Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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That's handy, saves me running that scrobblify thing at the same time.

Spotify lists 'The Prodigy' as 'Prodigy' and makes last.fm think this guy sings Smack My Bitch Up and Out of Space

dj onimotian (onimo), Sunday, 21 December 2008 13:39 (7 years ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

can someone please send me an invite?

thanks!!

kaiser, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:20 (7 years ago) Permalink

Er....

https://www.spotify.com/en/get-started/

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:37 (7 years ago) Permalink

Think there's still a waiting list though.

<3 this service btw.

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:50 (7 years ago) Permalink

Got in straight away with the link I posted.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:08 (7 years ago) Permalink

Aha they've obviously opened it up!

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:23 (7 years ago) Permalink

Downside is loads more ads (I've heard two during the same album), but you can hear them coming after a while and tune out. Still great.

chord simple (j.o.n.a), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:51 (7 years ago) Permalink

thanks Chewshabadoo but I need an invitation code.

Please!

kaiser, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:55 (7 years ago) Permalink

If i hear gareth jones from cardiff reciting pi again i'll scream

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:56 (7 years ago) Permalink

(advert)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:57 (7 years ago) Permalink

And I'm not buying that White Lies record either.

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:15 (7 years ago) Permalink

At least it doesn't scrobble the adverts

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:19 (7 years ago) Permalink

jonathan from spotify sounds remarkably like Michael Vaughan

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:41 (7 years ago) Permalink

wtf 2 adverts in a row (the 2nd was for that White Lies album)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:41 (7 years ago) Permalink

See what I mean about them? The Killers meet Editors big wowz!

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:44 (7 years ago) Permalink

can i get a spotify invite

dugong.jpg (jabba hands), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:03 (7 years ago) Permalink

thanks Chewshabadoo but I need an invitation code.

Please!

― kaiser, Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:55 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

can i get a spotify invite

― dugong.jpg (jabba hands), Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:03 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark

Have any of you actually tried the link posted? Quite a few of my friends in the UK have used the link and joined today. Maybe it doesn't work in other countries...

\o.0/

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:25 (7 years ago) Permalink

I'm in the US and that link asks for one of two things:

1)an invite code

or

2)your email address so they can notify you when it goes "public"

I wonder what their excuse is. Don't they want more people to hear their stupid ads?

I am a vampire, therefore I take garlic pills (Bimble), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:28 (7 years ago) Permalink

is it UK only?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:28 (7 years ago) Permalink

mr bimble check your email

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:30 (7 years ago) Permalink

It's odd and a fucking pain how Spotify often doesn't specify that tracks are remixes in any way.

Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:32 (7 years ago) Permalink

i'm in the US and unless something changed in the last few days, we can't use spotify and all the workarounds have been blocked

miss precious perfect (musically), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 00:22 (7 years ago) Permalink

2)your email address so they can notify you when it goes "public"

I selected this a couple of weeks ago, and got an invite from them within the same day. May not be the case now, of course.

anatol_merklich, Friday, 23 January 2009 06:25 (7 years ago) Permalink

https://www.spotify.com/en/get-started/ gets you straight in without an invite.

mike t-diva, Friday, 23 January 2009 07:08 (7 years ago) Permalink

I went in on that link above, no trouble at all. I'm in the UK tho - maybe there's a problem with the US, I dunno.

It's awesome, btw. Nearest thing to the "universal jukebox" I've seen for a long time.

NotEnough, Friday, 23 January 2009 08:50 (7 years ago) Permalink

I think it's staggering. At least 95% of my track/artist searches to date have returned results. And I like the concept of shared playlists.

mike t-diva, Friday, 23 January 2009 09:01 (7 years ago) Permalink

Spotify Premium is available in Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Italy, The Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Sweden, Spain and the UK. The Free version is only available in Sweden, Norway, Finland, the UK, France and Spain.

It amuses me to see the adverts briefly appear in last.fm (and permanently in your Spotify history).

chord simple (j.o.n.a), Friday, 23 January 2009 09:09 (7 years ago) Permalink

This is impressive. There's a lot more weird, small stuff on than I thought there would be, thopugh also mystifying gaps too.

Someone should set up a shared ILX playlist for Jan (then we can move to Feb etc to stop it getting unwieldy). I'll do it tonight if no-one else does.

Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Friday, 23 January 2009 09:13 (7 years ago) Permalink

Excellent idea. I was thinking of doing one for the Pazz & Jop Top 50 singles, and maybe the Rocktimists poll tracks as well. But it'll have to wait until tonight.

mike t-diva, Friday, 23 January 2009 09:31 (7 years ago) Permalink

Gaps spotted so far: no King Crimson, very little UK Funky, no Aeroplane mix of Grace Jones "Williams Blood" (although their mix of Friendly Fires "Paris" is on there). Remixes are generally well represented, though.

mike t-diva, Friday, 23 January 2009 09:36 (7 years ago) Permalink

Remixes are generally well represented, though.

But not always listed as remixes, I've found. And they don't scrobble as remixes (sorry, I'll take that to the last.fm thread)

chord simple (j.o.n.a), Friday, 23 January 2009 09:41 (7 years ago) Permalink

I also like the non-bloatiness: the software was running at around 14,000k on my home PC last night - so I could close iTunes for once, and benefit from the faster performance.

mike t-diva, Friday, 23 January 2009 09:45 (7 years ago) Permalink

I hope this thing a) goes global so the US can use it b) they make a mobile/iphone app c) ushers in a new era of music use.

I confidently predict big 4 will put a stop to it.

NotEnough, Friday, 23 January 2009 09:51 (7 years ago) Permalink

All the majors have signed up in europe, though. I suppose it's whether the US ones are far-sighted enough.

It's also notable that most of the big digital music holdout bands aren't represented- no Beatles, Metallica, AC/DC.

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Friday, 23 January 2009 09:59 (7 years ago) Permalink

Every Stones album is there though, yay!

Another thing I've noticed is that the service avoids any queueing problems, as you occasionally get on, say, last.fm.

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Friday, 23 January 2009 10:01 (7 years ago) Permalink

Last.fm is screwed unless they can come up with something as wide ranging as this.

Billy Dods, Friday, 23 January 2009 10:45 (7 years ago) Permalink

The DJ Khaled selection is spotty and Denim aren't on there either.

I do like the way that you get to see all the crummy compilation albums that bands appear on. If you pick someone like The Sweet it takes about 5 mins to scroll through them all.

Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Friday, 23 January 2009 10:49 (7 years ago) Permalink

How on earth are they going to make any money out of this model? I can only imagine that once they've got a critical mass of people using it, they're going to radically increase the amount of advertising.

Zelda Zonk, Friday, 23 January 2009 12:29 (7 years ago) Permalink

That and premium subs I guess.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Friday, 23 January 2009 12:42 (7 years ago) Permalink

At the moment, the advertising is pretty unobtrusive so I can't see why anyone would want to be a paying subscriber. Which is why I'm guessing they'll up the advertising once they get enough people hooked.

Zelda Zonk, Friday, 23 January 2009 12:47 (7 years ago) Permalink

Indeed, at the moment the advertising is infrequent enough not to annoy but I'm sur it'll increase in frequency. Service is good but not quite thorough enough, some bizarre gaps in artist's discographies e.g most of Sparks 70's output and their most recent work but little from the 80s/90s. Once they can plug those gaps, get on board the digital refuseniks and most importantly provide a mobile service then £10 a month would be very tempting.

Billy Dods, Friday, 23 January 2009 12:57 (7 years ago) Permalink

Getting enough people hooked should mean they don't have to up the advertising - advertisers will simply pay more for a bigger audience.

Maybe if they get enough people hooked they'll be able to offer ad-free for £4.99 instead of £9.99.

I wonder how much artists are paid through this. We could have weekly campaigns where we all play obscure tracks from some almost forgotten band so they get surprise royalty cheques.

I do like the way that you get to see all the crummy compilation albums that bands appear on

So true - the other night I found myself marvelling at how many "a tribute to" albums Sigue Sigue Sputnik have appeared on (from memory: NiN, Soft Cell, Smashing Pumpkins, Madonna, KMFDM, Prince...) - who keeps asking them?

onimo, Friday, 23 January 2009 12:59 (7 years ago) Permalink

We could have weekly campaigns where we all play obscure tracks from some almost forgotten band so they get surprise royalty cheques.

Or those bands could just set up a computer with their songs on repeat!

Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Friday, 23 January 2009 13:15 (7 years ago) Permalink

I wonder how much artists are paid through this

Maybe, John D could answer. Hopefully I made him a few cents when I listened to 'Palmcorder Yajna' earlier this week.

Billy Dods, Friday, 23 January 2009 13:54 (7 years ago) Permalink

Well last.fm's royalty rate is $0.0005 per play, and presumably something similar in Europe too.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Friday, 23 January 2009 14:08 (7 years ago) Permalink

So a million plays required for a measly $500? I don't think mobilising the ILM masses will be enough to get J0hn D that rockstar mansion.

onimo, Friday, 23 January 2009 14:13 (7 years ago) Permalink

I didn't think that the artist would get much from each play but $0.0005 is shockingly low.

Billy Dods, Friday, 23 January 2009 14:48 (7 years ago) Permalink

My guess is that record company gets half a cent and the artist get 10%.

NotEnough, Friday, 23 January 2009 15:16 (7 years ago) Permalink

Here's a collaborative ILX playlist. just click on the link to get it going. I've called it ILX Feb 09 coz January is nearly over. Have at it.

Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Friday, 23 January 2009 19:26 (7 years ago) Permalink

Here's the Pazz & Jop Top 100 singles list. Only 10 tracks are missing.

mike t-diva, Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:03 (7 years ago) Permalink

I mean, it fucked up in the sense that it didn't play what you wanted to hear, since its purpose is basically to play the kinds of things the listener wants to hear, but that doesn't mean it didn't have a good reason for putting that stuff on there. For example look at the related artists pages for Bob Mould and Husker Du--have you listened to or do you have playlists that include any of the artists on those pages? I mean, I don't know if DW specifically pulls from the same source that the related artists are pulled from, but it's probably a safe bet that you usually listen to sad boring 45 year old white guy music--thus the Bob Mould.

(Xpost although I'm also open to the idea that Spotify is pulling some shady "sponsored artist" type shit, too)

Dan I., Saturday, 28 May 2016 18:44 (Yesterday) Permalink

Also woah dlp9001 you post all the time on ilx about how often you listen to zen arcade, and then you're surprised that they gave you bob mould? What the fuck did you think was going to happen when you stuck zen arcade on repeat for a week?

Dan I., Saturday, 28 May 2016 18:59 (Yesterday) Permalink

"Not playing what you wanted to hear, but having a good reason for doing it." That could probably be a corporate slogan for Echo Nest. A little longer than "We know music..." but I've always wondered what came after those ellipses, and it makes me kind of nervous.

dlp9001, Saturday, 28 May 2016 19:00 (Yesterday) Permalink

And actually, I think I posted about playing the crap out of side 2 of Zen Arcade, and anyone who connects that with Bob Mould's solo career is drinking from the robot juice.

dlp9001, Saturday, 28 May 2016 19:02 (Yesterday) Permalink

I'm honestly very curious about the kinds of suggestions you're going to get from tidal. In what sane world would any recommendation service NOT recommend bob mould to a husker du obsessive?

Dan I., Saturday, 28 May 2016 19:03 (Yesterday) Permalink

I ain't trying to stalk a dude, but your name comes up on literally every husker du thread

Dan I., Saturday, 28 May 2016 19:04 (Yesterday) Permalink

You mess with the Beatles, you get the Wings

Dan I., Saturday, 28 May 2016 19:04 (Yesterday) Permalink

Ok, taking a question straight: If someone said they liked Zen Arcade, there are about a million things I'd recommend before Bob Mould's solo career. Along similar lines, if someone said they liked the Pixies I'd send them to Mclusky in a heartbeat, Nemo's first album in a heartbeat, Frank Black not so much. Ditto Replacements "Stink"/Paul Westerberg. And so on.

dlp9001, Saturday, 28 May 2016 19:10 (Yesterday) Permalink

You can stop posting on this thread about the service you don't use or like now.

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 28 May 2016 20:53 (Yesterday) Permalink

If someone said they liked Zen Arcade, there are about a million things I'd recommend before Bob Mould's solo career. Along similar lines, if someone said they liked the Pixies I'd send them to Mclusky in a heartbeat, Nemo's first album in a heartbeat, Frank Black not so much. Ditto Replacements "Stink"/Paul Westerberg. And so on.

But if most people who like the band also listen to the solo artist, then that's going to be more likely to be what pushes the algorithm, not the outliers.

I have never been recommended bob mould, for the record.

🐸a hairy howling toad torments a man whose wife is deathly ill (James Morrison), Sunday, 29 May 2016 05:33 (7 hours ago) Permalink

I have; somehow it didn't cause me to have an aneurysm.

pleas to Nietzsche (WilliamC), Sunday, 29 May 2016 11:41 (1 hour ago) Permalink

when I play discover weekly it's mostly awesome tracks, I think because I spend a lot of time listening to awesome tracks. I don't listen to all of that mould-adjacent stuff drp9001 loves so much tho.

I don't understand why DW has even become a talking point to the extent it is tbh; thinking of an automatically generated playlist as a friend or boyfriend or whatever seems crazytown to me. I used to use the "track radio based on" feature like 5 years ago when I was feeling lazy, and skip the tracks I didn't like

mario vargis loosa (wins), Sunday, 29 May 2016 11:50 (1 hour ago) Permalink

like the first time a computer recommended me music i hated i got really mad too, but i got over it. they're just computers. they don't know any better. even if 90% of what a computer recommends to me is crap, i'm grateful for that 10% i wouldn't have heard otherwise!

Sgt. Coldy Bimore (rushomancy), Sunday, 29 May 2016 12:09 (1 hour ago) Permalink


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