2008 Primaries Thread

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literally the most terrifying .jpg on the internet

J0rdan S., Saturday, 5 January 2008 20:44 (sixteen years ago) link

like, romney rectal examination> tubgirl> goats> 2girls1cup

J0rdan S., Saturday, 5 January 2008 20:44 (sixteen years ago) link

goatse, even.

J0rdan S., Saturday, 5 January 2008 20:44 (sixteen years ago) link

That WP article is mostly about Huckabee (and, to a lesser extent, Edwards). And, in that regard, George Will is a Madisonian ''establishment GOP'' hack (i.e., for free markets and limited gov't; not an evengelical). A smart, articulate hack, to be sure, but a hack nonetheless.

-- Daniel, Esq., Saturday, January 5, 2008 12:41 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Link

oh im fully aware of that; even though that article is 'mostly about' huckabee, those points are the most redundant in the discourse right now. The more interesting parts to me are his take on the dem candidates, and i think he really gets right to the point about what is grating about edwards (in the larger sense, i'm not about to get into his specific economic points and easy dismissal of corporations as the root of all evil)

deej, Saturday, 5 January 2008 20:54 (sixteen years ago) link

daniel, esq 2008 = kingfish 2004

haha, thank God somebody else is there to dump links everywhere. There's no way i'm going back to heavy blog reading, due to anxiety levels and current non-desk-based job.

Altho, fun comment on Balloon-Juice about how when the BSRW machine comes about to aim at Obama, you just know they're going to start whispering about how he secretly fathered two black daughters.

kingfish, Saturday, 5 January 2008 21:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Further confirmation of the biiiiig Iowa bump this poll conducted yesterday and today has Obama beating Clinton by 12 points in NH.

Hatch, Saturday, 5 January 2008 21:29 (sixteen years ago) link

What is Wisconsin and why is it so unimportant?

Gravel Puzzleworth, Saturday, 5 January 2008 21:44 (sixteen years ago) link

What is Wisconsin? That is one of the greatest American mysteries.

Rock Hardy, Saturday, 5 January 2008 21:54 (sixteen years ago) link

O_O @ poll

J0rdan S., Saturday, 5 January 2008 21:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Obama: Ecstasy & Agony [Jonah Goldberg]

This is just a late Friday night prediction. But after reading this regrettable excess from Ezra Klein as well as all of the more reasonable but nonetheless hopeful, proud, idealistic and sincere sentiments of pride and well-wishing for Obama as the first serious mainstream black contender for the White House (some, but by no means all, of these sentiments shared by yours truly) , I think it's worth imagining a certain scenario. Imagine the Democrats do rally around Obama. Imagine the media invests as heavily in him as I think we all know they will if he's the nominee — and then imagine he loses. I seriously think certain segments of American political life will become completely unhinged. I can imagine the fear of this social unraveling actually aiding Obama enormously in 2008. Forget Hillary's inevitability. Obama has a rendezvous with destiny, or so we will be told. And if he's denied it, teeth shall be gnashed, clothes rent and prices paid.

01/04 09:14 PM

and what, Saturday, 5 January 2008 21:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Obama's up by 12 in New Hampshire? Wow. There are waves and there are waves. Implications: (a) HRC better recover fast, while there's time and (b) I hope Obama's momentum draws off lots of independent votes, so that -- on the GOP side -- Romney beats McCain, to crush McCain's supposed "momentum."

I wonder how Obama's big lead will impact independents. Will they jump on his bandwagon or, realizing that he's going to win the Democratic N.H. primary anyway, do they vote Republican, where they have more of a chance to impact the nat'l race (presumably by making McCain viable)? Any information on how independents will vote in N.H.?

Hatch, your WFMU show is v. good, btw.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 5 January 2008 22:10 (sixteen years ago) link

romney is totally the kind of pretty boy flake that reminds me of jack ryan, the dude he was supposed to run against in IL who ended up folding in disgrace after it was revealed he took his wife to 'sex clubs' and encouraged her to have sex in public

deej, Saturday, 5 January 2008 22:14 (sixteen years ago) link

the dude obama was supposed to run against, rather

deej, Saturday, 5 January 2008 22:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Shame on you, Jonah Goldberg, with your thinly-veiled call to bring out the angry white males to put down the ''uppity'' black candidate.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 5 January 2008 22:17 (sixteen years ago) link

obama will win because white folks were afraid of the LA Riots. got it

deej, Saturday, 5 January 2008 22:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Jonah Goldberg has no shame. He can't even understand the concept.

J, Saturday, 5 January 2008 22:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Daniel do you think Romney would be less threatening to the dems or do you just prefer him over McCain?

Gravel Puzzleworth, Saturday, 5 January 2008 22:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Romney is an easier matchup for Democrats. I don't want to face McCain.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 5 January 2008 22:27 (sixteen years ago) link

sorry, haven't been keeping up with this thread, but:

has anyone caught footage of obama's speech today in NH? nothing remarkable, but the interesting part to me is that the only audio they have is a direct feed from his mic so you cant hear the audience cheering when they do; which was the same situation that led to the infamous DEANSCREAM.

they caught people cheering a few times during pauses, but i think they had to turn the gain on obama's mic way up or something.

not calling it a conspiracy but it was enough for me to notice it.

gr8080, Saturday, 5 January 2008 22:32 (sixteen years ago) link

also they're showing extended segments of all the other major contenders speaking and obama's the only one who was set up this way.

gr8080, Saturday, 5 January 2008 22:35 (sixteen years ago) link

romney is totally the kind of pretty boy flake that reminds me of jack ryan, the dude he was supposed to run against in IL who ended up folding in disgrace after it was revealed he took his wife to 'sex clubs' and encouraged her to have sex in public

http://www.animationalley.com/images/prints/mpa/mpa_trek9.jpg

lol

Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved, Saturday, 5 January 2008 22:38 (sixteen years ago) link

Romney wins Wyoming! Matt Drudge must scream it from the mountaintops!

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 5 January 2008 22:44 (sixteen years ago) link

sorry, haven't been keeping up with this thread, but:

has anyone caught footage of obama's speech today in NH? nothing remarkable, but the interesting part to me is that the only audio they have is a direct feed from his mic so you cant hear the audience cheering when they do; which was the same situation that led to the infamous DEANSCREAM.

they caught people cheering a few times during pauses, but i think they had to turn the gain on obama's mic way up or something.

not calling it a conspiracy but it was enough for me to notice it.

-- gr8080, Saturday, January 5, 2008 4:32 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

his voice has sounded so sore-sounding lately id be surprised if he was able to scream

deej, Saturday, 5 January 2008 22:46 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/us/politics/06donate.html?_r=1&ref=politics&oref=slogin

The candidate in perhaps the most enviable position financially is Representative Ron Paul, Republican of Texas, who has reported raising $19.7 million in the fourth quarter of 2007 over the Internet, about the same as Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton.

jesus christ

deej, Saturday, 5 January 2008 22:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah. Ron Paul is cleaning up, money-wise. It's the "libertarian/isolationist" wing of the extremely-fractured (but still potentially formittable) GOP.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 5 January 2008 22:54 (sixteen years ago) link

lol @ fox news keeping him out of the NH debates

deej, Saturday, 5 January 2008 22:58 (sixteen years ago) link

i think abc news did the same thing to kucinich??

J0rdan S., Saturday, 5 January 2008 22:59 (sixteen years ago) link

or is doing, rather

J0rdan S., Saturday, 5 January 2008 22:59 (sixteen years ago) link

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=4089055

indeed

J0rdan S., Saturday, 5 January 2008 22:59 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah but thats based on his inability to garner a large enough % of the vote. Paul is ahead of Thompson in NH and garnered 10% in Iowa ahead of Giuliani - certainly a sizeable enough portion to deserve debate time. kucinich was nowhere near that

deej, Saturday, 5 January 2008 23:00 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm in no way a ron paul advocate btw, merely enjoying how he scares the republican establishment

deej, Saturday, 5 January 2008 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link

Went back to Boise for Xmas and Jesus F., every other house has a big-ass Ron Paul sign. And I am guessing these are the majority of internends losers pouring $$$ into Paul's paypal coffers: people in backwoods location whose vote 'wouldn't matter' anyway. Like no one is ever really going for Montana/ID/Wyo's votes.

Abbott, Saturday, 5 January 2008 23:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Comic-book villain-like Ron Paul scares the GOP establishment. Seemingly nice-guy Mike Huckabee terrifies the GOP establishment.

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 5 January 2008 23:16 (sixteen years ago) link

are any blogs liveblogging the debate thingie?

Gravel Puzzleworth, Saturday, 5 January 2008 23:48 (sixteen years ago) link

im watching it while i post to ilx :>

deej, Sunday, 6 January 2008 00:05 (sixteen years ago) link

guiliani's smile is crepey

deej, Sunday, 6 January 2008 00:09 (sixteen years ago) link

/old news

deej, Sunday, 6 January 2008 00:09 (sixteen years ago) link

is this worth turning off the playoffs?

J0rdan S., Sunday, 6 January 2008 00:11 (sixteen years ago) link

w/o ron paul around i'm gonna go with no

J0rdan S., Sunday, 6 January 2008 00:11 (sixteen years ago) link

someone post if there is a romney/rudy throwdown though

J0rdan S., Sunday, 6 January 2008 00:11 (sixteen years ago) link

ron paul is in this debate, its on abc

deej, Sunday, 6 January 2008 00:11 (sixteen years ago) link

not after those last 4:00 minutes of play

xxp

gr8080, Sunday, 6 January 2008 00:12 (sixteen years ago) link

haha i love the look mccain is giving huckabee while he talks about foreign policy

deej, Sunday, 6 January 2008 00:12 (sixteen years ago) link

while huckabee talks about it

deej, Sunday, 6 January 2008 00:12 (sixteen years ago) link

lol @ fred thompson turning into the tom tancredo of this race now

J0rdan S., Sunday, 6 January 2008 00:13 (sixteen years ago) link

% of votes wise i mean

J0rdan S., Sunday, 6 January 2008 00:13 (sixteen years ago) link

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/05/oreilly-gets-in-confrontation-with-obama-staffer/

^^o' reilly fights w/ obama staffer (shoving involved)

J0rdan S., Sunday, 6 January 2008 00:15 (sixteen years ago) link

http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2008/images/01/05/art.oreilly.ap.jpg
casual friday?

deej, Sunday, 6 January 2008 00:15 (sixteen years ago) link


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