is it brostep?

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would totally go to a local moombahton night around here if there was one. there will never be one.

― scott seward, martes 16 de agosto de 2011 11:32 (40 minutes ago) Bookmark

i don't know, people everywhere seem to be jumping at the chance to get in on it. coincidentally where at?

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

i feel like this is revenge on all of us who were bitching circa 2003/2004 that dubstep needed to be "more pop."

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

either that or revenge on me bitching ca. 1999 to anyone who would listen that 2-step needed to be "more electro"

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

Haha we all get the music we deserve.

Tim F, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

Around 2004-05 I was arguing that indie bands should embrace other styles of music and take production cues from house, techno and R&B and that's probably the single worst call I have ever made.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

lol @ Brastep

I think this also belongs on this thread, as I think it's perhaps the "best" pop/autotune/diva/brostep/brastep jam I've heard:

the tune is space, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

i think maybe the united kingdom should just take a break from dance music for a couple of years. take a bank holiday to brighton. soak up the soggy rays. read a good book.

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

We pretty much already did that from 2003-2006 except some arseholes took advantage of the lull to sneak dubstep through.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

damn them. granted, i should probably check out some, uh, "funky", but i never seem to want to.

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

nothing sadder than when i get a big box of records in at the store and its full of completely unloveable downtempo acid jazz illbient jungle garage dubtronica. ugh.

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

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damn them. granted, i should probably check out some, uh, "funky", but i never seem to want to.

― scott seward, Tuesday, August 16, 2011 4:29 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

:'(

Tim F, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

brastrap

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

love when i get a bunch of Loading Bay singles though. love that stuff! gotta catch them all! hi-nrg golden girls theme song my new fave.

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

tim, i'll get around to it. i'm always about 5 or 10 years behind. i get to everything eventually.

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

i actually really like "i need air"

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

It's really enjoyable MOR electronic music!

mh, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

The Magnetic Man stuff, that is. Most brostep still horrible

mh, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

it's also ridiculously fun to dance to, as you can tell from the video

...rest of the song sounds like generic auto-tuned dancepop circa 2011.

― Lee626

uh ... RONG

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

Love the synths on "I Need Air" but will never get how people could find that trademark Benga exhausted trudge beat anything other than wearisome.

Tim F, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

Tempted to say it's one of the worst sonic memes in dance music of the past few years.

Tim F, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

well you only have to worry about hitting the simple bum/bum/THWACK and then you can throw all type of flair around the synths and vocals, so it's actually super-fun and easy in that regard

does that make sense?

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

obviously if you remove the synths and vocals then it's boring as shit to dance to

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

Oh it makes sense but don't you find the rhythm actually sucks the enjoyment out quite a bit?

The trudge is much less obvious in that "Dub Me Crazy" tune I posted above which means I could see how what you're saying actually works (even though otherwise "I Need Air" is the better tune). There's something about Benga and people who copy him though which I find really dispiriting groove-wise.

Tim F, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

I think the mixed 4/4 + 2/4 groove can be achieved in a non-callous way, it's just a lot of producers don't make it interesting

shania law (crüt), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

http://vimeo.com/27260633

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

~*~*muzik*~*~

Monstrous TumTum (Lamp), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

wish i could find the video of a daytime festival rave type thing where a nerdy dude is playing skrillex and a bunch of chix in bikini tops and jean shorts and total brobrah fratboys w/backpacks are headbanging. totally sums everything up

― jaxon, Tuesday, August 16, 2011

could someone post this today, please? it's my birthday.

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

wow, that was "next level"

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

i just paid that skrillex clip in the store and rufus said "is that electric heavy metal?"

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

i can totally understand why you prefer "dub me crazy" tim but i honestly don't like dancing to r&b as much as dance music ... part of me just gets lost/bored without kick drums

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

les twins do the best job possible of making brostep seem awesome:

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

part of me just gets lost/bored without kick drums

personally i prefer dancing to stuff that has a little more space in the beat, too much four on the floor and i start to feel like a marionette

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:18 (3 years ago) Permalink

xxpost I'd prefer a good house tune to either really but that's obv.

Tim F, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

too much four on the floor and i start to feel like a marionette

i think that really sums up the break between disco/rave and rap/r&b

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

too much four on the floor and i start to feel like a marionette

yeah i'm still reconciling my househead roots with not really caring about house anymore

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

with disco/rave you're actively trying to get to that trance-state, whereas in rap/r&b you're trying to hook up

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

personally i've always been a) in steady relationships and b) into "doing drugs" instead of drinking so it's been disco/rave for me all the way

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

See it's not the 4x4 in these tunes that bugs me but the way it's overlaid with the halfstep beat so that each cancels out the other's nuance.

I don't think it would occur to me to get "over" a 4X4 beat much more than it would occur to me to get over 4/4 time signatures - there is always sufficient variation possible within that framework. But the post-Benga sound really wants to make a virtue of not trying most of the time.

And I really liked a few early examples of this kind of beat, like Quest's "The Seafront".

Tim F, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

i'm into drinking and trying to hook up with my girlfriend

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

:-(

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

no it's actually pretty :-)

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

haha i listened to the first youtube posted itt and now i feel like 'brostep' is just the less gay verz of early 00s 'club remix' hex hector style house music

Monstrous TumTum (Lamp), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

"it's not right, but it's brostep"

wait what

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

Not sure about the Katy Perry remix but i quite like Noisia's Machine Gun.

Slice Me Nice (ShariVari), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

alternate thread title: if you close your eyes does it potentially sound like it could be a segment from a rammstein show?

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

and here's this too for good measure

the tune is space, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

SEXY DUBSTEP

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 18:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

^^ I was trying to remember where I'd heard that Noisia original track and I realized it's in Wipeout HD! Um, works pretty well there.

mh, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 18:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

"sexy dubstep"

actually in regard to the moombahton mention earlier i sort of wanted to know if it was just random talking or specifically in reference to the misogyny talk around moombahton's image as of late (and thus relating it to the bro-ness, otherwise i don't usually stick dubstep and moombahton in the same camp). but didn't. THEN I DID

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 18:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm going to have to agree with Tim about the base Benga formula really making things drag out. I'm going to have to pull out the classic "It was great the first thousand times I heard it..." line. :(

mh, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 18:16 (3 years ago) Permalink


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