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It seems we all have slightly different ideas of what that motorik beat is.

― Mark (MarkR), Monday, 14 February 2005 12:57 (8 years ago) Permalink

Someone will say Bjork in a minute...

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 14 February 2005 13:15 (8 years ago) Permalink

the human beinz - "nobody but me"

― peter smith (plsmith), Monday, 14 February 2005 14:02 (8 years ago) Permalink

lilys - zero population growth ep
levitation - against nature

― mzui (mzui), Monday, 14 February 2005 14:12 (8 years ago) Permalink

That motorik beat is always accompanied by a spectral gauzey fade-in. YES.

(my examples do not all bear this out)

― Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Monday, 14 February 2005 14:21 (8 years ago) Permalink

"Full Moon in My Pocket" - Swell Maps (and probably other of their songs, too)

Also several Unrest songs, like the Hyrdofoil/Hydroplane ones.

― arch Ibog (arch Ibog), Monday, 14 February 2005 14:35 (8 years ago) Permalink

Boredoms - 7 (Boriginal)

― Dominique (dleone), Monday, 14 February 2005 14:46 (8 years ago) Permalink

David Bowie - Station To Station

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 14 February 2005 14:55 (8 years ago) Permalink

Iggy Pop - Sister Midnight

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 14 February 2005 14:55 (8 years ago) Permalink

Donna Summer - I Feel Love

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 14 February 2005 14:56 (8 years ago) Permalink

Anything by Thomas Koner
Similarly anything by Lull
Brian Eno's On Land

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 14 February 2005 15:08 (8 years ago) Permalink

???

― Mark (MarkR), Monday, 14 February 2005 15:16 (8 years ago) Permalink

my rough guide

― willem (willem), Monday, 14 February 2005 15:21 (8 years ago) Permalink

Secret Machines--"Nowhere Again" and "Now Here Is Nowhere." Live though they don't do it--Bonham circa Zep IV song one through the encore.

― kaiser motorik, Monday, 14 February 2005 15:24 (8 years ago) Permalink

Tortoise - Djed (Don't know why that one didn't occur to me sooner!)

― M Carty (mj_c), Monday, 14 February 2005 15:46 (8 years ago) Permalink

That motorik beat is always accompanied by a spectral gauzey fade-in. YES.
(my examples do not all bear this out)
-- Alex in Doncaster (alex_fac...) (webmail), February 14th, 2005 2:21 PM. (link)

Like, for instance, "Silver Machine" Hawkwind?

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 14 February 2005 16:45 (8 years ago) Permalink

most things Hamish Kilgour drums on. The Clean's 'Vehicle' is the same beat at varying speeds for the whole record. pretty much, anyway.

― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Monday, 14 February 2005 17:19 (8 years ago) Permalink

Jagz Kooner productions and remixes.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 14 February 2005 17:53 (8 years ago) Permalink

mark otm about hawkwind - their studio stuff esp has some crisp clean motorik, while the space ritual stuff is some hairier/messier kraut-esque drumming. god i fucking love hawkwind.

― peter smith (plsmith), Monday, 14 February 2005 17:56 (8 years ago) Permalink

There's a track near the end of Dusk at Cubist Castle (I think it's the title track) that fits the bill.

― sleep (sleep), Monday, 14 February 2005 20:32 (8 years ago) Permalink

hawkwind - opa loka. the most motorik non kraut record ever.

whitey - two face.

spencer otm about jagz kooner.

― stirmonster, Monday, 14 February 2005 20:49 (8 years ago) Permalink

Wait! This is getting too scattered! Related but scattered! Definition time!

― don, Monday, 14 February 2005 21:25 (8 years ago) Permalink

I have a pretty rigid idea of motorik, so here goes:

4/4 time, basic rock bet, with snare on 2 & 4, HOWEVER, bass drum is playing exactly what the hi-hat does (ie, on each eighth note), except on the beats where the snare hits. It looks like this

1 & 2 & 3 & 4 &
h h h h h h h h
. . s . . . s .
b b . b b b . b

This is the beat of many Neu songs, including "Hallogallo". I think the bass drum playing on all those eigth notes is what separates motorik from a lot of other regular old 4/4 rock beats (fast, driving or otherwise).

― Dominique (dleone), Monday, 14 February 2005 21:46 (8 years ago) Permalink

whoa, that looked a lot better pre-post.

basically, the b's are supposed to line up w/the h's, and the s's are on 2 and 4. I hate the internet!

― Dominique (dleone), Monday, 14 February 2005 21:47 (8 years ago) Permalink

Pumpkins "1979" does not fit, right?

― Aaron A., Monday, 14 February 2005 21:50 (8 years ago) Permalink

not according to the definition I'm using above. It almost does, but in the drum figure of "1979", there's a syncopation pattern that de-motorikizes it (and also makes two bars have to pass before completing the figure). One of the things about motorik that makes it "motorik" (or robotic) is that each measure is identical, it doesn't take more than one measure to complete the whole pattern.

― Dominique (dleone), Monday, 14 February 2005 21:57 (8 years ago) Permalink

― chris andrews (fraew), Monday, 14 February 2005 22:15 (8 years ago) Permalink

hows that dleone

― chris andrews (fraew), Monday, 14 February 2005 22:15 (8 years ago) Permalink

nice. i wasn't sure at first, but that fits my mental definition.

― sleep (sleep), Monday, 14 February 2005 22:38 (8 years ago) Permalink

from what i can hear the kick falls on every 8th note, including the 2 and 4. just straight ahead pounding. with various snare fills and a crash or two every 4 or 8 measures off that.

― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Monday, 14 February 2005 22:41 (8 years ago) Permalink

"Drums On Fire" - Broadcast

― losingsoul, Monday, 14 February 2005 22:54 (8 years ago) Permalink

Jefferson Starship, "Find Your Way Back" (the end of the song)

― Joe (Joe), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 00:13 (8 years ago) Permalink

"For Kate I Wait" - Ariel Pink (done with mouth)

― The Argunaut (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 00:14 (8 years ago) Permalink

Telstar Ponies - Lugengeschichte or whatever the heck it was called has this beat but with added flourishes. Basically any non-Deutsche indie song circa 1994-95 with a German title.

― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 09:11 (8 years ago) Permalink

'Sleep The Clock Around' - Belle & Sebastian

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 09:17 (8 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

"Mongoloid" by DEVO. ?

― Helltime Product Oh, Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:07 (7 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

post more!

― kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 7 July 2006 14:54 (6 years ago) Permalink

The Glitter Band is the closest I've ever heard, so much so that I'm pretty sure La Dusseldorf ripped them off

― ¡Vamos a matar, Dadaismus! (Dada), Friday, 7 July 2006 15:00 (6 years ago) Permalink

Quite a lot of bubblegum too, e.g., "Gimme Gimme Good Lovin'" by Crazy Elephant

― ¡Vamos a matar, Dadaismus! (Dada), Friday, 7 July 2006 15:01 (6 years ago) Permalink

whitey - two face

yes this is a great one.

― hella somethin' Gwen Stefani pantwork (haitch), Friday, 7 July 2006 15:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

OOIOO - BE SURE TO LOOP
OOIOO - OIZUMIO

― Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Friday, 7 July 2006 15:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

Omoide Hatoba - White Hour

― Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Friday, 7 July 2006 15:26 (6 years ago) Permalink

Boredoms - Super Roots 7 (Boriginal)

― Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Friday, 7 July 2006 15:27 (6 years ago) Permalink

I can't remember which song it is, but one of the tracks offa Glenn Branca's Ascension certainly counts. It might be "Lesson #2."

― kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 7 July 2006 15:39 (6 years ago) Permalink

Lesson #1 counts

― Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Friday, 7 July 2006 15:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

Lesson #2 sounds like shit Sonic Youth

― Machibuse '80 (ex machina), Friday, 7 July 2006 15:44 (6 years ago) Permalink

that fantastic instrumental track on die sterne's 'posen' album, the name of which i've forgotten right now.

wow, this thread has given me much food for thought!

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Friday, 7 July 2006 16:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

Holger Hiller, Das Feuer

― ¡Vamos a matar, Dadaismus! (Dada), Friday, 7 July 2006 16:35 (6 years ago) Permalink

more motorik/'apache' (heh) talk: motorik

― hella somethin' Gwen Stefani pantwork (haitch), Friday, 7 July 2006 16:42 (6 years ago) Permalink

oh here it is, it's Glenn Branca's "Light Field (In Consonance)" off of Ascension.

Yeah, the Lesson #2 sounds like shit.

― kingfish du lac (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 7 July 2006 22:04 (6 years ago) Permalink

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A few people have mentioned the Gary Glitter beat, but that's a shuffle. Unless there was an actual motorik Gary Glitter song I don't know about, but I'm assuming people mean the R&Rpt2 beat.

― wk, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:30 (10 months ago) Permalink

yeah, too much stomping in that one.

― Stumpy Joe's Cafe (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:32 (10 months ago) Permalink

locomotorik

irl lol.

― Mafia-owned bar for transvestites (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:37 (10 months ago) Permalink

Yeah that shd be excelisor'd (by someone other than me)

― robert mcnamara in reverse (loves laboured breathing), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:42 (10 months ago) Permalink

I guess I don't understand people's obsession with this term. It's a nice way to describe a few Krautrock bands and bands who were influenced by them, but I don't see why it has to be applied to any song with a driving beat. And I really don't get the connection to songs that predate krautrock like Heroes and Villains.

― wk, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 16:43 (10 months ago) Permalink

One of the tracks on Yoko Ono & The Plastic Ono Band has Ringo laying down a pretty motorik groove. I don't have the record to hand. Rhythm section on that album amazing across the board.

― Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 17:27 (10 months ago) Permalink

The last 45 seconds or so of Turtle Turtle Up by Four Tet.

― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 14:46 (10 months ago) Permalink

It's kind of mental, you've got all these jazzy, glitchy drum rolls for about 90 seconds, and then it just falls into motorik loveliness.

― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 14:47 (10 months ago) Permalink

Orchestral Manoeuvers in the dark - Electricity

― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 5 July 2012 15:37 (10 months ago) Permalink

was listening to B-52's "Aint it a Shame" and that almost makes the cut, surprisingly...

― t. s. idiot (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 9 July 2012 14:02 (10 months ago) Permalink

2. [04:37] Velvet Underground - I’m waiting for the man (1967)

Totally disagree with this one. It doesn't have a backbeat at all, just a steady, even pulse on every beat.

― click here if you want to load them all (Hurting 2), Monday, 9 July 2012 14:15 (10 months ago) Permalink

Yeah it's not Motorik, but I can see a case for it being proto-Motorik. The insistent evenness I think is the key.

― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 9 July 2012 14:38 (10 months ago) Permalink

^yeah I agree with this post. "Waiting for the Man" is too much of an important first step, even though it probably predicts "It's a Rainy Day, Sunshine Girl" more than anything Neu! did

― t. s. idiot (loves laboured breathing), Monday, 9 July 2012 14:41 (10 months ago) Permalink

contemporary motorik beat: beak, the band of portishead's geoff barrow (btw they have a new album out). somehow i have the impression they bring something new to the table. they are obviously heavily influenced by neu etc, but they have their sound and lots of interesting ideas. the motorik beat is also played by the bass here.

― alex in mainhattan, Monday, 9 July 2012 21:53 (10 months ago) Permalink

― am0n, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:03 (10 months ago) Permalink

Can I nominate this as the post-speeding-down-the-autobahn version of the motorik, very definitely in an unexpected place (the very underrated Francisco's 'Cosmic Beam Experience')?

― Soundslike, Sunday, 15 July 2012 01:29 (10 months ago) Permalink

― dsb, Sunday, 15 July 2012 02:45 (10 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Beak! Bought >> and it is pretty awesome. It is just krauty grooves for the sake of it, seemingly, but oh wow.

― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 6 September 2012 16:52 (8 months ago) Permalink

^^ it is awesome

― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 6 September 2012 21:22 (8 months ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

Kraftwerk, "Ohm Sweet Ohm"

... could this be deliberate on their part?

― Tom D is secretly an important person (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 December 2012 11:58 (5 months ago) Permalink

― willem, Thursday, 13 December 2012 21:37 (5 months ago) Permalink

Portishead - Chase the Tear

― anonanon, Thursday, 13 December 2012 22:10 (5 months ago) Permalink

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