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John is nice guy and I only heard Talahasse once...but...ugh...ummm...

there's a whole lot of similes that connect romance to terrorism-kinda stuff but I don't recall any account of actual incidents that would explain why the relationship is LIKE terrorism. I'd kinda like to hear "you shot my cat, you bastard" next to "oh, you are like someone making a bomb" cuz it can kinda sound like zeitgeist exploitation. but the uptempo drummer on that one track was great idea! And I really usually listen to an album at least twice before talkin' about it, but it seems an opportune to bring it up (and it would look weird if everybody was ravin' wildly).

jesus, I gotta go die now. sorry. this wasn't easy for me, folks, so go easy on the flamebacks.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:18 (10 years ago) Permalink

Anybody flames you Anthony I got yer back :-)

(i.e. don't be sorry for heaven's sake we're all friends here)

In re: "a lot of terrorism similes" I must defend myself howevah: that's just one song as far as I know. And now I should stop reading this thread as it is in poor form indeed to participate in a discussion of one's own writing/music/whatevah

(quickly answering questions before scramming: I really want to go back to Dublin but there just won't be time which makes me really sad because I love Dublin a whole lot, no plans for any pre-Zopilote Machine reissues, hoping to come to Portland sometime this year, and the L.A. show is opening for Tortoise which is funny for a whole lotta reasons)

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:29 (10 years ago) Permalink

oh, and that's actually all I've heard. and that extra glenns leonard cohen cover. so don't take this as a "I've heard your work and I say nay! review." I'm damn ign'nt re: body of work but the zeitgeist thing was buggin' me.

I will give another listen and see if I have the same reaction.

Thanks for being a good sport. Whew!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:32 (10 years ago) Permalink

Like Lou Reed's New York done right but that doesn't mean I find time to listen that often. "Going to Georgia" is heartrending spectacular for sure though.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:38 (10 years ago) Permalink

Nadgers. Road Trip it is, then.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:38 (10 years ago) Permalink

The best-of-Mountain-Goats CD-R I made for a friend a few months ago goes:

1. Cubs in Five
2. Family Happiness
3. The Fall of the Star High School Running Back
4. Going to Port Washington
5. Going to Alaska
6. Going to Marrakesh
7. Golden Boy
8. No Children
9. Billy the Kid’s Dream of the Magic Slippers
10. Itzcuintli-Totzli Days
11. Neon Orange Glimmer Song
12. Anti-Music Song
13. Sept. 19 Triple X Love! Love!
14. No, I Can’t
15. Orange Ball of Hate
16. Are You Cleaning Off the Stone?
17. Standard Bitter Love Song #4
18. Standard Bitter Love Song #8
19. Love Cuts the Strings
20. Seed Song
21. Water Song
22. The Window Song
23. Jam Eater Blues
24. Two Thousand Seasons
25. The Best Ever Death Metal Band from Denton
26. The Sign

Douglas (Douglas), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:54 (10 years ago) Permalink

I really love All Hail West Texas!, The Coroner's Gambit and Zopilote Machine and like most of the others. I get really into them (him, whatever) and listen to nothing else for weeks, then not listen for quite a while.

Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Friday, 17 January 2003 01:57 (10 years ago) Permalink

"He's better than Bob Dylan!" Well, maybe not...

...and maybe yes. Though keep in mind my extremely non-canonical vision of Mr. Dylan. ;-)

the L.A. show is opening for Tortoise which is funny for a whole lotta reasons

Yes it is. The funniest of which will be me spraying the crowd with whipped cream and silly string before Tor-Twah take the stage to forcibly loosen them up and make them laugh. Then I'll do the same to the band.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 17 January 2003 02:14 (10 years ago) Permalink

You can hear an interview (including, I think, his cover of "The Sign") here:

http://www.bravenewwaves.ca/bnmedia/archive_i_mgoats.shtml

just this guy you know, Friday, 17 January 2003 02:37 (10 years ago) Permalink

I like the songs on All Hail West Texas a lot, but the sound quality is so shitty (I know, there's an aesthetic at work there) that I can't play any of it on the radio (there's an aesthetic there TOO), and that makes me mad.
How's the sound on the other stuff?

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 17 January 2003 03:23 (10 years ago) Permalink

Dude, Tortoise doesn't need Darnielle to laugh, that's the reason they had Kevin Drumm open for them on their last tour!

I have no further contribution to make to this thread.

hstencil, Friday, 17 January 2003 04:07 (10 years ago) Permalink

Tortoise fans can laugh? They must have learned from all the derisive snickering I direct towards 'em.

JS Williams (js williams), Friday, 17 January 2003 04:23 (10 years ago) Permalink

Naw they hired him so they could laugh. They could care less whether their fans do or not.

Okay, I'm swearing off this thread before I "bring the negativity" to Darnielle LoveFest '03.

hstencil, Friday, 17 January 2003 04:26 (10 years ago) Permalink

At the risk of embarrassing myself in front of the man himself, pretty much every release has great moments, & there's a lot of them. Guess I tend to lean towards the early (_Hot Garden Stomp_, _Hound Dog Chronicles_) & late (_Full Force..._, _Coroners..._) periods.

Live it's a lot of fun (even when kicked off stage & forced to play on the pavement outside the venue). Can't wait till the forthcoming UK gigs & SxSW show, 'cos it's been a long time.

Enough already.

Wondering Boy Poet, Friday, 17 January 2003 13:50 (10 years ago) Permalink

Wow, Mountain Goats John here, never knew.

Loved your cover of "I saw the Sign"

David Allen, Friday, 17 January 2003 14:37 (10 years ago) Permalink

Ned should spray the Tortoise fans with Faygo and scream "CLOWN LUV!!!!" over and over.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 17 January 2003 14:46 (10 years ago) Permalink

i feel dumb trying to post to this thread when mr d himself is around, but here goes all the same...

horace, mostly similar, but the newest album "tallahassee" has a much more polished full band and studio production, and there are surely songs on there that you could play on the radio. john peel gets away with it, anyway, but that may not seem any guarantee of radio-friendly production. (i wasn't sure i liked it as much as the other albums i have at first but it's really grown on me.)

i say YES to "cubs in five" and "best ever death metal band out of denton" and i note that "anti-music song" is on that best-of cdr and that i kind of like it myself and never thought it implied any real dislike of morrissey, whom i quite like, on john's part. i only have a few of the albums and i can't really pick a favourite out of them, they're all good.

, Friday, 17 January 2003 15:45 (10 years ago) Permalink

Ned should spray the Tortoise fans with Faygo and scream "CLOWN LUV!!!!" over and over.

That really would be the best thing that could ever happen to a Tortoise fan.

Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 17 January 2003 16:18 (10 years ago) Permalink

I only have one Moutain Goats song but I like it a lot. "The Last Day of Jimi Hendrix' Life" on a 'zine 7-inch. You keep waiting for some revelation but it turns out on that day all Jimi did was drink some water & hang around. I love that. I need to get some Mountain Goats, anyway.

Mark (MarkR), Friday, 17 January 2003 16:28 (10 years ago) Permalink

Ned should spray the Tortoise fans with Faygo and scream "CLOWN LUV!!!!" over and over.

I HAVE A VISION. I thank the Holy Prophet Dan for showing the way and Nicole for the encouragement.

[Likely enough I will simply do the honorable thing and leave after the Goats take their bow, thus beating the traffic -- assuming whoever I'm with wants to leave as well.]

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 17 January 2003 16:41 (10 years ago) Permalink

Aww, I would be happy to ship you the Faygo -- I think it is a worthy project.

Nicole (Nicole), Friday, 17 January 2003 23:23 (10 years ago) Permalink

raggy 2 dope

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 January 2003 23:35 (10 years ago) Permalink

unless you pronounce it "Ra-jay", Ned.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 January 2003 23:37 (10 years ago) Permalink

Nope. It's Irish not French, so you got it right.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 18 January 2003 04:13 (10 years ago) Permalink

saw them live in london at the ICA. I enjoyed it.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 18 January 2003 16:05 (10 years ago) Permalink

i hadn't realized how well known he was until this new album came out and there's reviews everywhere (fairly good write up in todays london times,for example,which suggests that the mountain goats could be this years flaming lips,in terms of crossover appeal)(a lot of people probably wouldn't see that as a compliment,but i was surprised that their profile was that high)
initially i heard of them and thought oh,that guy from ilx with that last plane to jakarta site has a band now?
i'm curious now,i must look into getting some of the stuff recommended upthread...

robin (robin), Saturday, 18 January 2003 16:25 (10 years ago) Permalink

Today's Times: The Mountain Goats: set to be this year's The Flaming Lips.

Cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 18 January 2003 22:17 (10 years ago) Permalink

my new fave band, as of two days ago! are any of the live shows floating around on soulseek worth getting?

toby (tsg20), Monday, 20 January 2003 08:51 (10 years ago) Permalink

i like the flashing lights song a lot

liz p. (lizjoydiv), Monday, 20 January 2003 08:59 (10 years ago) Permalink

So are the Mountain Goats going to have to retire "Cubs In Five" now that the Tampa Bay Bucs have, indeed, made it all the way to January?

God, I hope not.

mike a (mike a), Monday, 20 January 2003 14:56 (10 years ago) Permalink

CFBX 92.5 FM, 5 Watts
Kamloops, BC
Charts to January 31, 2003

3) Mountain Goats - Tallahassee (4AD)

Poppy (poppy), Saturday, 1 February 2003 23:26 (10 years ago) Permalink

from norman records-

4AD are going exactly the same way as original, life affirmingly INDEPENDENT allies Mute by signing pretty hopeless bands. If The Mountain Goats are the new Pixies then that pig really DID just fly past the window. More up Clint's street are these and even he thinks they're a bit pants. The band's new CD, 'Tallahassee' is out this week. Supposedly their 12th album, previous efforts have been on little US indies, this 4AD debut is average alt-country tinged lo-fi strum rock. Some might find some nuggets of gold up in them thar mountains but all I found were some old Yak droppings. Gorgeous packaging like but the words 'polish' and 'turd' spring to mind (again)....

keith (keithmcl), Sunday, 2 February 2003 00:20 (10 years ago) Permalink

John: Play Portland. Come play Portland. There are a bunch of us planning on driving down for the upcoming SF show but, really, it would be nice to see you without driving 9 hours... So, in summation, come play Portland.

Please.

Thank you.

Also, if you play Portland, please play "Golden Boy", as it would mean a lot to my roommate/bandmate, who sings it to her godson to get him to go to sleep, and is anyway one of your absolute best songs, even better than "Fresh Berries For You".

Chris P (Chris P), Sunday, 2 February 2003 04:17 (10 years ago) Permalink

Oh, and for the people wondering where to start: I say just go with All Hail West Texas! You'll love the first song and want to put it on a mix tape right away. Also there's a song on it called "Riches and Wonders" which will heart fall into your toes. And when the song is over, and you are a puddle of curious and hauting emotions on the floor, John will look up from the Panasonic and say, "Oh, you liked that one? Wait, let me play you this other song I just whipped off..." and then "The Mess Inside" will start playing and you will hate him for writing such beautiful songs and rubbing them in your face.

There. I am done being such a fanboy. Oh, except to note my friend's observation about how awkward it is to scream out "ABSOLUTE LITHOPS EFFECT!" as a concert request.

Chris P (Chris P), Sunday, 2 February 2003 04:23 (10 years ago) Permalink

MY favourite song of the ones i´ve heard yet is The Best Ever Death Metal Band from Denton and the cover of The sign have been on a lot of mixtapes.
I hope i don´t miss you when you play Sweden in like two weeks

Jens (brighter), Sunday, 2 February 2003 19:12 (10 years ago) Permalink

don't worry keith - Phil only seems to like electronica and krautrock..

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Sunday, 2 February 2003 22:36 (10 years ago) Permalink

actually I love the mountain goats records I have but the one song I heard fromt he new one sounded, worryingly, a bit like Live.

keith (keithmcl), Monday, 3 February 2003 01:36 (10 years ago) Permalink

What?! Any idea which song it was?

Chris P (Chris P), Monday, 3 February 2003 08:28 (10 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...
sssshhhhh, I'm trying to whisper it so J0hn can't hear me...I got Tallahassee about a week ago (my first MG purchase), and I love it. I would ask for more reccommendations, but I'll just follow the advice upthread. I also started reading Last Plane To Jakarta after he linked to that great Comets On Fire piece about PAs in shopping malls. Class.

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Saturday, 10 May 2003 14:04 (10 years ago) Permalink

I'm trying to whisper it so J0hn can't hear me

IS THIS SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH THE WHOLE CLASS, MR. NORDIC?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 May 2003 14:24 (10 years ago) Permalink

I love jOhn, but is it official I'm the only Ilxor who's actively admitted they're not really a big Mountain Goats fan yet?

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 10 May 2003 16:17 (10 years ago) Permalink

I really enjoy Last Plane to Jakarta, and I really enjoy Tallahassee. I need more mtn goats. More old stuff with tape hiss. Where can I gat some?

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 10 May 2003 16:30 (10 years ago) Permalink

http://www.3bos.com is one place with the three comps of hissy compilation, cassette, etc tracks.

jack cole (jackcole), Saturday, 10 May 2003 16:51 (10 years ago) Permalink

I love jOhn, but is it official I'm the only Ilxor who's actively admitted they're not really a big Mountain Goats fan yet?

i was a pretty big fan in high school with a couple tapes, an lp and a cd but i haven't had much of an urge to listen to any of it in at least four or five years and haven't heard anything since sweden or nothing for juice.

i still get a little thrill when i see j*hn's name come up on a thread though. feels like hollywood.

brian badword (badwords), Saturday, 10 May 2003 22:20 (10 years ago) Permalink

psst--don't tell anyone, but I'm going to see TMG for the first time when he opens for Lifter motherfucking Puller June 6 in Minneapolis (am attending all three LP shows thankyouverymuch). I hope he doesn't bash me over his head w/his guitar for calling him a terrorist on MTV2.

M Matos (M Matos), Saturday, 10 May 2003 22:24 (10 years ago) Permalink

I suppose if I want to see that show I should go get in line right now. Advance tickets are sold out already.

Dan I., Saturday, 10 May 2003 22:58 (10 years ago) Permalink

And you know people are seriously going to come from all over the country and stuff. damn lifter puller and all their post-mortem press!

Dan I., Saturday, 10 May 2003 22:59 (10 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...
i wonder if we'll ever get to hear the "behind the music" story of rachel...

this is all i know: perfect harmony, great bassplaying, takes the lead on "going to queens".

also what reggae song is the snippet from the beginning of "sept 19 triple x love! love!" from?

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 15 August 2003 18:54 (9 years ago) Permalink

ha ha TS: TMG vs. TMBG!!!!

(ps J0hn somehow I hadn't heard this stuff for long time but am now the proud owner of All Hail West Texas which is friggin fabulous and really helped me not feel like a reanimated corpse yesterday morning)

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 15 August 2003 19:06 (9 years ago) Permalink

yes, I am an ass.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 15 August 2003 19:12 (9 years ago) Permalink

(he didn't think the sunset tree succeeded, I don't know what to say about that.)

I was surprised he only gave it an honorable mention originally, but he slapped into the dean's list at the end of the year so his opinion must have improved over the year.

da croupier, Monday, 12 November 2012 02:13 (6 months ago) Permalink

DQ onion rings were never too popular at my location. Most customers preferred to offset the heaviness of their chicken strip basket with a delicate combo of an extra gravy tub, mayo for the fries, and an oreo blizzard.

Eccsame the Photon Guys (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 12 November 2012 02:13 (6 months ago) Permalink

my tastes are not unlike xgau in re all this stuff (shocking), though my two Pick Hits are Sunset and Healed rather than Healed and Tallahassee

da croupier, Monday, 12 November 2012 02:16 (6 months ago) Permalink

I checked into a bargain priced room on La Cienega,
gazed out through the curtains of the parking lot.
walked down to the Dairy Queen just before nightfall in my bare feet.
black tarry asphalt, soft and hot.
and when I came back I spread out my supplies.
on the counter by the sink,
I looked myself right in the eyes

an extra tub of gravy,
mayo and fries,
and you or your memory (stares at empty blizzard cup)

Eccsame the Photon Guys (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 12 November 2012 02:28 (6 months ago) Permalink

Tallahassee / We Shall All Be Healed / The Sunset Tree is as brilliant a run of albums as any in the previous decade.

Room 227 (cryptosicko), Monday, 12 November 2012 02:56 (6 months ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Saw my first Mountain Goats show tonight. It was very good, and sweet baby Jesus does "This Year" rule with the added horns. When I told John that at the merch table he said it was new to this leg of the tour, so I'm glad to be on this second go round.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 5 December 2012 05:15 (5 months ago) Permalink

The Diaz Brothers has been lodged in my head for the better part of a month and shows no signs of leaving any time soon. That is one catchy chorus.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 7 December 2012 05:49 (5 months ago) Permalink

Awww:

http://twitpic.com/bm9mv8

etc, Saturday, 15 December 2012 22:55 (5 months ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

The Diaz Brothers is still stuck in my head. It is the catchiest song in years. Holy moley. How come more people aren't singing its praises?

kornrulez6969, Sunday, 30 December 2012 05:01 (4 months ago) Permalink

I dunno, I still haven't heard the new album, but did you catch that there is a whitehouse.gov position to make JD our next poet laureate?

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/recognize-mountain-goats-and-name-john-darnielle-us-poet-laureate/4X2y05sH

I've been thinking about starting a counter-petition to nominate David Berman.

how's life, Sunday, 30 December 2012 13:29 (4 months ago) Permalink

Do you have to be an American citizen to sign a White House petition?

Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 2 January 2013 03:05 (4 months ago) Permalink

t's easy to get lots in the shoots and ladders game of his many characters

o rly

Solange Knowles is my hero (DJP), Thursday, 10 January 2013 01:18 (4 months ago) Permalink

gf was watching New Girl and I was convinced Zooey's boyfriend was being played by Jon Wurster

Binder, Binder & (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 10 January 2013 03:53 (4 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

This is neat. 1 minutes worth of a video for 'Wild Sage' made by Rian Johnson. Its really good but a shame it wasnt finished.

http://rcjohnso.tumblr.com/post/43268810808/back-in-2006-when-we-shot-the-woke-up-new-music

you're going home in a crispy ambulance (cajunsunday), Sunday, 17 February 2013 19:26 (3 months ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

For those of y'all who don't also have the Bieber thread bookmarked

http://pitchfork.com/news/49873-watch-john-darnielle-defends-justin-bieber-lectures-paparazzi-in-song/

Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 03:48 (2 months ago) Permalink

the amazing thing about this guy is how prolific of a musical career he's already had by the tender age of 31.

how's life, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 08:24 (2 months ago) Permalink

i like that mode for john d

the 'dirty sprite' is implied (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 19:40 (2 months ago) Permalink

There's a nice clean non-live version of You Were Cool at the end of his WTF btw

( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 21:26 (2 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

930 Club show sold out before I bought a ticket. Oh well, have seen 'em/him before.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 1 May 2013 14:14 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Transcendental Youth is so good. Love the horns and also the cover art is my favorite yet for a mountain goats record.

rock 'em sock 'em (Treeship), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 14:19 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

dunno if this has been mentioned upthread but "Steal Smoked Fish" and "Western Hills", from the bonus 7"/subsequent digital release, are both outstanding, especially if you feel like crying and/or resent the variety of instrumental textures on recent tMG albums

Excelsior twilight. Harpsichord wind through the trees. (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 14:23 (2 weeks ago) Permalink


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