100 Reasons Why "Ignition - Remix" Is So Damned Great

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23) i played it at this party and everyone was juiced and all these punk rock girls sang along with the BUT SO WHAT IM DRUNK line!!

trife (simon_tr), Sunday, 15 June 2003 06:34 (11 years ago) Permalink

It occurs to me I've not heard this song.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 15 June 2003 07:32 (11 years ago) Permalink

24. He spreads the melodies through the lines, in fact he carries the flow of a particular harmony across a whole verse like... er..... Dose One, I guess.

nick.K (nick.K), Sunday, 15 June 2003 08:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I like the colour scheme in the video - it stood out on MTV

'thru ma 'fro' - wordplay. sweet.

s.r.w. (s.r.w.), Sunday, 15 June 2003 09:47 (11 years ago) Permalink

25. That synth line in the background of the chorus! It sounds like the Human League!

26. There's something about the production that sounds stripped down just enough so it seems to (cough) "bear the devices"--I'm thinking of the drum fills just before the chorus, and the aforementioned synth line, even the way he double-tracks his vocals ("Sippin' on coke and rum [rum]/I'm like so what I'm drunk [drunk]")....It's like each device calls a bit of attention to itself because the overall production is so sparse (by contemporary standards). Even the relatively langorous way he sings "bounce bounce bounce bounce bounce" (I take it she's bouncing very slowly) calls more attention to that word than a typical R&B/hiphop track where "bounce" would be one of a zillion instructions spit out in 20 seconds or less.

amateurist (amateurist), Sunday, 15 June 2003 10:20 (11 years ago) Permalink

27. The asides in the lyrics: "I'm like, 'So what...'"

28. The good grammar: "Food everywhere / as if the party was catered"

amateurist (amateurist), Sunday, 15 June 2003 10:22 (11 years ago) Permalink

29. I have to say this song fills me with a slight bit of hometown pride (I know someone who went to R. Kelly's high school! etc.) despite his rather foul offstage behavior. I picture R. hanging out at one of those massive Jackson Park BBQs with ragga blasting out of 10-ft-high amps.

amateurist (amateurist), Sunday, 15 June 2003 10:23 (11 years ago) Permalink

30. "I don' normally do this but, uh..."

amateurist (amateurist), Sunday, 15 June 2003 10:25 (11 years ago) Permalink

31. When in fact he does normally do this - unless there's some Ignition Mega-Mix 12" coming (we should all be so fortunate), Kelly is claiming that he doesn't normally release the remix at all, then saying he'll let you hear a little of it, and then just playing it.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 10:37 (11 years ago) Permalink

32. And, well - precisely: this is more of that quality Kelly brings to the table that has enabled him to stay strong at the cash register longer than many: it's the dreaded "A" word, you know, "authenticity," all the baggage that carries.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 10:39 (11 years ago) Permalink

33. Not the authenticity of "here's my soul," though that's in there, too, and more about it later. The authenticity of "here's what I got, seems good, I'm not gonna mess with it much more." The authenticity of sufficiency, not excellence. The authenticity of excellence is exactly why so many people vomit when other people start goin' on about authenticity.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 10:42 (11 years ago) Permalink

34. I'm like, so what, I'm drunk.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 10:42 (11 years ago) Permalink

35. But what we're going to have to come back to is what Nabisco brings up & it's where any hyperbole in which we've been engaging will really find its feet and start doing the Charleston. "WTF, why is R Kelly turning into Sam Cooke?" because R Kelly is Sam Cooke

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 10:46 (11 years ago) Permalink

36. OK I have to go to work now (it's a quarter 'til seven in the morning), everybody keep the reasons coming

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 10:46 (11 years ago) Permalink

Sam liked 'em young too. Hopefully R. will not share his ultimate fate however.

I'd like to hear R. get busy a capella like on the second track of Night Beat.

amateurist (amateurist), Sunday, 15 June 2003 10:49 (11 years ago) Permalink

I have to drive 8 hours today and I haven't slept a wink!

amateurist (amateurist), Sunday, 15 June 2003 10:49 (11 years ago) Permalink

37. YOu don't even need to own a copy to hear it all the time, just turn on the radio, or if you live in the city open the window.

nick.K (nick.K), Sunday, 15 June 2003 16:07 (11 years ago) Permalink

38. i dislike it profusely

stevem (blueski), Sunday, 15 June 2003 16:15 (11 years ago) Permalink

39. It makes me want to buy a shotgun.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 15 June 2003 16:16 (11 years ago) Permalink

40. stevem and Alex are...The No-Fun Brigade!*

*I have also expressed the same feelings about this song, but I was wrong.

Neudonym, Sunday, 15 June 2003 16:20 (11 years ago) Permalink

41. Because the video has a 360-degree shot of R.'s incredible braidwork, and a funny "white guy learns to dance" part, and shout-outs to dead homiez.

Neudonym, Sunday, 15 June 2003 16:22 (11 years ago) Permalink

don't get me wrong - i don't think its THAT bad, i just have no real feeling for it at all thats the problem. it doesn't excite me, it doesn't make me smile or anything. i wouldn't dance or wave a bottle of beer to it. thats not a flaw on my part or a flaw on the part of the song. JOhn makes good points about the track that i appreciate. and if you're able to ignore the fact that R Kelly is a complete tosspot then more power to you.

stevem (blueski), Sunday, 15 June 2003 16:36 (11 years ago) Permalink

I was a family counselor on Chicago's South Side for a couple of years, and heard a LOT of "R. Kelly being bad" stories (as well as "R. Kelly is a really generous and nice guy" stories) that had NOTHING to do with underaged girls or Hi-8 technology. And I guess I'm pre-disposed to not giving a shit about artists' personal lives when it comes to their music.

42. Because the entire first verse has been reconstructed to sound like it's a prelude to a song that then (once the chorus kicks in) suddenly exists.

Neudonym, Sunday, 15 June 2003 16:42 (11 years ago) Permalink

Actually, John, you are completely right about the Sam Cooke thing, now that I actually think about it (thanks), although it still takes me out of that particular song a little bit. Amateurist already hit the echo I like, but I would add that (a) the "bounce bounce bounce bounce bounce bounce bounce" sounds less like like casual dancing instruction and more like ballet, and (b) the "hot and fresh out the kitchen" brings out that good-time barbeque vibe something fierce, like this weekend fun is so wholesome that your mother's going to show up with some warm cornbread for everyone.

nabisco (nabisco), Sunday, 15 June 2003 16:43 (11 years ago) Permalink

43. r kelly does not sport a 'fro in the video

44. r kelly has never once sported a 'fro to my knowledge

45. does this mean he referring to hair, um, elsewhere than his head?

jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 16:44 (11 years ago) Permalink

I was a family counselor on Chicago's South Side for a couple of years, and heard a LOT of "R. Kelly being bad" stories (as well as "R. Kelly is a really generous and nice guy" stories) that had NOTHING to do with underaged girls or Hi-8 technology. And I guess I'm pre-disposed to not giving a shit about artists' personal lives when it comes to their music.

he struck me as a complete tosspot long before those stories emerged, for what its worth (apparently nada)

stevem (blueski), Sunday, 15 June 2003 16:52 (11 years ago) Permalink

46. The way the original "Ignition" seagues into the remix on Chocolate Factory

Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Sunday, 15 June 2003 17:11 (11 years ago) Permalink

stevem: just to clarify, I'm sure he IS a complete tosspot. but I don't really care when it comes to great singles.

Neudonym, Sunday, 15 June 2003 17:20 (11 years ago) Permalink

47. Toot toot.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Sunday, 15 June 2003 17:26 (11 years ago) Permalink

but I don't really care when it comes to great singles.

as another aside, i feel this IS the correct way to think about it...but still i doubt i will ever like the song.

stevem (blueski), Sunday, 15 June 2003 17:38 (11 years ago) Permalink

48. Beep beep.

Arthur (Arthur), Sunday, 15 June 2003 17:51 (11 years ago) Permalink

back around the time the album dropped, a few stations here would play the whole thing, original and remix, all in a row, as the 6-minute epic it is. i love both, but they really sound their best together.

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 15 June 2003 17:53 (11 years ago) Permalink

OK so after reading this fine thread I decided to download a copy of the track, and HOLY SHIT! knocked my socks off! I'd heard it before in various background-music environments but never paid attention/realized what it was. I think I'm in love.

I'm totally with #7. I love that he identifies the song as a remix--it's a song about itself!

s1utsky (slutsky), Sunday, 15 June 2003 17:54 (11 years ago) Permalink

49) The 'stirring dance'

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 15 June 2003 17:55 (11 years ago) Permalink

he's just demonstrating that it is indeed hot and fresh out the kitchen

Al (sitcom), Sunday, 15 June 2003 17:59 (11 years ago) Permalink

Exactly. Greatness.

Plus:

50) His green-and-white wristband.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 15 June 2003 18:07 (11 years ago) Permalink

I kiss all of you so much right now.

Cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 15 June 2003 18:30 (11 years ago) Permalink

51. The very second before a Hip Hop artist (with a huge 'fro') was about to go on stage came over and confessed his love for the track, knowing that I loved it. A memorable moment for me as it was a risky time, months before the anyone had broken cover and rhapsodised about it.

52. It doesn't sound like a 'real' song, rather some studio experiment, or album interlude.

nick.K (nick.K), Sunday, 15 June 2003 19:01 (11 years ago) Permalink

BUT i'd normally cross oceans to avoid kelly but i accidentally heard this tune in the megastore today and christ, it's brilliant for abt 43 of the reasons described above. i will now have to reappraise my entire life.

kieron, Sunday, 15 June 2003 19:04 (11 years ago) Permalink

53. ok I'm back

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 19:35 (11 years ago) Permalink

Wow. Brilliant thread, John. Somehow I haven't heard this song before just now, I just downloaded it because of this thread. (I listen to virtually no radio aside from WFMU these days, and I've never heard it on MTV or BET while channel surfing.) Thank you! It's a wonderful song.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Sunday, 15 June 2003 19:36 (11 years ago) Permalink

54. There's the sudden change in vocal tone in the chorus, right at "mama rollin' that body" - where R Kelly reveals himself to be not just a consummate soul singer, but a pretty clued-in one. Loop that damned line. "Mama rollin' that body": who's that? It's not Kelly. I mean it is him singing, but whose moves is he copping?

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 19:45 (11 years ago) Permalink

55. reggae, it's something reggae: dancehall specifically

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 19:45 (11 years ago) Permalink

56. Elephant Man? No, gentler

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 19:45 (11 years ago) Permalink

57. Ini Kamoze? No, that was what I thought, too, but no

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 19:49 (11 years ago) Permalink

yeah, I thought the same thing--but I can't really identify what artist

s1utsky (slutsky), Sunday, 15 June 2003 19:54 (11 years ago) Permalink

58. Oh Christ it's Shaggy, where the hell did that come from?

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 19:55 (11 years ago) Permalink

59. Would anybody who's not comfortable with having their contributions posted as part of my weekly Last Plane to Jakarta update please say so before the thread's over, thanks

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 19:56 (11 years ago) Permalink

60. Yes I am aware that technically speaking that last one is not a reason why "Ignition - Remix" is so damned great, and neither is this one for that matter

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 19:57 (11 years ago) Permalink

61. But hey, what can you do?

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 19:57 (11 years ago) Permalink

I saw Will Oldham and Matt Sweeney cover the original "Ignition" in 2004.

jaymc, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 17:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

It's not a bad song, but I've been disappointed when I've come across "Ignition" but not "Ignition (Remix)" in karaoke books.

jaymc, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 17:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

Almost disappointed that there was an "original", it'd be a bit KLF if it didn't though.

Will have to hear it.

Mark G, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 17:17 (1 year ago) Permalink

yeah I was DJ'ing for some kids one time early 2004 and I accidentally played the original version. they were like literally teenagers though so i think i cared more than they did.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 17:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

There was no "Sex In The Kitchen" (orig mix) though, was there?

( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 21:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

these songs are on platinum-selling albums guys, jeez

Doctor No Cassie (some dude), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 21:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

this is like when kids think the Jerry Lewis voice was originated by The Animaniacs

Doctor No Cassie (some dude), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 21:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

I feel sorry for anyone not familiar with the joys of "GIRL. I'M. READY. TO. TOSS. YOUR. SALAD." tbh

The Reverend, Wednesday, 23 January 2013 22:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

just remembered this topped Stylus' best-of-decade list three years ago.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 22:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

haha i knew al was gonna flip at that post

k3vin k., Wednesday, 23 January 2013 22:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

Okay, but there was no "Snake" (orig mix) though, was there?

( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Wednesday, 23 January 2013 22:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

乒乓, Sunday, 27 January 2013 05:28 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

times change :-(

caek, Saturday, 15 March 2014 23:22 (6 months ago) Permalink

you can't play this at a wedding anymore, right?

caek, Saturday, 15 March 2014 23:22 (6 months ago) Permalink

yeah the good old days when people were more willing to overlook that he had raped several girls...??

dyl, Saturday, 15 March 2014 23:59 (6 months ago) Permalink

jesus christ if you had to vet the personal history of every musician before playing their song at a fucking party.

acluelessdic (some dude), Sunday, 16 March 2014 00:31 (6 months ago) Permalink

Um a lot of ppl'd get off fine, this fuck wouldn't, boo fuckin hoo

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Sunday, 16 March 2014 01:32 (6 months ago) Permalink

wow this brings it back omg no wai etc

into the aerosmith, over the sea (Hunt3r), Sunday, 16 March 2014 02:08 (6 months ago) Permalink

sorry my post was a little harsh but that is the only difference between then and now that i can think of so i find it difficult to feel sad that i won't be hearing this at many weddings as a consequence

dyl, Sunday, 16 March 2014 05:13 (6 months ago) Permalink

I'd gladly support the creation of a "100 Reasons Why 'You Remind Me of Something' Is So Damned Great" thread

Frontier Psychiatrist, Sunday, 16 March 2014 09:38 (6 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

I'd be amazed if you could come up with more than 2

Neanderthal, Thursday, 3 April 2014 21:48 (5 months ago) Permalink

be amazed

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Friday, 4 April 2014 10:41 (5 months ago) Permalink


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