is it brostep?

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obviously if you remove the synths and vocals then it's boring as shit to dance to

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

Oh it makes sense but don't you find the rhythm actually sucks the enjoyment out quite a bit?

The trudge is much less obvious in that "Dub Me Crazy" tune I posted above which means I could see how what you're saying actually works (even though otherwise "I Need Air" is the better tune). There's something about Benga and people who copy him though which I find really dispiriting groove-wise.

Tim F, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

I think the mixed 4/4 + 2/4 groove can be achieved in a non-callous way, it's just a lot of producers don't make it interesting

shania law (crüt), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

http://vimeo.com/27260633

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

~*~*muzik*~*~

Monstrous TumTum (Lamp), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

wish i could find the video of a daytime festival rave type thing where a nerdy dude is playing skrillex and a bunch of chix in bikini tops and jean shorts and total brobrah fratboys w/backpacks are headbanging. totally sums everything up

― jaxon, Tuesday, August 16, 2011

could someone post this today, please? it's my birthday.

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

wow, that was "next level"

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

i just paid that skrillex clip in the store and rufus said "is that electric heavy metal?"

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

i can totally understand why you prefer "dub me crazy" tim but i honestly don't like dancing to r&b as much as dance music ... part of me just gets lost/bored without kick drums

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

les twins do the best job possible of making brostep seem awesome:

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

part of me just gets lost/bored without kick drums

personally i prefer dancing to stuff that has a little more space in the beat, too much four on the floor and i start to feel like a marionette

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

xxpost I'd prefer a good house tune to either really but that's obv.

Tim F, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

too much four on the floor and i start to feel like a marionette

i think that really sums up the break between disco/rave and rap/r&b

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

too much four on the floor and i start to feel like a marionette

yeah i'm still reconciling my househead roots with not really caring about house anymore

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

with disco/rave you're actively trying to get to that trance-state, whereas in rap/r&b you're trying to hook up

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

personally i've always been a) in steady relationships and b) into "doing drugs" instead of drinking so it's been disco/rave for me all the way

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

See it's not the 4x4 in these tunes that bugs me but the way it's overlaid with the halfstep beat so that each cancels out the other's nuance.

I don't think it would occur to me to get "over" a 4X4 beat much more than it would occur to me to get over 4/4 time signatures - there is always sufficient variation possible within that framework. But the post-Benga sound really wants to make a virtue of not trying most of the time.

And I really liked a few early examples of this kind of beat, like Quest's "The Seafront".

Tim F, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

i'm into drinking and trying to hook up with my girlfriend

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

:-(

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

no it's actually pretty :-)

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

haha i listened to the first youtube posted itt and now i feel like 'brostep' is just the less gay verz of early 00s 'club remix' hex hector style house music

Monstrous TumTum (Lamp), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

"it's not right, but it's brostep"

wait what

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

Not sure about the Katy Perry remix but i quite like Noisia's Machine Gun.

Slice Me Nice (ShariVari), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

alternate thread title: if you close your eyes does it potentially sound like it could be a segment from a rammstein show?

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

and here's this too for good measure

the tune is space, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

SEXY DUBSTEP

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 18:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

^^ I was trying to remember where I'd heard that Noisia original track and I realized it's in Wipeout HD! Um, works pretty well there.

mh, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 18:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

"sexy dubstep"

actually in regard to the moombahton mention earlier i sort of wanted to know if it was just random talking or specifically in reference to the misogyny talk around moombahton's image as of late (and thus relating it to the bro-ness, otherwise i don't usually stick dubstep and moombahton in the same camp). but didn't. THEN I DID

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 18:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm going to have to agree with Tim about the base Benga formula really making things drag out. I'm going to have to pull out the classic "It was great the first thousand times I heard it..." line. :(

mh, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 18:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

i like moombahton and i don't like dubstep. i brought it up cuz moombahton has bro elements. i don't usually think of them together either. i mean there are plenty of moombahton remixes that would probably delight a room full of drunken bros. maybe the bros are already down with it anyway. i don't go outside.

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 18:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

is brostep the moment when America finally explicitly gets into "electronica"? that would be sort of hilarious to me.

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

you mean not counting electronic pop and hiphop?

shania law (crüt), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

for whatever reason?

shania law (crüt), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 19:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

Christ.

errant flynn, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

i need to go listen to a bunch of gabba to get this shit out of my system

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

there, now THAT'S how you pander to the masses

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

crut, right, not counting electronic pop and hip hop. i'm talking about you know, far out soundzzz with no lyrics and 120 bpm

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

i can't take too much at one time but i like how the gaslamp killer will toss bits into a set for effect, alongside old breaks & psych etc.

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

honestly i think if this sound wasn't EVERYWHERE right now i'd be more amenable to this being the way dubstep finally pops itself out

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

i was always kinda hoping for a lenny dee/omar santana revolution in this country. alas, not to be. way better than friggin' atari teenage riot and still plenty noisy and metally and all that good stuff. i've spent many an hour watching lenny dee live sets in crummy looking hoodrat clubs around the globe. just not a strong enough network of bars/clubs/deejays to make it work/happen here.

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

uh, watching on youtube that is.

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 20:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

As someone who was pushing dubstep in 2006, all I can say is "I apologize".

pattern loader, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 21:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

crut, right, not counting electronic pop and hip hop. i'm talking about you know, far out soundzzz with no lyrics and 120 bpm

I'm pretty sure this will never happen. audience needs a narrative ie, words

that mellow wash of meh (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 21:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

There was some sort-of-brostep played between events at uh... the UFC match I went to.

mh, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 21:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

damn them. granted, i should probably check out some, uh, "funky", but i never seem to want to.

― scott seward, Tuesday, August 16, 2011 4:29 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

You should! It's kinda like moombahton, except faster (good) and British (jury's out). Tbh, I pretty much got into it in the first place bc it had similar beats to reggaeton.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 21:47 (3 years ago) Permalink

I think I am apologetically down with brastep btw:

The Reverend, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 21:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

audience needs a narrative ie, words

― that mellow wash of meh (Shakey Mo Collier)

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 21:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

cf mark s - "techno is novelty music"

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 21:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

is brostep the moment when America finally explicitly gets into "electronica"? that would be sort of hilarious to me.

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, August 16, 2011 12:57 PM Bookmark

Is this stuff really more popular here than Prodigy/Chem Bros/Fatboy et al were in the mid-late 90s? On its way, maybe, but Fat of the Land was a #1 album. While acknowledging that no one buys albums anymore, brostep doesn't seem quite on that level yet. It could get there tho.

The Reverend, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 21:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

trip step

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 21:55 (3 years ago) Permalink


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