― hstencil, Friday, 14 November 2003 07:05 (twenty years ago) link
― heywood jablomi (heywood), Friday, 14 November 2003 08:28 (twenty years ago) link
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 14 November 2003 11:59 (twenty years ago) link
― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 14 November 2003 12:01 (twenty years ago) link
I know that my copy of the LP (just coming out of the Colm-with-sampler track) had a pretty obvious pressing defect on it.
I'd speculate that what's happened here is KS has approached the material with fresh '00s ears and decided that it needed some serious re-EQing.
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 14 November 2003 12:15 (twenty years ago) link
About remasters of 90s CDs. If the remaster sounds better, then they must have done a real lousy job originally.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 14 November 2003 13:42 (twenty years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 14 November 2003 17:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Lynskey (Lynskey), Friday, 14 November 2003 17:39 (twenty years ago) link
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 14 November 2003 17:41 (twenty years ago) link
― Lynskey (Lynskey), Friday, 14 November 2003 17:46 (twenty years ago) link
Also also, mine fades out completely, albeit in an unorthodox manner.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 14 November 2003 17:53 (twenty years ago) link
I don't have the reissue, but the Creation pressing I have is probably the loudest recording I own, and is relatively clear (you know, all things considered). Although keep in mind my copy is on Creation, and your CD is on (and the Plain LP reissue would be licesened from) Sire, so the master tapes may vary somewhat.
― Funk, Friday, 14 November 2003 22:55 (twenty years ago) link
There's a lot of stuff that is simply hidden in the mix that you can't hear without absolutely blasting it. I fell in love with "Blown a Wish" again recently when I heard it being played extremely loudly over the PA at the North Six between sets. Then again, the DJ may have been using the remastered version, which would explain why I was hearing a lot I hadn't remembered hearing on a usual listen. Still...what a great song...what a perfect album.
― Girolamo Savonarola, Saturday, 15 November 2003 09:46 (twenty years ago) link
Like MJ's it has a pretty serious pressing defect, ie. the first track skips like a wee lass in a playground.
Perhaps I could solve the problem if I got hold of some... outboard gear and took it to the middle of a large reservoir.
― the pinefox, Saturday, 15 November 2003 15:00 (twenty years ago) link
― athos magnani (Cozen), Saturday, 15 November 2003 15:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Sunday, 16 November 2003 10:35 (twenty years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Sunday, 16 November 2003 12:38 (twenty years ago) link
― robin (robin), Monday, 17 November 2003 02:36 (twenty years ago) link
― the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 17 November 2003 02:41 (twenty years ago) link
Huh. Cuz all versions of "Isn't Anything" I've heard, vinyl especially, have sounded criminally quiet... which is extremely frustrating knowing that much of the music on that record gives you the impression it's the most monstrous sounding rock imaginable... "Feed Me With your Kiss", "You Never Should", etc.
― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 17 November 2003 02:51 (twenty years ago) link
― David Gunnip (David Gunnip), Monday, 17 November 2003 16:54 (twenty years ago) link
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Monday, 17 November 2003 19:25 (twenty years ago) link
― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 17 November 2003 19:30 (twenty years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Snappy (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 3 February 2005 21:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 4 February 2005 02:46 (nineteen years ago) link
I keep thinking about taking each track on this album and adding new bass and drums to it. But I guess I'm almost as lazy as Kevin?
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Friday, 4 February 2005 11:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 4 February 2005 11:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Friday, 4 February 2005 12:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Omar (Omar), Friday, 4 February 2005 18:39 (nineteen years ago) link
I know I have it on minidisc. I haven't seen it for some time though.
OK, the 2CD 'remaster' is out soon, maybe even now.
Someone post here: 1) What exactly is the difference between CD1 and CD2 (One's a remaster, and one's a remaster of the analogue original)
2) Which sounds better/different and how?
― Mark G, Sunday, 8 June 2008 09:55 (fifteen years ago) link
Speaking of the reissues, is this listing on Amazon.co.uk the same as that Japanese one that was linked somewhere here last year? If the box includes everything (I really want 'You Made Me Realise' on CD) then I'd be well worth the wait and the extra bucks.
― MacDara, Sunday, 8 June 2008 10:12 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.about--depression.info/Images/DepressionBlues.gif
― banriquit, Sunday, 8 June 2008 10:15 (fifteen years ago) link
the remaster was pushed back to the end of june
― akm, Sunday, 8 June 2008 13:32 (fifteen years ago) link
"You made me realise" is already on Cd.
― Mark G, Monday, 9 June 2008 08:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Um, hasn't it been deleted for years?
― MacDara, Monday, 9 June 2008 08:43 (fifteen years ago) link
I suppose. Is it that hard to get hold of?
― Mark G, Monday, 9 June 2008 08:49 (fifteen years ago) link
Amazon resellers have it starting from 50 quid sterling. I love it and all, but I don't love it that much.
― MacDara, Monday, 9 June 2008 10:51 (fifteen years ago) link
FIFTY QUID?
I don't even love my copy that much.....
― Mark G, Monday, 9 June 2008 11:16 (fifteen years ago) link
.. ebay's 'completed' sales has it gone for £42 on a 'buy it now' (i.e. first bidder got it), and £26 for the 12" version.
― Mark G, Monday, 9 June 2008 11:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Im hoping this remaster will sort out the flabby, lifeless bass frequencies on the original release, but I'm gussing we'll just get something with shitty brick-wall limiting turned up to the max.
I'd love to be proved wrong though.
― Chewshabadoo, Monday, 9 June 2008 11:29 (fifteen years ago) link
why 2 discs
― eman, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 05:00 (fifteen years ago) link
are there nerd fights over which version is better
― eman, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 05:01 (fifteen years ago) link
There will be.
― Telephone thing, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 06:30 (fifteen years ago) link
Next month, isn't it?
I wouldn't hope for new stuff, if even a re-release takes two years, and 8 months of delay.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 08:27 (fifteen years ago) link
There is an alleged leak up on What.cd. I haven’t given it much of a listen. But both versions mearly sounded louder on the brief comparison I made – if anything the bass was even more dull and muddy, and seeing as that was my biggest problem with the original vinyl and CD versions I stopped listening to it.
It could be a fake, but if it’s legit It is extremely disappointing
― Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 10:39 (fifteen years ago) link
I will add I was extremely impressed with the Isn’t Anything remaster job. That was A++
― Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 10:40 (fifteen years ago) link
Take a look here for the leak:
http://www.mybloodyvalentine.net/smf/index.php?topic=1245.0
― Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 10:44 (fifteen years ago) link
There's a FLAC version on page 4.
― Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 10:54 (fifteen years ago) link
I wouldn't be surprised if that is true, to a degree. What with being out of print for the last few years in anticipation of these remasters they have held a decent value whenever we have had them come in, either secondhand or as left over new stock.
― only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:27 (eleven years ago) link
Congratulations on your mail order krakow... truly spreading the Meronian word.
― Lil' Kim Philby (Call the Cops), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:49 (eleven years ago) link
Kiitos paljon! Thanks very much! A project born of obsession and love...
― only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 11:12 (eleven years ago) link
Is that actually true about the mislabelling?
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 13:30 (eleven years ago) link
I trust that dude, I have to say.
Maybe not all of them, I'll have to check mine (seems if one has a fuller fade out on "Soon", that's the analogue master)
― Mark G, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
I think that guy is the guy behind the New Order/Joy Division/Smiths reissues that have been discussed here, I think he knows his stuff.
― nate woolls, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:40 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, exactly.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 14:41 (eleven years ago) link
SO, will list to Loveless CD1 on the way home..
Funny, the e.p. set: First time I've seen a gatefold CD with absolutely nothing on the inside gatefold! (Open again, there's the e.p. covers)
― Mark G, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
I've been reading similar things about the mislabeling on other sites. Can't say I'm surprised at how they bungled this but it does seem to be common with remasters nowadays.
― skip, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 16:19 (eleven years ago) link
should start a thread re all these high profile remastering f*ck ups.
i recently picked up the special edition of the spandau ballet debut, and lo', that too is f*cked.
no bass at all. truly dreadful remastering.
then again, they did label the cds correctly.
― mark e, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link
No bass at all?!? Like... no bass part whatsoever or just no bottom end?
― btw didn't i braek ur heart (NickB), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
no bottom end.
check the reviews : http://www.amazon.co.uk/Journeys-Glory--Spec--Spandau-Ballet/dp/B0034GYAU8/ref=sr_1_9?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1336497581&sr=1-9
― mark e, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link
Alas poor Martin Kemp (was it remastered by Gary?)
― btw didn't i braek ur heart (NickB), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link
haha. no.seem to have read somewhere tis same bloke who messed up the recent duran remasters, but i can't be 100% certain.
― mark e, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link
the worst remastering/ mastering job i can think of is the Blur StarShaped DVD which is *legendarily* screwed beyond words. it's the only genuinely unlistenable DVD or CDi've ever owned.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link
I believe that was mastered from a VHS copy.
Anyways, I played CD1, it has the 'full fade' on Soon, which makes it a mislabel.
Mind you, the "CD1" and 2 markings are tiny so hey.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
Hey what's this? Got a good beat to it.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 22 September 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link
So, I gave them a listen and I don't think they really fixed the problems with Loveless and Isn't anything. I had heard people say before that Loveless on vinyl sounded amazing and the CD sounded like crap. I have always thought the recording was too tinny and not wide/full enough.
I thought the same thing about Jesus and Mary Chain's Psychocandy, but I think the remaster fixed this album and now it sounds great. I thought Sterelolab's Peng! remaster fixed that album up as much as possible, but the Loveless remaster doesn't do the trick -- in fact, it kind of goes in the other direction. Now, a lot of the vocals sound so separated from the noisy drone that it looses the effect of being behind a wall of sound.
― 3×5, Sunday, 23 September 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link
Yo, what Peng! remaster???
― gwenguthrie gwen ross (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 23 September 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
ha i just checked the mbv forum for the first time in a lil while: the thing that makes me laugh is how GREEDY everyone is. like there is the perpetual state of still-flickering optimism riding on whispers or occasional kevin shields interviews, but on top of that people are all trying to put DATES on it. like possibly November??. i guess if it really is almost finished then WE COULD HAVE IT LIKE STRAIGHT AWAY? also atm there is a post in which people are enthused by rumours about, 1., deadlines, i guess forgetting the grey sunlightened pencil deadline of 1994 on the wall of a now demolished studio, &, 2., that after recording is finished there would only, "only", ~only~, only be mixing to do. i mean it could be out in october if he just has to scribble mix my new album off his checklist. i am really not different from these people but the similarities between mbv fans & doomsday cults are so marginal.
― let's get the banned back together (schlump), Sunday, 23 September 2012 21:00 (eleven years ago) link
Peng remaster?
― svend, Monday, 24 September 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link
Discogs says reissue is 2008, but I can't see any mention of a remaster.
― Chewshabadoo, Monday, 24 September 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link