I feel unexpectedly disturbed and upset that I missed the poll for this.
― online pinata store (Nicole), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
you can probably still receive the kind of aggressive scrutiny and accusations of cinematic perjury from us that you would have got, had you voted in a timely fashion. just write up a top ten. the fall-out of this has really padded my list of stuff to watch, btw.
― sweatpants life trajectory (schlump), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 18:24 (twelve years ago) link
I'd like to get my disdain for Nicole's credentials in early, please.
― Alba, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 22:50 (twelve years ago) link
this list is terrible; and not even on time; and such small portions
― sweatpants life trajectory (schlump), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 22:56 (twelve years ago) link
Her feminine "upset" at missing the deadline will of course colour whatever judgment she might once have had.
― Alba, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 23:00 (twelve years ago) link
So I finished Streetwise last night and it was, as everyone said, excellent. I won't go into detail because I don't want to spoil it for those who expressed interest in seeing it. It seems that Martin Bell made another film about Tiny in 2005 called "Erin". http://www.maryellenmark.com/films/titles/erin/erin_home_page.html There are clips there but I can't find the whole film online. If anyone else can I'd really appreciate it.
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Thursday, 18 August 2011 13:27 (twelve years ago) link
guy seemingly made a feature back in seattle featuring the smokingest & baddest jeff bridges, also, e:
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/551/amheart0.jpg
― sweatpants life trajectory (schlump), Thursday, 18 August 2011 13:33 (twelve years ago) link
Damn, Jeff!
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Thursday, 18 August 2011 13:37 (twelve years ago) link
would vote for best actor nom based on that one still alone
ps also nom in both senses, lookin good jb
― sweatpants life trajectory (schlump), Thursday, 18 August 2011 13:40 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Thursday, 18 August 2011 13:41 (twelve years ago) link
Oh and next up, as I plow through the ones I haven't seen, is Crumb which I should receive from Netflix tomorrow.
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Thursday, 18 August 2011 13:44 (twelve years ago) link
How did you see Streetwise? I thought it was unavailable. (We've got a cult-leaning store here that has everything--I haven't checked there.) I'm confident you'll find your first encounter with Crumb memorable.
― clemenza, Thursday, 18 August 2011 14:03 (twelve years ago) link
it's on the internet
― old money entertainment (history mayne), Thursday, 18 August 2011 14:05 (twelve years ago) link
It's on youtube. I think that one part might have been left out but if it was it was only about 8 mins. The rest is all there. Yeah, I'm pretty stoked about watching Crumb.
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Thursday, 18 August 2011 14:10 (twelve years ago) link
I'd like to find streetwise to see it uninterrupted and not on youtube somehow but idk if that's possible. Still glad i could watch it some way though.
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Thursday, 18 August 2011 14:11 (twelve years ago) link
i have streetwise on vhs but ive not watched it yet
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 18 August 2011 14:14 (twelve years ago) link
Right--I knew that from providing a link above, but forgot. I'm going to check that store, otherwise I'll probably wait and hope.
― clemenza, Thursday, 18 August 2011 14:21 (twelve years ago) link
Wow, so thankful to be tipped off to "Streetwise." That movie is incredibly well shot. The opening scene alone would be all time intro to any film, fiction or not.
Why is it out of print? Music clearances? Looks like it was produced by Willie Nelson!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 August 2011 14:31 (twelve years ago) link
The opening scene alone would be all time intro to any film, fiction or not.
Yeah, Tamtam mentioned this upthread and it's so true.
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Thursday, 18 August 2011 14:33 (twelve years ago) link
You guys are convincing me to break my rule about watching whole films off YouTube.
― clemenza, Thursday, 18 August 2011 14:34 (twelve years ago) link
(Aesthetic rule, not ethical.)
i watched streetwise, really great. the 1st thing i thought was how the hell did they get these kids 2 trust them enough so that anecdote upthread is v cool
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 18 August 2011 22:28 (twelve years ago) link
I was reading yesterday that they are still following Tiny and think of her as a life subject and plan to release more work about her. They talk to her weekly on the phone.
So a bunch of people picked Paradise Lost, right?
Just saw this:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20094282-504083.html
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Friday, 19 August 2011 13:29 (twelve years ago) link
Watching Crumb. Woah
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Sunday, 21 August 2011 00:47 (twelve years ago) link
Was it here or somewhere else where I saw that "Paradise Lost 3" was completed and set to premiere at Toronto, but that the directors had to shoot a new ending! They were in court, I guess, when the guys were let out.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 21 August 2011 01:18 (twelve years ago) link
Managed to get Streetwise (on VHS, no less) and A Grin Without a Cat at the video store I mentioned earlier on this thread--will watch them this week. I offered to buy Streetwise from them, but because it never got a DVD release, they want to keep it in the store.
― clemenza, Sunday, 21 August 2011 04:29 (twelve years ago) link
That Streetwise tape is probably 20 years old...
― Mucho! Macho! Honcho!: Turn Off The Dark (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 21 August 2011 05:21 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGvTiZOKfyI
ower bit bog oil, west yorkshire 1962
― cherry blossom, Friday, 26 August 2011 12:30 (twelve years ago) link
Has anyone seen the Morgan Spurlock-hosted 50 Documentaries to See Before You Die countdown?:http://current.com/shows/fifty-documentaries/episodes/
― jaymc, Friday, 26 August 2011 17:47 (twelve years ago) link
yeah it's shit
― zvookster, Friday, 26 August 2011 18:16 (twelve years ago) link
only covers the last two decades iirc and is just really cheap and interviewing ppl at pressers and shit like that
Streetwise is good, but I didn't find it as compelling as the people who voted for it--except maybe the end, which came as a surprise.
A Grin Without a Cat was tough for me. The footage is great, and I think I could sit through it again as a silent. One problem was that I had a hard time hearing all the narration--partly because it was a little muffled to begin with (maybe the fault of the transfer), and also because it was often overtop people onscreen talking. The other problem was that I simply didn't have enough background knowledge to make sense of it all (that's where the narration would have helped). I'm usually pretty well grounded when it comes to the '60s and '70s, but much of the criss-crossing maze of events depicted here felt obscure. My limitation, not the film's.
― clemenza, Monday, 29 August 2011 01:20 (twelve years ago) link
I had the same trouble with the sound. I'm not an expert on the era (I was pretty lucky to have just read Brody's Godard book to get a better sense of the May 68 timeline), but once he got to the title (and the "Spearhead without a Spear" line), I just took it all as a deflated Marxist performing an autopsy on the last era of hope and its failure. It came in from Netflix and I wasn't keen on watching 3 hours of it, but I wound up getting through it all in one sitting.
― Gukbe, Monday, 29 August 2011 01:35 (twelve years ago) link
maybe u shld have watched it with subtitles
― zvookster, Monday, 29 August 2011 01:39 (twelve years ago) link
i know the english narration of san soleil weirds me out
― zvookster, Monday, 29 August 2011 01:44 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Swy8q2CkOI&feature=related
>>>>>english dub
― zvookster, Monday, 29 August 2011 01:45 (twelve years ago) link
Subtitles hadn't occurred to me--I'm going to check for the companion film, and if they've got it, I'll try that. I got the general sense of it being an autopsy for a lost era, but I missed the nuances. I wasn't sure if the tone was disillusionment or irony or what.
― clemenza, Monday, 29 August 2011 02:02 (twelve years ago) link
what's Harlan County about? never heard of it, but it's clearly crazy popular.
― piscesx, Monday, 29 August 2011 02:06 (twelve years ago) link
attempts at strike busting in a mining community. at one point one of the bosses' hired goons is caught shooting at strikers on film
― zvookster, Monday, 29 August 2011 02:09 (twelve years ago) link
the subtitle track on Grin (as far as I saw) only translated the other languages into French. It didn't subtitle the English narration. I might not have seen the "For the hearing impaired" option though. xposts
― Gukbe, Monday, 29 August 2011 02:13 (twelve years ago) link
french narration, english subtitles wld be my preference based on sans soleil
― zvookster, Monday, 29 August 2011 02:14 (twelve years ago) link
my local cinema showed grin during a marker season but i was a fuckin ass and didn't go
― zvookster, Monday, 29 August 2011 02:15 (twelve years ago) link
no one repping for Hearts Of Darkness? kinda surprising.
― piscesx, Monday, 29 August 2011 02:25 (twelve years ago) link
hahaha it's really interesting if you like apocalypse now a lot, which i do, but it's all like "and we realized this was our own vietnam" no fuck off really
― zvookster, Monday, 29 August 2011 02:28 (twelve years ago) link
I checked back, and Hearts of Darkness only got one vote--that surprised me. One thing I forgot to mention in either this thread or the voting thread was Cinemania. Not great, but worth seeing if you spend way too much time at the movies.
― clemenza, Monday, 29 August 2011 02:33 (twelve years ago) link
*whistles innocently*
― zvookster, Monday, 29 August 2011 02:35 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/movies/2011/09/morgan-spurlock-documentaries.html
― and my soul said you can't go there (schlump), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 12:11 (twelve years ago) link
I think Brody would look more favorably upon the ILX results. (Another "Before You Die" construction, just like all the song polls going on. These people are really out to scare you.)
― clemenza, Tuesday, 13 September 2011 12:19 (twelve years ago) link
LOL, Shoah isn't even on the Spurlock list?
― Gus Van Sant's Gerry Blank (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 12:36 (twelve years ago) link
(Spurlock's full list)
50. Spellbound (2002)49. Truth or Dare (1991)48. The Kid Stays in the Picture (2002)47. One Day in September (1999)46. Little Dieter Needs to Fly (1998)45. The Decline of Western Civilization Part II: The Metal Years (1988)44. Burma VJ (2008)43. When the Levees Broke: A Requiem in Four Acts (2006)42. Catfish (2010)41. The King of Kong: A Fistful of Quarters (2007)40. When We Were Kings (1996)39. Biggie & Tupac (2002)38. March of the Penguins (2005)37. Inside Job (2010)36. Taxi to the Dark Side (2007)35. Paragraph 175 (2000)34. Brother’s Keeper (1992)33. Tongues Untied (1989)32. Dogtown and Z-Boys (2001)31. Jesus Camp (2006)30. Fahrenheit 9/11 (2004)29. Man on Wire (2008)28. Gasland (2010)27. Tarnation (2003)26. Murderball (2005)25. Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room (2005)24. Paradise Lost: The Child Murders at Robin Hood Hills (1996)23. The Eyes of Tammy Faye (2000)22. Shut Up & Sing (2006)21. Exit Through the Gift Shop (2010)20. Capturing the Friedmans (2003)19. Touching the Void (2003)18. Food, Inc. (2008)17. Street Fight (2005)16. Bus 174 (2002)15. Crumb (1994)14. Dark Days (2000)13. The Fog of War (2003)12. Bowling for Columbine (2002)11. Paris Is Burning (1991)10. Grizzly Man (2005)9. Trouble the Water (2008)8. An Inconvenient Truth (2006)7. The Celluloid Closet (1995)6. The War Room (1993)5. Supersize Me (2004)4. Waltz With Bashir (2008)3. Roger & Me (1989)2. The Thin Blue Line (1988)1. Hoop Dreams (1994)
― Gus Van Sant's Gerry Blank (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 September 2011 13:35 (twelve years ago) link