My ballot:
1. Eyes on the Prize (1987 TV documentary series)/Eyes on the Prize II (1990 TV documentary series)2. The War At Home (1979)3. Chronicle of a Summer (1961) [a.k.a. Chronique d'un ete]4. The Sorrow and the Pity (1969) [a.k.a. Le Chagrin et la pitie]5. American Dream (1990)6. Los Angeles Plays Itself (2003)7. The Decline of Western Civilization (1982)8. Metal and Melancholy (1994) [a.k.a. Metaal en melancholie]9. Hoop Dreams (1994)10. Aileen: Life and Death of a Serial Killer (2003)11. Crazy (1999)12. Paradise Lost: The Child Murders at Robin Hood Hills (1996)/Paradise Lost 2: Revelations (2000, TV documentary)13. The Filth and the Fury (2000) [a.k.a. The Filth and the Fury - A Sex Pistols Film]14. Style Wars (1983)15. Winter Soldier (1972)16. The Times of Harvey Milk (1984)17. Trouble the Water (2008)18. The Yes Men (2003)19. The Take (2004)20. The Revolution Will Not Be Televised (2002) [a.k.a. Chavez: Inside the Coup]
― Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:38 (twelve years ago) link
i feel like i should sum up what some of mine are about in case peeps have some interest:
Impaler (2007) - vampire runs for mn governor, but the story turns from the wacky and whatever to really sad. very surprising, although the production is low grade at bestFall From Grace (2007) - westboro fred phelps doc that is utterly chillingBlood In The Face (1991) - US neo-nazi doc that goes deepNot Quite Hollywood (2008) - ozploitation doc that is absolutely amazing and hilariousOne Day In September (1999) - actually totally shocked that this didnt make it, assume people know about itThe Rape of Europa (2006) - nazi art theft and the difficulties in recovery of said artParadise Lost 2 - see one day in september - i do think part 2 is the better of the pairDark Days (2000) - story of the homeless people living in the underground tunnels of NYCCrips and Bloods: Made In America (2008) - dogtown and z boyz director turns his eye to the historical roots of the crips and bloods, which has been done many times but never close to this wellThe Bridge (2006) - camera crew films the suicides on the golden gate bridge for a year and talks to the people involved. dark dark stuff.Best Worst Movie (2009) - the story of Troll 2, one of the funniest docs you are likely to see, sorry srs doc people.The Eyes of Tammy Faye (2000) - remarkably sympathetic look at tammy faye bakkerThe Wild and Wonderful Whites - talked abt this tooBomb It (2007) - sleeper amazing graffiti docThe Architecture of Doom (1989) - powerful nazi doc framed by the bizarre aesthetic obsessions that drove it
― I dream of vodka sandwich (jjjusten), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
One Day in September is high on my need-to-see list--all the way through Munich, I was thinking about how much more I would rather be watching a good documentary on this. (Still have dim memories of the actual event.) I'd recommend the Joan Rivers film to anyone who likes The Eyes of Tammy Faye.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:16 (twelve years ago) link
yeah Joan Rivers was pretty fascinating because she seemed so candid about everything.
anyways judging from all the broken bottles i'm sorry i missed the party here. This was my ranked list:
1. The World At War 2. Phantom India 3. Harlan County USA 4. Grizzly Man 5. Crumb 6. Jonestown: The Life and Death of Peoples' Temple7. The Cove 8. The Mystery of Picasso 9. Dig! 10. Tokyo Olymipiad 11. Hearts and Minds 12. American Movie 13. The Cockettes 14. American Dream 15. Hands on a Hard Body 16. Sherman's March (dir Ross Mcelwee)17. Up Series 18. Roger and Me 19. Streetwise 20. Up the Yangtze
― Cosmo Vitelli, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link
this was my ballot
When We Were Kings - 20Capturing the Friedmans - 15 The Thin Blue Line - 15Crumb - 10Grizzly Man - 10Touching the Void - 10Hoop Dreams - 5Exit through the Gift Shop - 5Murderball - 5Metallica: Some Kind of Monster - 5
― peter in montreal, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
Crips and Bloods: Made In America (2008) - dogtown and z boyz director turns his eye to the historical roots of the crips and bloods, which has been done many times but never close to this well
I feel like I am picking on jjjusten in particular, and I don't mean to, but Cle Sloan's "Bastards Of The Party" is a far more nuanced and complex (at least for the first half) history of LA gangs. It's on Netflix not, too!
― A41 (admrl), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
on Netflix now
No I've seen that one and def preferred the peralta doc - I think we may just not see eye to eye on doc stuff
― I dream of vodka sandwich (jjjusten), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:33 (twelve years ago) link
I guess so. Stacey Peralta's schtick really started to annoy me in that film, found Bastards Of The Party not only more original but actually gave a view from the inside and offered some explanations/solutions for the gang problem.
― A41 (admrl), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link
it's extra infuriating when the person on a thread who does the most shouting about how everyone is ill-informed and barbaric turns out to be incredibly middlebrow.
I never said "ill-informed and barbaric," but don't worry about it because, ladies and gentlemen, this is my last poll. (Except for the ones I start, like the Nicholas Ray one.)
But, yeah, "barbaric" applies in rating Anvil! ahead of all of F Wiseman.
Man, I hate/need this board just like NYC, apparently.
― satan club sandwich (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:44 (twelve years ago) link
if you get caught between the moon and Werner Herzog
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:48 (twelve years ago) link
where did you come from??
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:49 (twelve years ago) link
heaven.
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:49 (twelve years ago) link
don't worry about it because, ladies and gentlemen, this is my last poll
I'm not sure if the allusion's intentional or not, but I'm sure you can appreciate the strong echo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AmDkAV0KeI
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:50 (twelve years ago) link
must be missing an aged
xp
― A41 (admrl), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:50 (twelve years ago) link
yes, clemenza, way to explain the jokes
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:51 (twelve years ago) link
Interesting reading, thanks. I've not seen a great number of these (why I didn't take part), but I've added a ton to my must see list. Sounds like Streetwise needs some sort of follow-up, that tie in with the Green River Killer is horrifying and sad (but interesting, in a morbid way).
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:52 (twelve years ago) link
Just doing my small part in unlocking the complexities of your mind.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:53 (twelve years ago) link
morbsology.
― king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:55 (twelve years ago) link
but don't worry about it because, ladies and gentlemen, this is my last poll. = http://www.kirstenwinkler.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/justoutin.jpg
― Cosmo Vitelli, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 21:00 (twelve years ago) link
Whats funny about Morbs' performance itt is that he has betrayed just how much he belongs here by engaging in two time-tested ilx techniques - consistent whining about a favorite being snubbed and threatening over and over to leave a thread without ever actually doing so.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 21:02 (twelve years ago) link
He's the consummate ILXor, it's true
― A41 (admrl), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 21:04 (twelve years ago) link
that's the worst thing anyone's ever said about me
― incredibly middlebrow (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 21:15 (twelve years ago) link
remember, others may hate you...
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 21:18 (twelve years ago) link
i havent seen when we were kings since i was a child, and it was certainly mesmerizing, but i wonder if i'd find it overly reverent towards ali today
After this was nominated for an Academy Award (and won I think?) it landed in a restored movie theatre where I saw it at a matinee along with three other people in attendence. Really liked it from what I remember. Also felt very sorry for George Foreman- Ali and company were relentless in their insults.
― brownie, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 22:25 (twelve years ago) link
I'm away from home for a few days so if you can post my ballot clemenza, that would be lovely.
― The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 22:54 (twelve years ago) link
title - points - placement
Crumb 20 #1Harlan County U.S.A. 20 #4Microcosmos 10Mr. Death: The Rise and Fall of Fred A. Leuchter, Jr. 10The Sorrow and the Pity 10 #5When the Levees Broke: A Requiem in Four Acts 10Bowling for Columbine 5Grey Gardens 5 #20Grizzly Man 5Metallica: Some Kind of Monster 5Richard Williams: The Thief Who Never Gave Up (1982, Thames TV) 5F For Fake 5Monterey Pop 5Paradise Lost: The Child Murders at Robin Hood Hills 5The Thin Blue Line 5 #9
― little mushroom person (abanana), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 03:14 (twelve years ago) link
Here's Billy Dods' ballot (x-post):
1. With Orson Welles: Stories from a Life in Film2. 7 Up3. The Kid Stays in the Picture4. The American Civil War5. The Last Waltz6. Oil City Confidential7. The Lost World of Mitchell and Kenyon8. Cosmos9. Inside Job10. From A to B: Tales of Modern Motoring
― clemenza, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 03:24 (twelve years ago) link
My submission:
Man on Wire (2008) My Best Fiend (1999) Grizzly Man (2005)The King of Kong (2007)Stop Making Sense (1984)Hoop Dreams (1994)Dogtown and Z-Boys (2002)Night Mail (1936)Dig! (2004)For All Mankind (1989)
― that mustardless plate (Bill A), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 06:58 (twelve years ago) link
10. From A to B: Tales of Modern Motoring
Yay! If I'd thought someone else might vote for it I might have given it more than 5 points.
― Alba, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 08:01 (twelve years ago) link
I feel unexpectedly disturbed and upset that I missed the poll for this.
― online pinata store (Nicole), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 18:22 (twelve years ago) link
you can probably still receive the kind of aggressive scrutiny and accusations of cinematic perjury from us that you would have got, had you voted in a timely fashion. just write up a top ten. the fall-out of this has really padded my list of stuff to watch, btw.
― sweatpants life trajectory (schlump), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 18:24 (twelve years ago) link
I'd like to get my disdain for Nicole's credentials in early, please.
― Alba, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 22:50 (twelve years ago) link
this list is terrible; and not even on time; and such small portions
― sweatpants life trajectory (schlump), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 22:56 (twelve years ago) link
Her feminine "upset" at missing the deadline will of course colour whatever judgment she might once have had.
― Alba, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 23:00 (twelve years ago) link
So I finished Streetwise last night and it was, as everyone said, excellent. I won't go into detail because I don't want to spoil it for those who expressed interest in seeing it. It seems that Martin Bell made another film about Tiny in 2005 called "Erin". http://www.maryellenmark.com/films/titles/erin/erin_home_page.html There are clips there but I can't find the whole film online. If anyone else can I'd really appreciate it.
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Thursday, 18 August 2011 13:27 (twelve years ago) link
guy seemingly made a feature back in seattle featuring the smokingest & baddest jeff bridges, also, e:
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/551/amheart0.jpg
― sweatpants life trajectory (schlump), Thursday, 18 August 2011 13:33 (twelve years ago) link
Damn, Jeff!
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Thursday, 18 August 2011 13:37 (twelve years ago) link
would vote for best actor nom based on that one still alone
ps also nom in both senses, lookin good jb
― sweatpants life trajectory (schlump), Thursday, 18 August 2011 13:40 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Thursday, 18 August 2011 13:41 (twelve years ago) link
Oh and next up, as I plow through the ones I haven't seen, is Crumb which I should receive from Netflix tomorrow.
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Thursday, 18 August 2011 13:44 (twelve years ago) link
How did you see Streetwise? I thought it was unavailable. (We've got a cult-leaning store here that has everything--I haven't checked there.) I'm confident you'll find your first encounter with Crumb memorable.
― clemenza, Thursday, 18 August 2011 14:03 (twelve years ago) link
it's on the internet
― old money entertainment (history mayne), Thursday, 18 August 2011 14:05 (twelve years ago) link
It's on youtube. I think that one part might have been left out but if it was it was only about 8 mins. The rest is all there. Yeah, I'm pretty stoked about watching Crumb.
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Thursday, 18 August 2011 14:10 (twelve years ago) link
I'd like to find streetwise to see it uninterrupted and not on youtube somehow but idk if that's possible. Still glad i could watch it some way though.
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Thursday, 18 August 2011 14:11 (twelve years ago) link
i have streetwise on vhs but ive not watched it yet
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 18 August 2011 14:14 (twelve years ago) link
Right--I knew that from providing a link above, but forgot. I'm going to check that store, otherwise I'll probably wait and hope.
― clemenza, Thursday, 18 August 2011 14:21 (twelve years ago) link
Wow, so thankful to be tipped off to "Streetwise." That movie is incredibly well shot. The opening scene alone would be all time intro to any film, fiction or not.
Why is it out of print? Music clearances? Looks like it was produced by Willie Nelson!
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 18 August 2011 14:31 (twelve years ago) link
The opening scene alone would be all time intro to any film, fiction or not.
Yeah, Tamtam mentioned this upthread and it's so true.
― ladies love draculas like children love stray dogs (ENBB), Thursday, 18 August 2011 14:33 (twelve years ago) link
You guys are convincing me to break my rule about watching whole films off YouTube.
― clemenza, Thursday, 18 August 2011 14:34 (twelve years ago) link