Black Sabbath: Classic or Dud?

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"Junior's Eyes" on Never Say Die rocks as well, dang it.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 28 October 2004 12:48 (nineteen years ago) link

It does, but I can't get over the synth onslaught.

Sasha on a different PC, Friday, 29 October 2004 00:48 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...

Please someone tell me they know the two songs on "The Ozzman Cometh" comp: "Black Sabbath" ('70 Basement Tapes) and "War Pigs" (1970 Basement Tapes).

Both of these songs are clear evidence that BIMBLE IS MORE GOTH THAN YOU.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 21 September 2008 04:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Um there's actually more than two basement tapes on that comp (if you get the 2xcd version). Don't forget the awesome versions of "Fairies Wear Boots" and "Behind the Wall of Sleep".

I love the production of those tunes and all the alternate lyrics and verses. Total godhead.

Nate Carson, Sunday, 21 September 2008 09:08 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah I will have to get the 2xCD version.

A goth's work is never done.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 21 September 2008 09:37 (fifteen years ago) link

is that "war pigs" the "walpurgis" version with the satan/witch themed lyrics? i love that.

REIGN IN FUDGE (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 21 September 2008 10:08 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah that's what it is, dude.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Sunday, 21 September 2008 17:14 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Moka, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link

That...

Just... No. Ugh.

novaheat, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 01:58 (fifteen years ago) link

<3 cindy und bert <3

cuisine of demise (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 03:36 (fifteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Dehumanize is good too people.

III IV V (Bo Jackson Overdrive), Monday, 6 April 2009 20:02 (fifteen years ago) link

heaven & hell did a dehumanizer song that was pretty good. i only knew it was dehumanizer because they put the cover to that album up on the big video screen

d20 riot tard (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 6 April 2009 20:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Probably Computer God. Maybe TV Crimes.

Bill Magill, Monday, 6 April 2009 20:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Back in 2007 Heaven and Hell played "After All (The Dead)", "Computer God", and "I"...the latter of which sounded really great. That song's held up very well.

A. Begrand, Monday, 6 April 2009 20:27 (fifteen years ago) link

I is definitely great. I don't know if they played Computer God at the Radio City show I was at.

Bill Magill, Monday, 6 April 2009 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

You've got to be kidding me.

http://www.reuters.com/article/peopleNews/idUSTRE54T00420090531

Advantage: Iommi.

Bill Magill, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 16:45 (fourteen years ago) link

The reaction on dffd and probably all the other boards was "Sharon Is A Cunt"

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link

that should infact be a poll

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link

poll w/ one option

鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link

im sure theres x-factor viewers on ILX who like her. but someone do it to find out!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link

You're it Herm, i have no idea how to do it.

Bill Magill, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link

you click on where it says new poll
http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/Poll/EnterPollInformationControllerServlet?boardid=41

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Instead of that, I'll just say that the vocals have always been the least important of the idea and ethos of what is "Black Sabbath". In Sabbath, it's:

mountain-moving guitar riffs and sound > thunderous but suprisingly agile rythym section >>>>>>>>> whoever the fuck is singing the lyrics the bassist wrote. Sorry Ozzy, but you now officially suck.

Bill Magill, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link

If as Ozzy alleges Iommi's trying to claim "ownership" of the Sabbath name, why would he be recording and touring as Heaven and Hell?

Plunge Protection Team, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Iommi bought the name from the others in the '90s, plus he copyrighted it in 2000. Game, set, match. Just cuz he's touring with another name doesnt mean shit, if you're implying he waived his rights.

Bill Magill, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 17:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Deciblog has a good take:

http://decibelmagazine.com/Content.aspx?ncid=306741

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link

from that
Posted 6/2/2009 2:13 PM by Senile Animal

Sharon Osbourne = Cunt!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 18:18 (fourteen years ago) link

holy shit, that statement by Ozzy. The brand was "literally in the toilet". Is this Kiss, who probably did sell toilets with the Kiss insignia, or Black Sabbath?

Bill Magill, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link

I doubt Ozzy can even go to the toilet without Sharon's permission/Help.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 18:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Somebody please shoot the man. Put him out of his misery.

Bill Magill, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 18:25 (fourteen years ago) link

By Request: Sharon Osbourne - Cunt Or Great?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 18:28 (fourteen years ago) link

I doubt Ozzy can even go to the toilet without Sharon's permission/Help.

Well, actually...

You want reality? Noticeably absent from the show's frequent mocking of Ozzy is any discussion of his bladder problems, which have long been legend in the rock world. The reason Oz continually dumps buckets of water on himself through his concerts is to mask the fact that he's peeing in his pants, according to some who are in the unenviable position to know. A friend of mine who once visited the Osbourne manse reports that Ozzy has a "special bathroom" whose walls are lined with rubber because his aim is so bad. Somehow, MTV's cameras have avoided showing us all that.

http://dir.salon.com/story/ent/music/feature/2002/07/16/ozzy/index.html

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 18:33 (fourteen years ago) link

ugh

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 2 June 2009 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link

DEROGAAATIIISSSSSS fistshake.gif

i'm too hardcore to be bourgeois (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 01:47 (fourteen years ago) link

As someone who, often as not, can't make it through a feature-length movie without running off to take a whiz at least once, I guess I admire Ozzy's dedication to holding the stage for an entire 2-3 hour show. There's a new TV ad out in which Ozzy pitches some manner of cell phone / mobile device / whatever the fuck you kids call it now in which he uses GPS to navigate his way to the w.c. in his own house which I will never look at the same again as a result.

Handsome Dan, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 07:29 (fourteen years ago) link

how classic is black sabbath?

i was driving to a gig on the far side of bali with a car full of teenage punk rock roadies, mostly between the ages of 16 and 18. punk rock kids, mind you, not metlaheads (punks not dead in bali) anyway i didn't want to bore them with dance music or hip hop so i threw on "best of black sabbath" hoping they'd dig it... and those fuckers knew every note of the album. not just the guitar solo in paranoid, i mean they were air drumming the fills on snowblind, singing along with symptom of the universe etc. i doubt they'd ever seen the osbournes either. black sabbath is not just classic in america and england but all the way to the far flung reaches of the globe (if not the universe) i mean the group broke up a decade before these kids were even born ffs!

thats how classic black sabbath is.

messiahwannabe, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 10:09 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRhZISswW_k

am0n, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Love that clip

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 18:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Always cool to see the moustache-less Iommi

Bill Magill, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:03 (fourteen years ago) link

he reminds me of greg ginn there. love the shot of geezer going nuts in his flares

am0n, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Geezer rules

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link

I was woken up this morning by the strains of Black Sabbath s/t coming from my house mate's bedroom. Pretty pleasant alarm really.

When I saw them live in '99, I cried. Stoked to see Heaven & Hell with Neurosis supporting in August.

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 8 July 2009 20:32 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

they're back! hurray?
After band members (most prominently Ozzy Osbourne) dropped hints of a possible reunion for at least a year, Tony Iommi confirmed that the original lineup of Black Sabbath has gotten back together and is planning an album and tour. Sabbath was last in the studio back in 2001, when work on a Rick Rubin-produced record stalled after Osbourne went to finish work on a solo album. In recent years, Iommi and Osbourne have battled over ownership of the Black Sabbath name, but that case was settled (with undisclosed terms) in 2010. "We're really looking forward to it and I think the stuff we’ve been writing is really good," Iommi said in an interview. "It's all been very hush-hush. Ozzy's been the worst at trying to hold it back. He's doing a lot of TV and he's being asked stuff about a reunion and he's going 'well I never say never'. He told me, 'I don't know what to say'."

tylerw, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:34 (twelve years ago) link

has any of those rubin session leaked?

are you ready for a thing called prog? (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

all i could dig up was this:

"scary dreams" from ozzfest 2001, supposed to be a part of those rubin sessions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=735w63a53nc

are you ready for a thing called prog? (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:40 (twelve years ago) link

how many lawyers will it take for this to happen?!

tylerw, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:56 (twelve years ago) link

And then again:

http://gunshyassassin.com/news/tony-iommi-shoots-down-black-sabbath-reunion-reports/

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 21:29 (twelve years ago) link

I couldn't believe all the metal sites & blogs assuming all these rumours were fact these last 18 hours or so.

A. Begrand, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 21:58 (twelve years ago) link

Lmao James

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 2 December 2022 15:40 (one year ago) link

That version of Iron Man is pretty awesome

his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Friday, 2 December 2022 19:18 (one year ago) link

two months pass...
one year passes...

Supernaut is their most funky

calstars, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 01:39 (one week ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/oKqx0Dd.jpeg
Was it illusion ???

calstars, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 01:42 (one week ago) link

Supernaut is their most funky

The Wizard, maybe. But Supernaut fucking kills.

the coda of Sympton of the Universe is a good candidate too, in fact that whole track is funky!

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 09:22 (one week ago) link

I dig the funkiness of "Behind the Wall of Sleep." They may have enough for a Funk Sabbath compilation.

Josefa, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:13 (one week ago) link

there's a compilation I have on Spotify made by Andrew Male called "Brown Sabbath" which is a selection of their acid-folk hippy trippy stuff

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:16 (one week ago) link

that's much better than what I thought it would be

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:19 (one week ago) link

haha indeed

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:21 (one week ago) link

Supernaut wins the Funk Sabbath contest through the cod-Latin section in the breakdown

the scouse that roared (Matt #2), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 13:27 (one week ago) link

there's a compilation I have on Spotify made by Andrew Male called "Brown Sabbath" which is a selection of their acid-folk hippy trippy stuff

― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, April 16, 2024 8:16 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

here's a link because this was surprisingly difficult to find for me

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5Oj4COp422cODysqXbEhK4

budo jeru, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:45 (one week ago) link

UMS i will A/B the two

budo jeru, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 14:52 (one week ago) link

thanks, should have posted the link!

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:12 (one week ago) link

xxxp nice, there's a lot of crossover between the playlists as you might expect

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:14 (one week ago) link

ha seems like we've hit a "infinite monkeys/typewriters" of black sabbath playlists with this

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:40 (one week ago) link

I thought there was a Brown Sabbath cover band doing Latin funk versions of songs. Were around a few years ago saw links to their material may have even got a set off Dime. Now wondering if that was what they were called. Latin and Black players who I thought were reworking Sabbath tracks among others

Stevo, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:53 (one week ago) link

Project of a band called Brownout

Stevo, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 15:55 (one week ago) link

Brown Sabbath is the name of that band, I thought it worked pretty well overall

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:13 (one week ago) link

And you could make a playlist maybe of the hooky psych power pop of the chorus of Looking for Today or the entirety Am I Going Insane

President of the Canadian Council of Bassoonists (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:21 (one week ago) link


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