Deadmau5 - Someone explain this guy's huge popularity (general C/D, RFI thread i guess)

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So does she!

Don't think the burner/jam crowd really go for Deadmau5. They love that Bassnectar asshat.

thought i mentioned pretty lights upthread, i guess not. a friend of mine teaches high school drumline and all of the kids (who also go to jam band shows etc) freak out over them. listened to a track on youtube and it was corny as hell, but i guess it's about the eponymous live show.

it seems like the one artist who crosses over between the kiddie dubstep scene and the beat scene/critics/pitchfork etc is Eskmo.

was that bassnectar dig insinuating that he's somehow sooo below deadmau5 cuz that's lol

Yeah, totally!

pretty lights >>> deadmau5 > bassnectar

deadmau5 has like one memorable jam and a ton of LCD shit. bassnectar is all LCD.

I think Deadmau5 is exactly where I draw the line. If you are better than Deadmau5, I fuck with you. If you are worse than Deadmau5, fuck outta here.

bassnectar is all LCD.

― moonship journey to baja, Friday, August 12, 2011 7:27 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark

waht

lowest common denom

checked w/my 15 year old music geek friend abt this thread and he thinks Deadmau5 is "OK" but really what he digs is Skrillex.

Skrillex is p much the worst shit ever.

Skrillex really is entirely bewildering to me.

Bassnectar? moar liek Assnectar amirite

and yes, Skrillex is the worst (QED)

i can see bassnectar being "all lcd" if you never regularly listened because you think he's all brostep and whatnot (and maybe he is all that now) but pre-that he was great funk + breakbeat party along the lines of the bassbin twins.

"all lcd" is flat out nah

wherein i've seen absolutely nothing redeeming of deadmau5. i don't know the grown up frat-bros at the porn company i used to work at in south beach would not stop talking about him.

...i actually kind of want to be proven wrong and want a good deadmau5 track or mix and i browsed through thread and if that generic "faxing berlin" is really his finest moment i'm totally at a loss as to how anyone is deadmau5 before anyone

AND THAT IS WHAT I FEEL ABOUT DEADMAU5

Q.E.D.

fauxmarc, are you talking about Underground Communication-era Bassnectar? listening to that on Spotify now

the opening to DeadMau5's "Some Chords" is nice but I'm expecting it to be ruined any second

"Some Chords" got predictable but I am definitely enjoying it

would never buy this tho

dunno, i wasn't really buying stuff back then just going out to parties, he was playing out a lot. i remember more than few good times at buzz nation in dc - by sheer timing he also happened to be the main act of their last night before being shutdown to make way for the stadium.

...which was in 2006, so, yeah i'm sure times have changed. whatev back to costume head guy

Kinda love this Skrillex tune tho:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYYyMu3pzL4

so wait fauxmarc you're comparing him to bassbin twins but he's not lowest common denominator music?

i am probably ilm's biggest bassbin twins apologist to date but party breaks is pretty unambitious music IMO

Do they still call it "nu-skool" breaks?

I bet Freq Nasty has frequent nightmares about Bassnectar.

every old is nu again

when done right and it's not like baby anne or someone party breaks are hardly lcd - though i recall bassnectar having a bit more of a nu-skool (!) sound than bassbin - he participated alot in the breaks forums on tribe.net when that was popular.

a good breaks track party or otherwise can be "unambitious" maybe (especially considering most classic genres can be thought of as such now in comparison to what's going on) but it'll still have hits and syncopation and whatnot that your average citizen can't really mess with from a dancing perspective, while bboys/girls and house freestylers alike will thrown down quality footwork on it.

i know approaching dance music criticism from a live dance context is weird and all (not being snarky) but there it is. i'd say breaks are actually the furthest thing from lcd just because there's nothing for most people to easily steadily fist pump, head bang, or shuffle back and forth to. in which i reveal my crackpot theory i wax over every day - i think full-on breaks parties died out (in the midatlantic at least) because technical dancing died out as things get less underground and the "i'm just out to drink and be part of this cool event" demographic explodes over he decades.

wait, what, wah

breaks are actually the furthest thing from lcd because there's nothing for most people to easily steadily fist pump, head bang, or shuffle back and forth to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z88XiGWYFbk

i have a huge overbite right now and my white girlfriend is shuffling around the kitchen to this

lol nice chinstrap

http://s.dsimg.com/image/A-7217-1224556451.jpeg

he probably has that chinstrap else his hair would fly off while bopping at the midi controller

gf shuffling because that track is sweet

wait is that unambitious?

this is the bassbin twins first release, from 1992, "back 2 house", in which they go back approximately ... three years? to produce a smoother, more streamlined, more easily digestible classic chicago mash-up for people who missed the boat by two years or so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKiuEIXDpVg

no doubt a huge influence on jess & crabbe

^^ this is a bomb track and dude as i said i am a bassbin twins SUPERSTAN (if you use search function you will see me stanning for them back in 04)

but it is pretty clear to me that the working technique of bassbin twins is not too different from the working techniques of pretty lights (really any frankendance producer), deadmau5, skrillex, etc

it is hard to exactly quantify what i am saying but maybe it is best summed up as:

(overstuffed grab bag / kitchen sink of currently trendy dance techniques - the disorientation you feel when basement jaxx (or other artists that writers might call "maximal house") do the kitchen sink thing + a dose of fatboy-esque antisocial humor for the punters) x streamlining of rough edges so that it is easy for aspiring DJs to mix and so that particular genres touches don't really ever get offensive to anybody (ie it's not as cut + scratchy as quite a lot of stuff on wall of sound, it's not as "gay" as todd terry, it's not as linear as junior vasquez, it's not as threatening as hip-hop, etc)

bassbin twins not really aping classic chicago on that track though, so much as ... a particular strain of acidic hip-house i'm thinking of ... not sure what to call it but makes me flash back to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvB4_T_GDNs

compare / contrast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebitylZrVik&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RtcMZGFgos

fuck yeah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnlRJq_q25M

"Set You Free" is one of my all-time jams

holy shit, Planet Soul

brb, reliving college

To me, he fits squarely into the Sasha/Digweed continuum of very repetitive, uberpolished progtrance.

Okay, my opinion is still out on deadmau5. Like HOOSteen says, he's competant. Browsing around on youtube, I found a few tracks I liked alright and a few who-the-fuck cares generic tracks. But I saw this post the other day and it struck me as being not quite right. So I dug out my Sasha & Digeweed comps from 1997 and they're anything but repetitive! Probably 4 or 5 times less repetitive than any youtubes posted on the techno/house bobbins thread anyway. Maybe you were thinking of someone else?

yeah i'm generally biased against trance and s+d got some of their sets forced on me back in the day that would occasionally get all deep-acid-breaky and whatnot and i couldn't really hate on it. northern exposure: expeditions comes to mind. oakenfold's usually my baseline for terrible but his global underground: live in oslo from '97 is along the same lines, i'd listen to that before d5.

i guess my new baseline for wack can be keoki or something

Digweed circa 2000-2005 got extremely repetitive. In 97 it was still pretty varied yes. Once the Global Underground series got to 20, all the fun had fallen through. Those were the heydays of Steve Lawler, Sander Kleinenberg, Satoshi Tomiie, etc.

new baseline for wack = steve angello

eh he'd have to rock-paper-scissors for it with aoki

aoki, yes, the keoki of the 00s

i wonder if someday he and carles will murder their roommate and cut up the body

maybe he will murder cobrasnake and carles will write a book about it

Gimme Airdrawndagger anyday over a dude in a mouse hat.