Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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That's handy, saves me running that scrobblify thing at the same time.

Spotify lists 'The Prodigy' as 'Prodigy' and makes last.fm think this guy sings Smack My Bitch Up and Out of Space

dj onimotian (onimo), Sunday, 21 December 2008 13:39 (5 years ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

can someone please send me an invite?

thanks!!

kaiser, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:20 (5 years ago) Permalink

Er....

https://www.spotify.com/en/get-started/

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

Think there's still a waiting list though.

<3 this service btw.

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 14:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

Got in straight away with the link I posted.

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

Aha they've obviously opened it up!

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

Downside is loads more ads (I've heard two during the same album), but you can hear them coming after a while and tune out. Still great.

chord simple (j.o.n.a), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

thanks Chewshabadoo but I need an invitation code.

Please!

kaiser, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

If i hear gareth jones from cardiff reciting pi again i'll scream

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

(advert)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

And I'm not buying that White Lies record either.

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:15 (5 years ago) Permalink

At least it doesn't scrobble the adverts

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

jonathan from spotify sounds remarkably like Michael Vaughan

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

wtf 2 adverts in a row (the 2nd was for that White Lies album)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

See what I mean about them? The Killers meet Editors big wowz!

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:44 (5 years ago) Permalink

can i get a spotify invite

dugong.jpg (jabba hands), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

thanks Chewshabadoo but I need an invitation code.

Please!

― kaiser, Tuesday, January 20, 2009 7:55 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark

can i get a spotify invite

― dugong.jpg (jabba hands), Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:03 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark

Have any of you actually tried the link posted? Quite a few of my friends in the UK have used the link and joined today. Maybe it doesn't work in other countries...

\o.0/

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

I'm in the US and that link asks for one of two things:

1)an invite code

or

2)your email address so they can notify you when it goes "public"

I wonder what their excuse is. Don't they want more people to hear their stupid ads?

I am a vampire, therefore I take garlic pills (Bimble), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

is it UK only?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

mr bimble check your email

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:30 (5 years ago) Permalink

It's odd and a fucking pain how Spotify often doesn't specify that tracks are remixes in any way.

Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

i'm in the US and unless something changed in the last few days, we can't use spotify and all the workarounds have been blocked

miss precious perfect (musically), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 00:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

2)your email address so they can notify you when it goes "public"

I selected this a couple of weeks ago, and got an invite from them within the same day. May not be the case now, of course.

anatol_merklich, Friday, 23 January 2009 06:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

https://www.spotify.com/en/get-started/ gets you straight in without an invite.

mike t-diva, Friday, 23 January 2009 07:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

I went in on that link above, no trouble at all. I'm in the UK tho - maybe there's a problem with the US, I dunno.

It's awesome, btw. Nearest thing to the "universal jukebox" I've seen for a long time.

NotEnough, Friday, 23 January 2009 08:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

I think it's staggering. At least 95% of my track/artist searches to date have returned results. And I like the concept of shared playlists.

mike t-diva, Friday, 23 January 2009 09:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

Spotify Premium is available in Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Italy, The Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Sweden, Spain and the UK. The Free version is only available in Sweden, Norway, Finland, the UK, France and Spain.

It amuses me to see the adverts briefly appear in last.fm (and permanently in your Spotify history).

chord simple (j.o.n.a), Friday, 23 January 2009 09:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

This is impressive. There's a lot more weird, small stuff on than I thought there would be, thopugh also mystifying gaps too.

Someone should set up a shared ILX playlist for Jan (then we can move to Feb etc to stop it getting unwieldy). I'll do it tonight if no-one else does.

Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Friday, 23 January 2009 09:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

Excellent idea. I was thinking of doing one for the Pazz & Jop Top 50 singles, and maybe the Rocktimists poll tracks as well. But it'll have to wait until tonight.

mike t-diva, Friday, 23 January 2009 09:31 (5 years ago) Permalink

Gaps spotted so far: no King Crimson, very little UK Funky, no Aeroplane mix of Grace Jones "Williams Blood" (although their mix of Friendly Fires "Paris" is on there). Remixes are generally well represented, though.

mike t-diva, Friday, 23 January 2009 09:36 (5 years ago) Permalink

Remixes are generally well represented, though.

But not always listed as remixes, I've found. And they don't scrobble as remixes (sorry, I'll take that to the last.fm thread)

chord simple (j.o.n.a), Friday, 23 January 2009 09:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

I also like the non-bloatiness: the software was running at around 14,000k on my home PC last night - so I could close iTunes for once, and benefit from the faster performance.

mike t-diva, Friday, 23 January 2009 09:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

I hope this thing a) goes global so the US can use it b) they make a mobile/iphone app c) ushers in a new era of music use.

I confidently predict big 4 will put a stop to it.

NotEnough, Friday, 23 January 2009 09:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

All the majors have signed up in europe, though. I suppose it's whether the US ones are far-sighted enough.

It's also notable that most of the big digital music holdout bands aren't represented- no Beatles, Metallica, AC/DC.

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Friday, 23 January 2009 09:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

Every Stones album is there though, yay!

Another thing I've noticed is that the service avoids any queueing problems, as you occasionally get on, say, last.fm.

Beloved lightbulb (Neil S), Friday, 23 January 2009 10:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

Last.fm is screwed unless they can come up with something as wide ranging as this.

Billy Dods, Friday, 23 January 2009 10:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

The DJ Khaled selection is spotty and Denim aren't on there either.

I do like the way that you get to see all the crummy compilation albums that bands appear on. If you pick someone like The Sweet it takes about 5 mins to scroll through them all.

Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Friday, 23 January 2009 10:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

How on earth are they going to make any money out of this model? I can only imagine that once they've got a critical mass of people using it, they're going to radically increase the amount of advertising.

Zelda Zonk, Friday, 23 January 2009 12:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

That and premium subs I guess.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Friday, 23 January 2009 12:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

At the moment, the advertising is pretty unobtrusive so I can't see why anyone would want to be a paying subscriber. Which is why I'm guessing they'll up the advertising once they get enough people hooked.

Zelda Zonk, Friday, 23 January 2009 12:47 (5 years ago) Permalink

Indeed, at the moment the advertising is infrequent enough not to annoy but I'm sur it'll increase in frequency. Service is good but not quite thorough enough, some bizarre gaps in artist's discographies e.g most of Sparks 70's output and their most recent work but little from the 80s/90s. Once they can plug those gaps, get on board the digital refuseniks and most importantly provide a mobile service then £10 a month would be very tempting.

Billy Dods, Friday, 23 January 2009 12:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

Getting enough people hooked should mean they don't have to up the advertising - advertisers will simply pay more for a bigger audience.

Maybe if they get enough people hooked they'll be able to offer ad-free for £4.99 instead of £9.99.

I wonder how much artists are paid through this. We could have weekly campaigns where we all play obscure tracks from some almost forgotten band so they get surprise royalty cheques.

I do like the way that you get to see all the crummy compilation albums that bands appear on

So true - the other night I found myself marvelling at how many "a tribute to" albums Sigue Sigue Sputnik have appeared on (from memory: NiN, Soft Cell, Smashing Pumpkins, Madonna, KMFDM, Prince...) - who keeps asking them?

onimo, Friday, 23 January 2009 12:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

We could have weekly campaigns where we all play obscure tracks from some almost forgotten band so they get surprise royalty cheques.

Or those bands could just set up a computer with their songs on repeat!

Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Friday, 23 January 2009 13:15 (5 years ago) Permalink

I wonder how much artists are paid through this

Maybe, John D could answer. Hopefully I made him a few cents when I listened to 'Palmcorder Yajna' earlier this week.

Billy Dods, Friday, 23 January 2009 13:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

Well last.fm's royalty rate is $0.0005 per play, and presumably something similar in Europe too.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Friday, 23 January 2009 14:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

So a million plays required for a measly $500? I don't think mobilising the ILM masses will be enough to get J0hn D that rockstar mansion.

onimo, Friday, 23 January 2009 14:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

I didn't think that the artist would get much from each play but $0.0005 is shockingly low.

Billy Dods, Friday, 23 January 2009 14:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

My guess is that record company gets half a cent and the artist get 10%.

NotEnough, Friday, 23 January 2009 15:16 (5 years ago) Permalink

Here's a collaborative ILX playlist. just click on the link to get it going. I've called it ILX Feb 09 coz January is nearly over. Have at it.

Glansel & Gretel (Raw Patrick), Friday, 23 January 2009 19:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

Here's the Pazz & Jop Top 100 singles list. Only 10 tracks are missing.

mike t-diva, Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

the author and co-founder of Moke Hill's motivation is pretty clear

"Imagine if Spotify were embraced by notable musicians and revenue grew to 10 times what it is today (and the streams per song along with it); the singles mentioned above could be generating $9 to $17 million dollars each—for one song."

it's easy if you try...

saki, Thursday, 27 November 2014 02:11 (17 hours ago) Permalink

Different playlists on Spotify get done different ways. Some involve significant personal input, some are much more numbers-driven. I don't know the exact story behind Beards & Flannel, but it's an individual's list that has been featured in the Spotify editorial section, not an official Spotify company-produced list. It's got 28k followers, and the follower-count is usually a smallish fraction of the listeners, so that song might have reached ~100k people by appearing on that list. It's sort of like getting played on a college radio show, except that list doesn't change very often, and Moke Hill's song has been on there since January, so I guess it's like being put into long-term rotation on a very small station.

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 27 November 2014 02:24 (17 hours ago) Permalink

da croupier the thing that nags at me in your post is that you're implying that this guy is in bed with Spotify at this is some kind of cynical PR shill for Spotify, like he's so naive that he made $900 that he'll do anything for them.

I think this "industry vet"--by the way the phrase "industry vet" is nowhere in the article--used his contacts to get on a playlist on Spotify and also to land an article in Wired, and he's savvy enough to know that Wired will not publish an article about Mole Hill but will publish an article on Spotify. You seem baffled that this (sneer) "industry vet" is so bad at social media, get when it comes to the two huge PR scores he's achieved, it must have nothing to do with his connections and everything to do with Spotify exploiting a naive schmuck,

ffs you've spent the day researching everything there is to know about Mole Hill, so I think this guy is not a rube.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 27 November 2014 04:48 (14 hours ago) Permalink

alright, last time i'm going to explain why someone's confused about what i'm saying. from here on out if i ignore you, that means you don't understand what i've said and i don't need to repeat myself again.

that this guy is in bed with Spotify at this is some kind of cynical PR shill for Spotify, like he's so naive that he made $900 that he'll do anything for them.

this is a really wrongheaded conflation of one possibility - that this article is not just some tenderhearted indie musician speaking up for the company that's gonna get him and everyone else through the rain - and another, which i've only shared tongue-in-cheek because it's so ridiculous - that he was legitimately moved to write a long-ass article full of industry-wide optimism and pie-charts (despite minimal web presence beforehand) because he got random love from spotify adding up to 900 bucks and less than 300 followers (admittedly more than he has on any other platform). if you think i'm saying he became a pr shill for spotify BECAUSE he got 900 bucks, you need to read slower.

I think this "industry vet"--by the way the phrase "industry vet" is nowhere in the article-

you're right. in the article he says Before switching over to the artist’s side of things, I spent several years on the business end of the industry, working at an indie label and management company. That experience gave me exposure to the process of how revenue flows from consumers to artists, and how that process is changing with new technology. If you feel the phrase "industry vet" is misleading shorthand to use in response to the repeated idea that he saw 900 bucks and went "woah, we're making it!" (again, an idea i've floated only as an alternative to him being a pr shill) I'm really surprised by this

-used his contacts to get on a playlist on Spotify and also to land an article in Wired, and he's savvy enough to know that Wired will not publish an article about Mole Hill but will publish an article on Spotify.

nowhere in the article does he acknowledge being benefited from a playlist on spotify - merely that spotify "exposed" his band's work. so you're basically admitting there's at least a modicum of deception involved in him saying what worked for moke hill will work for every indie artist. you're even taking it a step further. you're saying a guy who can't be bothered to post regularly on facebook, twitter, instagram to promote his band, started a tumblr with a long article about how spotify is the future, with the long game of slipping in promotion of his band in Wired. Cuz man, what a "huge pr score". Almost as big as the one that got him 200+ followers on spotify. (ps i have an old co-worker who makes no music and has 1,524).

I am soooooo not saying it has nothing to do with connections. AT ALL. i have to assume you missed the sarcasm of the "ok perhaps he's just some guy who rose like a phoenix when spotify gave him cash" for you to think i was.

da croupier, Thursday, 27 November 2014 06:03 (13 hours ago) Permalink

this bit from the tumblr version of the article probably also influenced my decision to honor him with the handle "industry vet"

Today, I’m experiencing the industry from the side of the artist (although admittedly, miles from Taylor Swift and Aloe Blacc on the notoriety continuum). In 2013, I formed a band called Moke Hill with my close friend Andrew Phillips and we were later joined by several other friends from within the industry.

da croupier, Thursday, 27 November 2014 06:15 (13 hours ago) Permalink

actually, to acknowledge that there sure has been plenty of clusterfuck, lemme just lay out what i've been saying in the simplest terms. hopefully then people can disagree with THAT.

a person who "worked for several years on the business end of the industry," in their own words, now has an indie band with a web presence that would hardly suggest they're engaging the new music economy as we know it. this person then started a tumblr for his band that has no information about their music, just a long article about how the arguments against spotify are really misleading, complete with charts and graphs, noting that while 300,000 streams have only gotten him $900, it's really helped them out in terms of outreach and publicity (again, this someone who has posted a collective five tweets, six facebook posts and 12 instagram photos over the last year, so you know how much he's into outreach and publicity). he trumpets that no pr or marketing went into their success, but fails to acknowledge that a spotify-promoted playlist is undoubtedly what got this track 300,000 streams when the rest of the songs only have about 10,000 (they also have a miniscule amount of followers on spotify, suggesting there really hasn't been a groundswell of interest from this playlist placement). despite zero history of any other writing on the net, this post got linked to in the kansas city star, and then turned into an article for wired within a month.

i deem this odd. very odd.

da croupier, Thursday, 27 November 2014 06:45 (12 hours ago) Permalink

forgot: there's also no acknowledgement of bandcamp or any other popular indie band music distribution platform. part of why i'd even go as far to say the piece is "suspicious," though i know i'm asking for someone to say i'm accusing them of some grand conspiracy if i do.

da croupier, Thursday, 27 November 2014 06:53 (12 hours ago) Permalink

I advise you to avoid all music premieres.

katherine, Thursday, 27 November 2014 06:56 (12 hours ago) Permalink

not sure i understand that cryptic dismissal (though it's a refreshing change of pace - no clear evidence what i've written has been ignored or misread), but i should note that part of why i'm hesitant to lay out any actual conspiracy is that it's possible this guy IS focused more on kissing industry ass than engaging with an audience at this point. He says himself We laid the foundation for Moke Hill with an EP that came out at the end of 2013, then worked on new material to complete a full-length release as a basis to secure label, management and booking partners. And while I think it's insane to think Wired is a way to the people, saying you think spotify is the bee's knees might be a way to get label, management and booking partners.

da croupier, Thursday, 27 November 2014 07:19 (12 hours ago) Permalink

despite zero history of any other writing on the net, this post got linked to in the kansas city star, and then turned into an article for wired within a month.

i deem this odd. very odd.

totally odd. it's almost like the guy used to be a publicist and might know people at publications or something.

The Complainte of Ray Tabano, Thursday, 27 November 2014 12:54 (6 hours ago) Permalink

Can we move on to the next artist complaining about or praising Spotify?

Jeff, Thursday, 27 November 2014 13:00 (6 hours ago) Permalink

ime people tend to follow playlists in spotify, rather than musicians. a low follower for an unknown indie band isn't necc. an indication that people aren't listening to or liking their music (correct me if i'm wrong, glenn)

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 27 November 2014 17:35 (2 hours ago) Permalink

Just got the family plan for 4 people. Nice for me to save money but man Spotify is just going to burn cash to get MAUs, huh?

schwantz, Thursday, 27 November 2014 18:11 (1 hour ago) Permalink


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