is it brostep?

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"while there are f.l. studio kids with no heart and soul in there music just trying to make the filthiest wobble."

There's something in this that rings true for any producer in the "hardcore continuum." I suppose it's just tacky when it's a decade late, middlebrow and American.

Spencer Chow, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 05:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

I don't see Magnetic Man as brostep.

Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 08:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

Brostep lyrics transcribed:

(do not watch if you have photosensitive epilepsy or a nervous disposition)

misty sensorium (Plasmon), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 08:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

When I was growin' up in the '80s sometimes I'd drop in to the music store and check out the new synths I couldn't afford. There was always somebody already there playing the keyboard I was trying to get at, testing out its new sounds. Invariably, the guy sounded like he just learned to play. Invariably, a large chunk of time would go by before he'd give me or anyone else a chance to play.

That guy always sounded exactly like the first 60 seconds of that Magnetic Man track....

Lee626, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 09:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

...rest of the song sounds like generic auto-tuned dancepop circa 2011.

Lee626, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 09:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

I don't see Magnetic Man as brostep

Case for brostep:

Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 09:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

This kind of shit is 99% of why I am hesitant to even venture near anyone local djing. More often than not, it's going to be dnb that tries to be haaaaard, brostep-style antics, or in the rare instance, fist-pumping trance-like stuff.

mh, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

so this magnetic man shit can be summed up as "lol @ first drug experiences"?

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 14:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

wish i could find the video of a daytime festival rave type thing where a nerdy dude is playing skrillex and a bunch of chix in bikini tops and jean shorts and total brobrah fratboys w/backpacks are headbanging. totally sums everything up

jaxon, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

need a latepass to the brostep party, not sure if he's relevant here but I just heard my first Deadmau5 track ("I Remember" Caspa rmx) and I gotta say it's fucking garbage, jesus, so lame

at least the "philthy wobble" bits of Skrillex are fun in a trashy way, though the autotune vox bits are just terrible buzzkill garbage

I had sort of assumed that dubsteb was going to stay slow and menacing and dark and was for melancholic post dnb nerds who read sci fi while listening to Burial and Boxcutter and Vex'd and that kinda thing, never predicted the birth of full on attention seeking "Dubstep Anthems" with bad diva vox and ecstatic fast synth rush bits and trance elements but I guess the dancefloors of the world and the highstreet shops have been full of comps of this kinda thing for quite a while

yikes

a lot of this sounds like stupid people drawing inspiration from the wrong aspects of Daft Punk, pouring on the softsynth tutorials from issues of FutureMusic magazine, and ta-da, brostep is served

is this brostep y/n?

the tune is space, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

youtube thesis guy should sample his ceiling fan

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

I had sort of assumed that dubsteb was going to stay slow and menacing and dark and was for melancholic post dnb nerds who read sci fi while listening to Burial and Boxcutter and Vex'd and that kinda thing

ha ha yeah this is NOT a direction i ever would have expected dubstep to go back when i was listening to and not really enjoying tempa compilations in 2003.

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

"lol @ first drug experiences"?

otm

Aerosol, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

then again i never expected american urban radio to sound like a 2001 mixmag cover-mount cd ten years later so

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

even kardinal offishall is making whooshy trance-step "club bangers" now :(

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:22 (3 years ago) Permalink

There are actually some really good tracks on the Magnetic Man album but only when they pretty much abandon dubstep altogether.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

Post Magnetic Man a lot of the poppy stuff sounds surprisingly perky. Brastep?

Tim F, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:25 (3 years ago) Permalink

have to say, listening to max martin eurorave beats in the woods of massachusetts a couple weeks ago at a miranda cosgrove show was kinda inspiring. so, in theory, ancient lumpenprole rave sounds can work for me. heck, i love the new britney album. but most of this neu-dubstep is just as boring as most regular dubstep to me.

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

would totally go to a local moombahton night around here if there was one. there will never be one.

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

If I listen to the SBTRKT and Nero albums am I going to hate myself and feel slightly soiled afterwards?

Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

there is a curious subset of punk-kids-that-into-dance-music-now that eat this up

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:54 (3 years ago) Permalink


Master's Thesis level shit below
There's like an entire genre of youtube video discussing brostep vs. dubstep.

? Clarke B., lunes 15 de agosto de 2011 21:07 (Yesterday) Bookmark

omg the part where the dude goes "why 'brostep'? why not call it like... 'mainstreamstep', or something else ghey like that?"

? swaguirre, the wrath of basedgod (bernard snowy), lunes 15 de agosto de 2011 21:40 (Yesterday) Bookmark

i'm dying

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 15:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

would totally go to a local moombahton night around here if there was one. there will never be one.

― scott seward, martes 16 de agosto de 2011 11:32 (40 minutes ago) Bookmark

i don't know, people everywhere seem to be jumping at the chance to get in on it. coincidentally where at?

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

i feel like this is revenge on all of us who were bitching circa 2003/2004 that dubstep needed to be "more pop."

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:15 (3 years ago) Permalink

either that or revenge on me bitching ca. 1999 to anyone who would listen that 2-step needed to be "more electro"

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

Haha we all get the music we deserve.

Tim F, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

Around 2004-05 I was arguing that indie bands should embrace other styles of music and take production cues from house, techno and R&B and that's probably the single worst call I have ever made.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

lol @ Brastep

I think this also belongs on this thread, as I think it's perhaps the "best" pop/autotune/diva/brostep/brastep jam I've heard:

the tune is space, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

i think maybe the united kingdom should just take a break from dance music for a couple of years. take a bank holiday to brighton. soak up the soggy rays. read a good book.

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

We pretty much already did that from 2003-2006 except some arseholes took advantage of the lull to sneak dubstep through.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

damn them. granted, i should probably check out some, uh, "funky", but i never seem to want to.

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

nothing sadder than when i get a big box of records in at the store and its full of completely unloveable downtempo acid jazz illbient jungle garage dubtronica. ugh.

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

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damn them. granted, i should probably check out some, uh, "funky", but i never seem to want to.

― scott seward, Tuesday, August 16, 2011 4:29 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

:'(

Tim F, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

brastrap

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

love when i get a bunch of Loading Bay singles though. love that stuff! gotta catch them all! hi-nrg golden girls theme song my new fave.

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

tim, i'll get around to it. i'm always about 5 or 10 years behind. i get to everything eventually.

scott seward, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:36 (3 years ago) Permalink

i actually really like "i need air"

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

It's really enjoyable MOR electronic music!

mh, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

The Magnetic Man stuff, that is. Most brostep still horrible

mh, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

it's also ridiculously fun to dance to, as you can tell from the video

...rest of the song sounds like generic auto-tuned dancepop circa 2011.

― Lee626

uh ... RONG

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

Love the synths on "I Need Air" but will never get how people could find that trademark Benga exhausted trudge beat anything other than wearisome.

Tim F, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

Tempted to say it's one of the worst sonic memes in dance music of the past few years.

Tim F, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

well you only have to worry about hitting the simple bum/bum/THWACK and then you can throw all type of flair around the synths and vocals, so it's actually super-fun and easy in that regard

does that make sense?

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

obviously if you remove the synths and vocals then it's boring as shit to dance to

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:58 (3 years ago) Permalink

Oh it makes sense but don't you find the rhythm actually sucks the enjoyment out quite a bit?

The trudge is much less obvious in that "Dub Me Crazy" tune I posted above which means I could see how what you're saying actually works (even though otherwise "I Need Air" is the better tune). There's something about Benga and people who copy him though which I find really dispiriting groove-wise.

Tim F, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 16:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

I think the mixed 4/4 + 2/4 groove can be achieved in a non-callous way, it's just a lot of producers don't make it interesting

shania law (crüt), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

http://vimeo.com/27260633

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

~*~*muzik*~*~

Monstrous TumTum (Lamp), Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

wish i could find the video of a daytime festival rave type thing where a nerdy dude is playing skrillex and a bunch of chix in bikini tops and jean shorts and total brobrah fratboys w/backpacks are headbanging. totally sums everything up

― jaxon, Tuesday, August 16, 2011

could someone post this today, please? it's my birthday.

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:11 (3 years ago) Permalink

wow, that was "next level"

moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 16 August 2011 17:12 (3 years ago) Permalink

This has been an interesting revive (though it's played havoc on my last.fm stats oh dear, I'm going to blame that on the hacking, shall I? It can't possibly be me listening to all that Doctor P and SKisM and terrible, terrible things.)

I started looking at this stuff because I accidentally fell in love with a track I suspect to be Brostep-ish, I know to be objectively horrible, and yet I still have become completely obsessed with. And my question was kind of "HOW the fuck did this genre get from X to Y?" (Being someone who only really pays attention when a breakout single from a genre crosses over enough to be ubiquitous.) Where X was probably Night by Benga & Coki and Y was someone saying "well, Full Attention is probably a better fusion of that Dubstep-Pop sound than Britney Spears" when I liked *both* Full Attention and Femme Fatale.

I suppose it's a cliche to find genres interesting either 1) when they haven't fully coalesced yet and they're still quite wide open or 2) when they're so overblown (in a floral sense) and past their prime that they start to totally disintegrate.

But listening to this stuff is the same sense I get sifting through freakbeat/garage pop nuggets from the 60s. That when a genre is this big, this crossed-over/successful and this *active* that due to sheer volume there is going to be some of it that is actually really interesting - especially when the whole hook to the genre is "let's make the freakiest, most fucked-up sounding wacky carnival of sounds using a mass produced version of new technology." Maybe Fruity-Loops is to this kinda music what Vox was to the 60s or the cheap digital delay was to the 90s. If not just dozens or hundreds but thousands of people hear a sound on pop radio or clubs and try to recreate it, with varying degrees of success or mutation, 99% of it might be garbage but the 1% that turns out to be Voices Green And Purple or Sweet Shop is going to make it worth digging through.

But I'm so far removed from this, I don't have to deal with context or bros. (Or S Reynolds unless someone on ILX links to him.) For me, it's just seeing someone on twitter complaining about "wub-step" and me going "hang on, WUB is my favourite sound in the world, are you saying there's WUB in it now coz ifso no matter what it is, I am there." The references to Dungeons & Dragons and green goo type stuff just seems, well, silly to me, because I am not nor have I ever been a teenage boy. But the carnival aspect of some of this sounds a lot more psychedelic in a "whoa, what the fuck was that sound?" than music which is slotted into the "Psychedelic" genre.

Jaar is someone whose music I just can't see the point of, though. It's mystifying to me. But BeatPort charts are also kind mystifying to me tho I know DJs love doing them.

Coolyplay G (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Saturday, 9 June 2012 08:25 (2 years ago) Permalink

Going through the Wicky Lindows stuff:

MikoMcha, Saturday, 9 June 2012 10:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

k clearly they're dancing to house but still

Chris S, Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

That guy stepped in something.

Evan, Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

i don't know about that, if that dork w/ the white shorts and sunglasses is on beat the beats are definitely in the 135-140 range (which i suppose could be like hard trance or whatever)

the late great, Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

hello sailor

owenf, Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

tiesto

mh, Thursday, 14 June 2012 21:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

do the brostep!

the late great, Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:02 (2 years ago) Permalink

dude in what looks like furs and shorts and slippers on the far left is pretty cool tho

owenf, Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

he's like the token rave shaman

Chris S, Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

How does one become a rave shaman?

owenf, Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

dunno but raves always have a few of those guys, at least the Cali ones

Chris S, Thursday, 14 June 2012 22:12 (2 years ago) Permalink

i frankyl can't believe how this thread's turned.

Scary Move 4 (dog latin), Thursday, 14 June 2012 23:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 04:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

we've come a long way, baby

https://twitter.com/RaveSnob/statuses/301467708426448897 @RaveSnob

the ACTUAL fact of brostep being the soundtrack the State of the Union address HOW. EVEN

don't call it a cloud rap i've been high for years (zvookster), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 00:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

state of brounion

mh, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 04:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

#FOLKSTEP

why should we donate to the keeplove movement?

dsb, Saturday, 8 June 2013 15:50 (1 year ago) Permalink

For the topical but not necessarily political - though the news prompting this is likely to get very political.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22630303

apparent eyewitness account:
https://twitter.com/BOYADEE

v

woof, Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

Oops sorry phone made a post with ancient fragment from other thread

woof, Saturday, 8 June 2013 16:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

ty based gay dead computer god (zachlyon), Sunday, 4 August 2013 23:18 (1 year ago) Permalink


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