rolling "Is This Racist?" thread

Those are 100% shops, there's no way the print on the ads would be that crisp and bright when everything else is faded. I mean, has it been that long since you guys have seen a real newspaper?

ive seen pixels etc

http://www.bizcommunity.com/Article/196/12/63079.html

Okay, at least someone, somewhere along the line must have questioned this article headline, right?

http://fastcache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2011/08/576x324_vickwhite_01.jpg

just to clarify, if they had photoshop blackfaced Tom Brady I'm sure a lot of people would have a problem with it

OH MY GOD

how is this guy still around?

uhhh what exactly is bannable about that in the rolling "Is This Racist?" thread

i'd hate to see what happens to you when you get exposed to any other areas of the internet

Its just that you are constantly bringing up race in the worst possible ways. You do know how ridiculous the "but you know if a white guy did this it would be bad, right?" line of argument is right?

i'd hate to see what happens to you when you get exposed to any other areas of the internet

― frogbs, Thursday, August 25, 2011 4:45 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark

so your defense is basically "just bringing you a lil bit of that 4chan experience, right here on ilx! *winks at the camera*"

explain the context of vickwhite.jpg to me

The 4Chan Experience has an EP coming out on XL, right

http://deadspin.com/5834454/espn-the-magazine-decides-that-michael-vick-is-white-again xp

frogbs walks up to a random person and hits him in the knee with a tire iron. the person, crumpled on the ground, writhing in pain, looks up at frogbs and says, "WHAT THE FUCK, MAN????". frogbs responds, "jeez, i'd hate to see what happens when you get exposed to the russian mafia"

more correctly http://espn.go.com/espn/commentary/story/_/id/6894586/imagining-michael-vick-white-quarterback-nfl-espn-magazine xp

ok, there's no way that's the "worst possible way", that's not even close to the worst thing that can be said about that picture. but yeah that's a pretty standard line of thinking. i thought exploring the differences between how certain races are treated in the media was kinda the point of this thread?

explain the context of vickwhite.jpg to me

was posted on ESPN the magazine

so your defense is basically "just bringing you a lil bit of that 4chan experience, right here on ilx! *winks at the camera*"

stop being stupid, why the hell should I defend myself for suggesting there's no way in hell they'd reverse the roles here

Remember that time everyone thought Arnold Schwarzeneggar and Val Kilmer's love child killed his wife and a waiter?

http://thislooksshopped.com/images/simpson_wired.jpg

i'm not saying that you shouldn't, i'm just saying that defending yourself in any fashion by saying "jeez you must really hate the COMPLETE racist trolls on the internet" is prob not helping your case

xp

anyway i don't think we need to go over why blackface is offensive and whiteface is really not, but ymmv

explain the context of vickwhite.jpg to me

my first thought was that that was a manequin of Brian Austin Green in a football uniform

no but reacting to something like that with "OH MY GOD HOW ARE YOU STILL HERE" raises a couple of eyebrows and kinda explains why the IA thread is like 500000 posts

anyway i don't think we need to go over why blackface is offensive and whiteface is really not, but ymmv

so exactly where are you drawing the line here. is it offensive to photoshop someone as Chinese, for instance? or just any race but white?

How is it not 51 yet?

it's really too bad you can't sb from zing touch

jon you really are the worst

so exactly where are you drawing the line here. is it offensive to photoshop someone as Chinese, for instance? or just any race but white?

racial politics are a continuum, there's no "one size fits all" policy. historical power dynamics are involved.

why am I bothering...

i...need to stop doing this, but frogbs are you saying that brian austin green mike vick is offensive to white people somehow?

there is that painful centuries-long tradition of depicting white men with goatees i guess

hmm

they BAG'ed Michael Vick

maybe that's what that line in "Bedrock" was talking about?

brian austin green mike vick!

so exactly where are you drawing the line here.

It's behind you.

frogbs thinks I'm the worst, feel like I should get a badge to wear with pride or something

i...need to stop doing this, but frogbs are you saying that brian austin green mike vick is offensive to white people somehow?

actually I kinda think it may be more offensive to black people

okay, then you didn't need to frame it in opposition to blackface

racial politics are a continuum, there's no "one size fits all" policy. historical power dynamics are involved.

why am I bothering...

well, yeah, I'm just wondering if a national publication bringing up this sort of thing at all is just in bad taste even if the image itself isn't really going to offend anyone. they've already taken it off their website and the author of the article is going nuts on twitter trying to distance himself from it.

I would sb espn the magazine too if I could fwiw

so your defense is basically "just bringing you a lil bit of that 4chan experience, right here on ilx! *winks at the camera*"

or like, literally any other message board but this one

so exactly where are you drawing the line here. is it offensive to photoshop someone as Chinese, for instance? or just any race but white?

do you really not get it or do you just like it when people call you stupid? do you not recognize that in every context we'll likely be discussing, white people stand in a position of distinct advantage with respect to power dynamics? do you not see how that renders all your "how come it's offensive this way but not that way?" framings might seem remarkably stupid in light of said dynamics? dude seriously. just go fucking study this stuff someplace. it isn't hard.

okay, so basically, "its okay to clown people if they have the power advantage over you"

i mean, you do understand that that really wasn't my point at all, and that i'm not arguing that whiteface is offensive to white people for whatever reason. and of course, you can and have taken liberties yourself to try and make me look dumb, but I'm not saying "how does this relate to white people" there at all, I mean I know it sorta ruins your diatribe there but seriously, even you can think of some scenario in which this dynamic doesn't really exist, can't you? i'm saying the idea of photoshopping any race into any other race is something that probably shouldn't be done on a national stage since it really does call these issues to mind and is going to be looked upon poorly even if the general concept of picturing Vick as a white guy isn't going to ruffle any feathers.

Guys, what if frogbs was black.

Thnk about it.

just to clarify, if they had photoshop blackfaced Tom Brady I'm sure a lot of people would have a problem with it

― frogbs, Thursday, August 25, 2011 4:39 PM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark

so exactly where are you drawing the line here. is it offensive to photoshop someone as Chinese, for instance? or just any race but white?

― frogbs, Thursday, August 25, 2011 5:10 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark

do you see how if you post the above, your rhetoric sounds a lot like trolling "how come it's only okay to call out racism against black people" stuff, right? add that to your posting history. honestly, your language when you post about race itt is vague and sounds like you're uncomfortable and confused: "certain races" "call these issues to mind" and if you're not trolling, i think aero is right and you should maybe just learn some more.

even you can think of some scenario in which this dynamic doesn't really exist, can't you?

what dynamic are you referring to here?

What if frogbs was black... in my vagina?

Do you really want me to go into detail there? If we asked, what if Ichiro was from the Dominican Republic, and then photoshopped him as such, what would the response be? It sounds like racist trolling because that's what you've conditioned yourself to think.

smdh at frogbs getting into the exact same tizzy every single week and then going all "what? what did I do?"

it sounds like racist trolling because it's rhetoric one million racist trolls have employed before

It sounds like racist trolling because that's what you've conditioned yourself to think.

― frogbs, Thursday, August 25, 2011 5:40 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

i'm glad that we've entered the full OPEN YOUR EYES, SHEEPLE portion of the thread