An Impossible Job: ILX's 40 Favorite Documentaries

I saw some new work by Jonathan Caouette recently...I kind of wish I hadn't

TARNATION is an atrocious film. Ignoring all the narcissism, I find it mindboggling that anyone found it aesthetically exciting ("lol 2003"?)

The narcissism was intriguing enuff, but the iMovie raindrop overlay was a bit too much.

i hate tarnation so fucking much. like in that thinking of it makes me angry sort of way.

otoh i was one of the votes for devil daniel johnston etc. so it is DOOMED

I love you guys who hate Tarnation. I wasn't going to say anything, so I'm glad you did.

Receiving a vote from jjjusten was the latest blow for Daniel Johnston in a life filled with tragedy.

I'll resume this with #25 tomorrow morning. My only regret so far is not naming the thread "Documentaries! The Story of Documentaries."

feel terrible using this thread for non-top-40-related material, but it seems so much smarter than reviving another docu thread, since everyone's here:

skimming this earlier, i wondered if anyone has seen any of tsuchimoto noriaki's films

I said I was going to make note of first-place votes, and then forgot all about it. I'll start doing that with today's films. It's a little ambiguous on a few ballots, where there are point values but the films aren't numbered, and two or three films are tied at the top with the most points. I'll assume the one that's listed first is that person's #1.

There were three films not in the Top 40 that each drew one first-place vote: With Orson Welles: Stories from a Life in Film, Sans Soleil, and Eyes on the Prize. Of the films I counted down on Friday, each of these also received one first-place vote: Être et Avoir, The World at War, Spellbound, WR: Mysteries of the Organism, and Shoah.

Sans Soleil

ILX, you fucking bastard!

#25: Paris Is Burning (Jennie Livingston, 1990)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mJhtf0fqf7s/TCItcK_623I/AAAAAAAAEIw/k7KynMzaAgU/s400/paris+burning+3-1.jpg

32 points/3 votes

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydA7-qCv570

Oh shit, there's a Ronald McDonald biopic?

#24: Winter Soldier (Fred Aronow/Robert Fiore/David Gillis/David Grubin/Jeff Holstein/Michael Lesser, 1972)

http://www.fromthevaultradio.org/home/wp-content/images/FTV008_Memorial%20Day%20Special/john%20kerry%20winter%20soldier.jpg

32 points/4 votes

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucmDbv-Ck60

No director is listed for Winter Soldier, so I listed the cinematographers. To head off any complaints, I chose the Kerry still simply because its dimensions were most suitable--if I remember correctly, he's not in the film much.

Don't be afraid to watch WS, Kerry's not in it that much.

xp!

Not only did I psychically divine complaints, I psychically divined where they'd come from!

http://www.liketelevision.com/liketelevision/images/lowrez/jckarnak211.jpg

#22: The Century of the Self (Adam Curtis, 2002)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/images/bernays_lead.jpg

35 points/2 votes/1 first-place vote

www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUYFr-uDQgg

#22: Hype! (Doug Pray, 1996)

http://thefilmist.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/hype3.jpg?w=280&h=175

35 points/2 votes/1 first-place vote

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZh_qP6lv98

Don't be afraid to watch WS, Kerry's not in it that much.

For a second, thought there was a documentary called "Would Smash"

Nice that Paris is Burning placed, but I'm reading you all so hard over the Marker snub.

#21: Don’t Look Back (D.A. Pennebaker, 1967)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_cTV4oFOmN74/Svmunhm_clI/AAAAAAAAAao/3elVrc4hyp8/s320/dylan_l.jpg

35 points/3 votes/1 first-place vote

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc6HcA6kEJc

Don't give a shit.

I like DLB fine but didn't vote for it. Hype! is nice but for fuck's sake.

who voted for Paris Is Burning besides Eric and me?

#1 in this poll is gonna have, like, 6 votes total.

#20: Grey Gardens (Albert Maysles/David Maysles/Ellen Hovde/Muffie Meyer, 1975)

http://www.mayslesfilms.com/films/images/greygardens/greygardens.jpg

35 points/5 votes

www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyaRYMFWYxs&feature=related

Eric, you're not even close. But by all means, keep the complaints coming.

Happy gay day, An Impossible Job: ILX's 40 Favorite Documentaries poll thread.

Century of the Self was my adam curtis selection.

I'm really glad someone gave Hype! a first place vote. I gave it 5 points and wasn't sure if it would rank, but I think it owns really hard.

The banana I ate for breakfast is as close to being the best documentary ever.

But by all means, keep the complaints coming.

I'll keep quiet so long as stuff like Grey Gardens are in the mix.

But the next lame music doc that shows up, I'm paging Tape Store to thread.

#19: Koyaanisqatsi (Godfrey Reggio, 1982)

http://i2.listal.com/image/113777/600full-koyaanisqatsi%3A-life-out-of-balance-photo.jpg

35 points/6 votes

www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY4L5npPdao&feature=related

damn, wouldn't have even thought of koyaanisqatsi. forever since i saw it, also.

I voted for it. Koyaanisqatsi was a very moving experience the first time I watched it. Powaqqatsi bored me to tears, and I never saw the third one.

#18: Stop Making Sense (Jonathan Demme, 1984)

http://silverdocs.com/media/images/films/lg/StopMakingSense-a.jpg

38 points/5 votes

www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHJmPcILfg8&feature=related

also don't look back is excellent just as a study of bob dylan's bubble, milieu, brain, fans, times, &c, irrespective of it being a music doc.

i actually think powaqatsi's good, just incredibly frustrating if you go in expecting something molded by recurrence and rhythm, like the first. it has that great really-long-train shot. koyaanisqatsi's one of those things that i loved first seeing, but was p young when doing so, so am inherently suspicious of my judgment of.

Eric, there isn't much music in Don't Look Back; I don't think you hear BD perform a complete song aside from the Subterranean Homesick "video."

I haven't seen Stop Making Sense since it came out--not a fan--so I hope the YouTube clip is indeed from the film.

Srsly, people.

as I've said, Demme's is my favorite concert film, but I chose not to consider them documentaries. Just like many of you apparently chose not to consider political films documentaries.

i ignored concert films with one exception, but Stop Making Sense is way up there with the best and a personal fav. good album too

i actually think powaqatsi's good, just incredibly frustrating if you go in expecting something molded by recurrence and rhythm, like the first. it has that great really-long-train shot. koyaanisqatsi's one of those things that i loved first seeing, but was p young when doing so, so am inherently suspicious of my judgment of.

― bruce actual springsteen (schlump), Monday, August 15, 2011 11:10 AM (34 seconds ago) Bookmark

yeah you might be right. my predominant memory of it is as a movie consisting of slow shots of indian peasants herding cattle. it didnt have the same pizzazz for me, i guess

what do you mean by political films, morbs

#17: Brother’s Keeper (Joe Berlinger/Bruce Sinofsky, 1992)

http://media.ifc.com/img/movies/main-image/310x229_brotherskeeper.jpg

40 points/2 votes

www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlDSGMAyUrE

The corrected totals for Brother's Keeper.

I mean documentaries about political matters. xxp

There are at least a couple political docs upthread iirc.

#16: Man with a Movie Camera (Dziga Vertov, 1929)

http://benjaminjacobballard.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/vertov_man.jpg

41 points/6 votes

www.youtube.com/watch?v=22_KBgOxQL8&feature=related

#15: Night and Fog (Alain Resnais, 1955)

http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/protectedimage.php?image=KevinGilvear/nightandfog2.jpg

48 points/3 votes

www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeEfkPlnie0&feature=related

#14: The Up Series (Michael Apted/Paul Almond, 1964-2005)

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_SPYL8UC1UCY/TAVbSUDJTxI/AAAAAAAACyE/iD61SBzjY3I/s1600/Seven+Up!+%281964%29.JPG

48 points/5 votes/2 first-place votes

www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJj-fc6h0fo

Didn't count Stop Making Sense as a documentary, though it is an awesome concert. Haven't watched it in a little while, so I may be wrong, but I'd only class a concert film as a documentary if it had some commentary and/or behind-the-scenes action, which SMS doesn't have. Having said that, I briefly considered voting for 1991: the Year Punk Broke, which has lots of non-music scenes, but still discounted it, I guess for lacking a narrative thrust? Now I'm thinking I probably should have voted for it actually, damn.

Three films have come up in this lot that I really would have liked to see before voting. Firstly, I feel strangely guilty about having never watched Don't Look Back - I guess it's something of a touchstone for a certain type of music obsessive and it seems somehow wilfully ignorant for me to have never seen it. Not really sure how much I'd like it but I know lots of people who adore it. Secondly, a couple of my friends have raved about Grey Gardens recently and I've been desperate to watch it for a little while now, so not getting myself together to do so before the poll seems idiotic. And lastly, another one I really should have seen: Man With a Movie Camera. I am rubbish.

xpost and I hadn't seen enough of the Up series to feel comfortable voting for any of it.

that up picture breaks my heart