my point is just that we know that the internet is terrible, we don't need it to be solemnly pointed out that people are racist
― J0rdan S., Saturday, July 23, 2011 3:48 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― schmendrick lamar (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 22:44 (twelve years ago) link
those surf ads are obvious shops right?
― beth (crüt), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 22:47 (twelve years ago) link
I think it's real.
― Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 22:52 (twelve years ago) link
the text does not line up with the margins of the page and looks like someone just typed it directly on the image
― beth (crüt), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 22:54 (twelve years ago) link
Those are 100% shops, there's no way the print on the ads would be that crisp and bright when everything else is faded. I mean, has it been that long since you guys have seen a real newspaper?
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 22:54 (twelve years ago) link
ive seen pixels etc
― (gr8080), Tuesday, 23 August 2011 23:02 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.bizcommunity.com/Article/196/12/63079.html
― Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 23 August 2011 23:16 (twelve years ago) link
Okay, at least someone, somewhere along the line must have questioned this article headline, right?
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 25 August 2011 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
http://fastcache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/11/2011/08/576x324_vickwhite_01.jpg
― frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 20:38 (twelve years ago) link
just to clarify, if they had photoshop blackfaced Tom Brady I'm sure a lot of people would have a problem with it
― frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 20:39 (twelve years ago) link
OH MY GOD
how is this guy still around?
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 25 August 2011 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
uhhh what exactly is bannable about that in the rolling "Is This Racist?" thread
i'd hate to see what happens to you when you get exposed to any other areas of the internet
― frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 20:45 (twelve years ago) link
Its just that you are constantly bringing up race in the worst possible ways. You do know how ridiculous the "but you know if a white guy did this it would be bad, right?" line of argument is right?
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 25 August 2011 20:55 (twelve years ago) link
― frogbs, Thursday, August 25, 2011 4:45 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark
so your defense is basically "just bringing you a lil bit of that 4chan experience, right here on ilx! *winks at the camera*"
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 August 2011 20:57 (twelve years ago) link
explain the context of vickwhite.jpg to me
― little mushroom person (abanana), Thursday, 25 August 2011 20:58 (twelve years ago) link
The 4Chan Experience has an EP coming out on XL, right
― now I have to imagine your penis (DJP), Thursday, 25 August 2011 20:58 (twelve years ago) link
http://deadspin.com/5834454/espn-the-magazine-decides-that-michael-vick-is-white-again xp
― zvookster, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:00 (twelve years ago) link
frogbs walks up to a random person and hits him in the knee with a tire iron. the person, crumpled on the ground, writhing in pain, looks up at frogbs and says, "WHAT THE FUCK, MAN????". frogbs responds, "jeez, i'd hate to see what happens when you get exposed to the russian mafia"
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:00 (twelve years ago) link
more correctly http://espn.go.com/espn/commentary/story/_/id/6894586/imagining-michael-vick-white-quarterback-nfl-espn-magazine xp
― zvookster, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:01 (twelve years ago) link
ok, there's no way that's the "worst possible way", that's not even close to the worst thing that can be said about that picture. but yeah that's a pretty standard line of thinking. i thought exploring the differences between how certain races are treated in the media was kinda the point of this thread?
― frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:01 (twelve years ago) link
was posted on ESPN the magazine
― frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:02 (twelve years ago) link
stop being stupid, why the hell should I defend myself for suggesting there's no way in hell they'd reverse the roles here
Remember that time everyone thought Arnold Schwarzeneggar and Val Kilmer's love child killed his wife and a waiter?
http://thislooksshopped.com/images/simpson_wired.jpg
― Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:05 (twelve years ago) link
i'm not saying that you shouldn't, i'm just saying that defending yourself in any fashion by saying "jeez you must really hate the COMPLETE racist trolls on the internet" is prob not helping your case
xp
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:05 (twelve years ago) link
anyway i don't think we need to go over why blackface is offensive and whiteface is really not, but ymmv
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:06 (twelve years ago) link
my first thought was that that was a manequin of Brian Austin Green in a football uniform
― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:08 (twelve years ago) link
no but reacting to something like that with "OH MY GOD HOW ARE YOU STILL HERE" raises a couple of eyebrows and kinda explains why the IA thread is like 500000 posts
― frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:08 (twelve years ago) link
so exactly where are you drawing the line here. is it offensive to photoshop someone as Chinese, for instance? or just any race but white?
― frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:10 (twelve years ago) link
How is it not 51 yet?
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:12 (twelve years ago) link
it's really too bad you can't sb from zing touch
― Clay, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:13 (twelve years ago) link
jon you really are the worst
― frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:14 (twelve years ago) link
racial politics are a continuum, there's no "one size fits all" policy. historical power dynamics are involved.
why am I bothering...
― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:14 (twelve years ago) link
i...need to stop doing this, but frogbs are you saying that brian austin green mike vick is offensive to white people somehow?
― horseshoe, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:14 (twelve years ago) link
there is that painful centuries-long tradition of depicting white men with goatees i guess
― horseshoe, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:15 (twelve years ago) link
hmm
they BAG'ed Michael Vick
maybe that's what that line in "Bedrock" was talking about?
― now I have to imagine your penis (DJP), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link
brian austin green mike vick!
― zvookster, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link
so exactly where are you drawing the line here.
It's behind you.
― arch midwestern housewife named (Laurel), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link
frogbs thinks I'm the worst, feel like I should get a badge to wear with pride or something
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:17 (twelve years ago) link
actually I kinda think it may be more offensive to black people
― frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:17 (twelve years ago) link
okay, then you didn't need to frame it in opposition to blackface
― horseshoe, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:18 (twelve years ago) link
racial politics are a continuum, there's no "one size fits all" policy. historical power dynamics are involved.why am I bothering...
well, yeah, I'm just wondering if a national publication bringing up this sort of thing at all is just in bad taste even if the image itself isn't really going to offend anyone. they've already taken it off their website and the author of the article is going nuts on twitter trying to distance himself from it.
― frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:19 (twelve years ago) link
I would sb espn the magazine too if I could fwiw
― Clay, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:19 (twelve years ago) link
or like, literally any other message board but this one
― frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:23 (twelve years ago) link
do you really not get it or do you just like it when people call you stupid? do you not recognize that in every context we'll likely be discussing, white people stand in a position of distinct advantage with respect to power dynamics? do you not see how that renders all your "how come it's offensive this way but not that way?" framings might seem remarkably stupid in light of said dynamics? dude seriously. just go fucking study this stuff someplace. it isn't hard.
― pathos of the unwarranted encore (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:23 (twelve years ago) link
okay, so basically, "its okay to clown people if they have the power advantage over you"
i mean, you do understand that that really wasn't my point at all, and that i'm not arguing that whiteface is offensive to white people for whatever reason. and of course, you can and have taken liberties yourself to try and make me look dumb, but I'm not saying "how does this relate to white people" there at all, I mean I know it sorta ruins your diatribe there but seriously, even you can think of some scenario in which this dynamic doesn't really exist, can't you? i'm saying the idea of photoshopping any race into any other race is something that probably shouldn't be done on a national stage since it really does call these issues to mind and is going to be looked upon poorly even if the general concept of picturing Vick as a white guy isn't going to ruffle any feathers.
― frogbs, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:30 (twelve years ago) link
Guys, what if frogbs was black.
― Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:32 (twelve years ago) link
Thnk about it.
― frogbs, Thursday, August 25, 2011 4:39 PM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark
― frogbs, Thursday, August 25, 2011 5:10 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark
do you see how if you post the above, your rhetoric sounds a lot like trolling "how come it's only okay to call out racism against black people" stuff, right? add that to your posting history. honestly, your language when you post about race itt is vague and sounds like you're uncomfortable and confused: "certain races" "call these issues to mind" and if you're not trolling, i think aero is right and you should maybe just learn some more.
― horseshoe, Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:35 (twelve years ago) link
even you can think of some scenario in which this dynamic doesn't really exist, can't you?
what dynamic are you referring to here?
― satisfying punishment for that thing he said about lesbians (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:36 (twelve years ago) link
What if frogbs was black... in my vagina?
― Vaginalogue Bubblebath (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 25 August 2011 21:39 (twelve years ago) link