon/bliss component necessary for the times.

Dingbod Kesterson, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:18 (fifteen years ago) link

To be honest this year would be better evaluated by a singles EOY list, being the year of Acieed crossover and all that...

Dingbod Kesterson, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Fisherman's Blues!

I still have a soft spot for that album.

sam500, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes. (leaves Ding's office) (with an xpost)

The Pogues If I Fall From Grace With God

Now we're talkin.

Mark G, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:22 (fifteen years ago) link

BACK IN THE OFFICE RIGHT NOW MM WERE RIGHT WORST GROUP EVER

Dingbod Kesterson, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Er, Nation Of Millions is there but at number (Clause!) 28 WAS THIS A PLOT WE SHOULD BE TOLD

Heh... I meant that they were omitted from my own list, not MM's.

My 1988: Ten City, Inner City, Todd Terry in all his guises, Neneh Cherry, Rob Base, Sterling Void, Yazz, S-Express, Eric B & Rakim, early sightings of De La Soul & Soul II Soul, Stetsasonic, Young MC, Phase II, Ofra Haza, Blaze, Nightwriters, Kym Mazelle, CeCe Rogers, Brat Pack, Joyce Sims, JVC Force, Roxanne Shante, Yello, Womack & Womack...

mike t-diva, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:33 (fifteen years ago) link

The year I first started reading MM regularly. It's probably not unconnected, then, that 1-3-5-6-14-16-20-21 would be somewhere in my own personal top 200 of all-time. 28 seems terribly important and ground-breaking and that, but I didn't understand that stuff at the time and I don't think I've played it more than half a dozen times.

Michael Jones, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:33 (fifteen years ago) link

I really, really, really, really loathe The Pogues. Sorry everyone. They're the fucking worst. Trad-Oirish fakey dullard bollocks from some public-school dropout with disgusting, avoidable health issues and a bullshit mythology.

Just got offed, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:35 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't think anyone disagrees.

banriquit, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:36 (fifteen years ago) link

If that AR Kane album really sounds as NickB describes it then I've been missing out!

I know, right?, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:37 (fifteen years ago) link

My mum likes The Pogues. ;_;

Just got offed, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:38 (fifteen years ago) link

If that AR Kane album really sounds as NickB describes it then I've been missing out!

I don't think it does, but then that's just my opinion. I don't like The Pogues either but any band with Terry Woods in them can hardly be descibed as fake Oirish.

Tom D., Monday, 16 June 2008 13:39 (fifteen years ago) link

If it helps people don't think they're fake Oirish in Oirland

I know, right?, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Did the Cardiacs make it into any critics' EOY polls ever?

The people standing next to me at The Forum last night were having an animated conversation about Cardiacs.

Mind you, it was at a Gong concert...

mike t-diva, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:40 (fifteen years ago) link

It was probably my ex-brother-in-law

Tom D., Monday, 16 June 2008 13:42 (fifteen years ago) link

The Pogues in precis:

hoidy hoidy hoidy hoi an a hoidy hoidy birmingham six hoidy hoi an a drunk un shite un whisky kilburn rent boy hoidy hoidy hoi

Dingbod Kesterson, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Actually, "Rum Sod" etc was the one.

I got "grace" but played it once. approx.

Although I did use "Fiesta" for the Dance Troup in Turkey, before it became ubiquitious in adland...

Mark G, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:44 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm gratified that no one is lamenting the exclusion of Rattle And Hum from this list.

(Introspective by the PSBs should have been in but they were also disliked at MM)

Dingbod Kesterson, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:44 (fifteen years ago) link

If I were Irish, the act mentioned on this thread I'd patriotically declare as upholding the adventurous, aesthetic spirit of the nation would be the one with Kevin Shields in it. Dingbod OTM.

Just got offed, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Okay, I know we're just bashing the Pogues but, to clarify: is this Green Hazed Daze song I'm watching on youtube representational of the general sound etc of AR Kane, if so I like a lot.

I know, right?, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:45 (fifteen years ago) link

primal scream? ; )

I know, right?, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:46 (fifteen years ago) link

OK, had another look at the list OH Godddd....

I'd vote for "Life's too good".

I would be interested in crossing the road for getting a copy of "Fishermans Blues" OK? s'about it. ~Not heard it (partfrom thi singles).

Mark G, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:46 (fifteen years ago) link

If I were Irish, the act mentioned on this thread I'd patriotically declare as upholding the adventurous, aesthetic spirit of the nation would be the one with Kevin Shields in it.

That'll be the Kevin Shields who's lived in England for 20-odd years then?

Tom D., Monday, 16 June 2008 13:46 (fifteen years ago) link

and was born in NY etc etc yeah but they're IRISH, look at their NAMES

Just got offed, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:47 (fifteen years ago) link

THEIR DRUMMER'S NAME i mean

Just got offed, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:48 (fifteen years ago) link

...

banriquit, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Like Shane McGowan?

Tom D., Monday, 16 June 2008 13:48 (fifteen years ago) link

I wouldn't ever actually listen to the Pogues but their abrasive drinking songs fit with a whole lineage of pissed off hyper conservative music in Ireland. They're hardly Planxty though....

I know, right?, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Always preferred Band of Holy Joy myself.

Dingbod Kesterson, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:50 (fifteen years ago) link

This is a pointless argument, MBV are Irish, The Pogues are shite, finito.

Just got offed, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Nyah Fearties for me

Tom D., Monday, 16 June 2008 13:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Every time I see that name, I can't help but hear Vic Reeves announcing it! (Band of Holy Joy, I mean)

Mark G, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Nobody stays in Ireland, that's why its so romanticized, it's bloomsday so I don't mind mentioning that Joyce wrote Ulysses in Paris

I know, right?, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:52 (fifteen years ago) link

right, but getting back to AR Kane...?

I know, right?, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:52 (fifteen years ago) link

What did they do after AR Kane?

Tom D., Monday, 16 June 2008 13:53 (fifteen years ago) link

?

I know, right?, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:53 (fifteen years ago) link

I probably didn't do a very good job of describing them BTW :o(

NickB, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Did MARRS, got lots of money, bought themselves out of the 4AD contract, and went back to their high-paying day jobs probably.

Mark G, Monday, 16 June 2008 13:57 (fifteen years ago) link

And gave up music then?

Tom D., Monday, 16 June 2008 13:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Strange how Colourbox totally vanished after MARRS (predicted Dale verdict: "They were a weird lot, weren't they?").

Dingbod Kesterson, Monday, 16 June 2008 14:00 (fifteen years ago) link

I dunno, probably. They might be writing high-selling singles for Tracey Ullman in Japan, for all I know.

Mark G, Monday, 16 June 2008 14:01 (fifteen years ago) link

AR Kane did "i" the year after which was poppier but also brilliant (Primal Scream did an interesting cover version a couple of years later except they called it Screamadelica). Then they put out a crap third album on David Byrne's label in '94, since when nowt has been heard.

Dingbod Kesterson, Monday, 16 June 2008 14:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Joyce wrote Ulysses in Paris

don't think he did

banriquit, Monday, 16 June 2008 14:02 (fifteen years ago) link

There was a Royal House album? I just didn't get "Party People" at all when it came out, in much the same way that I didn't get "Adventures Of Grandmaster Flash On The Wheels Of Steel" - it was a couple of jumps ahead of me, but I had an underlying hunch that there was something worth perservering with. Then "Can You Feel It" - which was virtually a remix of "Party People" anyway - came out and just exploded. It was my biggest floor filler for two or three weeks, just after "Big Fun" and just before "Voodoo Ray". And then there was Swan Lake, Black Riot, Todd Terry Project... ah, Todd-mania, happy days...

mike t-diva, Thursday, 19 June 2008 09:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Yep - the Royal House album was entitled Can You Party? Standout track: "A Better Way" with vocals by the splendidly-named Ian Star.

Dingbod Kesterson, Thursday, 19 June 2008 10:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Wow, Hope Against Hope. There's an album I hadn't heard in nearly 20 years. I think I still have it on tape, which includes Love Agenda from the following year, and might even be better. Time is right for a reissue. Wired For Sound 1986-93 was issued in '95.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 19 June 2008 16:28 (fifteen years ago) link

No Critical Beatdown
No Blood Fire Death
No Bananarama's greatest hits
No I Am Kurious Oranj
No I'm Your Man
No Reek of Putrefaction
No South of Heaven
No Great Adventures of Slick Rick
No Don't Be Cruel
No Lead Me On
No Straight Outta Compton
No ...And Justice For All, for the fucking love of Christ

this list wasn't even there in '88

J0hn D., Thursday, 19 June 2008 18:11 (fifteen years ago) link

MC covers Compton a couple of posts up

energy flash gordon, Friday, 20 June 2008 00:35 (fifteen years ago) link

indeed, it made #21 the following year

energy flash gordon, Friday, 20 June 2008 00:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Never thought I'd see a poll where my two favorite albums are by Public Fucking Enemy and Sonic Fucking Youth, but hey, there's a first time for everything (and they're both pretty good albums, obviously.)

xhuxk, Friday, 20 June 2008 00:42 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm surprised Melody Maker panned It Takes a Nation of Millions... when it first came out. Is the review available online anywhere? I'd love to read it.

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 20 June 2008 03:13 (fifteen years ago) link

ISTR Reynolds opining that "Millions" was too self-referential and too concerned with PE's treatment at the hands of the media and that it was a distinct disappointment after "Bum Rush". I thought he was wrong then and I think he was even wronger now.

Venga, Friday, 20 June 2008 09:29 (fifteen years ago) link

also there was insufficient bliss/ocean input unlike e.g. Strafe Fur Rebellion and Legendary Pink Dots.

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 20 June 2008 11:35 (fifteen years ago) link

At the end of 1988 I would have said Green. By 1991 I'd gone back and discovered Isn't Anything, Surfer Rosa, and Daydream Nation. I'm struggling to choose between those ones now.

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Friday, 20 June 2008 12:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

ILX System, Monday, 23 June 2008 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

ILX System, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 23:01 (fifteen years ago) link

I have 13 of those and they're all great - or they were the last time i played them in about 1989.
Honourable mentions - pixies ,mbv yawn, amc, thin white spunk, muses, kane

Seeing as it's missing Rudimentary Peni and Napalm Death, it's gotta be Jane Siberry . Sounded like nothing else to me when I first heard it

Fer Ark, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 23:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Don't believe the Hype

Fer Ark, Tuesday, 24 June 2008 23:15 (fifteen years ago) link

No-one into Revolting Cocks? I'm sort of surprised by that.

Have still never heard any Jane Siberry. Anyone care to tell me about that record?

NickB, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 09:11 (fifteen years ago) link

I couldn't decide whether to vote for RevCo or Skinny Puppy, and forgot to vote for either.

aldo, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 09:15 (fifteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

ugh someone voted the wonderstuff

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 21 April 2009 19:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Wow Marcello voted for AR Kane? I must adjust my assesment of him.

one art, please (Trayce), Saturday, 25 April 2009 07:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Sorry that sounds rude. I didnt have a bad assesment to begin with. But anyway.

one art, please (Trayce), Saturday, 25 April 2009 07:56 (fifteen years ago) link

I've had bad and good assessments of Marcello. I wouldn't be quick to pass judgement with that dude. To this day I have no idea how I stand about him. ILX might be a little more entertaining with his presence, though. He was noticeably silent on that Phil Spector thread. I somehow he'll return to ILX for awhile, if at all.

Earl of Gothington Manor (Bimble), Saturday, 25 April 2009 09:58 (fifteen years ago) link

DOUBT

Earl of Gothington Manor (Bimble), Saturday, 25 April 2009 10:04 (fifteen years ago) link


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