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Though obviously more of a house record, Moodymann's "Freeki Mutha F cker" (finally out, after all these years) deserves mention here.

Andy K, Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:35 (5 years ago) Permalink

hi dere

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

so where's the line between stuff like "zo! and tigallo" and stuff like "the cool kids"

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

Cool Kids are a rap group

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

(a v. boring rap group)

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

if youre talking about the retro-humping aspect in particular, the big problem with Cool Kids isn't the retro thing, it's that they can't rap at all

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:46 (5 years ago) Permalink

Before this thread gets too okayplayer-ish, here's Muffy Cakeopia:

Muffy is to Bangladesh as Kelis is to he Neptunes .. she's got cool style, she raps & sings, and has one of the craziest producers behind her... check out "Dope Boi" are retarded:

http://www.myspace.com/muffymommy

The Brainwasher, Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

lmao that was supposed to say "the beat switches in 'dope boi' are retarded"

The Brainwasher, Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

I was all excited about Spacek's Space Shift when I first got it, then I realized that it was so xx-ed out that it almost doesn't exist. Great in places, just wheezy in others.

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:52 (5 years ago) Permalink

Am I weird in that I don't really like much Dilla stuff, but I like almost everything influenced by him? There's something about the way his tracks lurch in particular that I find offputting.

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:52 (5 years ago) Permalink

how great is her bio:

Muffy Cupcakeopia is Hip-Pop, Alternative-Glam Sweet! Muffy was born in Detroit to musical parents. Her mother sang with funk pioneer George Clinton, her father played the BASS and the "Real MAn" who raised her plays the piano and was a musical engineer out of Detroit "dats How he met mommy". From birth she was always encouraged to express herself creatively. As a teen she was unexpectedly uprooted and transplanted to Newark, N.J. Without the security of home, she felt she had to be "everything at once." This move spawned the emergence of Muffy Cupcakeopia. Cute. Independent. Sexy. Tough. Determination lead Muffy to Atlanta, GA. It was there in the southern music capital that acclaimed Platinum manager Coach K began guiding her career. He introduced her to Maverick Super-Producer Bangledesh . Together they have produced ironically titled tracks like "Dope Boy" which have nothing to do with drugs and everything to do with swag. Muffy now laughs at the days when she had to sneak and sell candy in school to buy her prom dress. Her quirky fashion is a reflection of her musical influences. Blondie to Beyonce. Bjork to Badu. All of these women represent independence. Her song "Let Em hate" dismisses anyone who isn't "On what I'm on." This attitude actually inspired her to coin the phrase YummyPops to describe her fans or anyone doing whatever they do to the fullest. YummyPops identify with her Uncensored lyrics and Unapologetic sexuality. Even though her mouth is Tart, she is still Sweet.

The Brainwasher, Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:53 (5 years ago) Permalink

Come See da Duck (8:32:05 PM): yeah I think it's gonna be big next yr
Reverend Dollars (8:32:55 PM): the thread or the music?
Come See da Duck (8:32:57 PM): 'cuz I think J*davey will blow up next year and ppl will become more interested
Come See da Duck (8:33:02 PM): both
Reverend Dollars (8:33:43 PM): I don't think most of this has any chance of becoming mainstream, maybe j*davey, just because jack davey is such a persona haha
Reverend Dollars (8:33:59 PM): do they have a major deal?
Come See da Duck (8:34:09 PM): haha yeah she is, and their new stuff is sounding more accesible
Come See da Duck (8:34:12 PM): yeah they do
Come See da Duck (8:34:14 PM): I forget which label
Come See da Duck (8:34:24 PM): but they have some new stuff on their myspace
Reverend Dollars (8:34:57 PM): ahh, will check out
Come See da Duck (8:35:27 PM): the first song that plays "end of the world (mama's back)" is amazing
Reverend Dollars (8:38:08 PM): okay, this
Reverend Dollars (8:38:16 PM): this j*davey song
Reverend Dollars (8:38:56 PM): I dunno, I'm not sure j*davey stand much chance of being bigger than, say, janelle monae
Come See da Duck (8:39:25 PM): I think she's gonna be big too
Come See da Duck (8:39:37 PM): I mean, everyone seems to like her
Come See da Duck (8:39:45 PM): like, even people I know that aren't into underground stuff
Reverend Dollars (8:39:45 PM): maybe they have more of a sex sells going for them than monae does
Come See da Duck (8:40:11 PM): yeah thats possible beacuase Jack Davey is sexy
Reverend Dollars (8:40:25 PM): well, that's what I was trying to say haha
Reverend Dollars (8:41:00 PM): I think Monae is a ws, too, but she doesn't seem as confortable trading on sex appeal as davey does
Come See da Duck (8:41:17 PM): yeah thats true
Come See da Duck (8:41:26 PM): but I mean, she had a Gap ad campaign
Reverend Dollars (8:41:30 PM): did she?
Come See da Duck (8:41:31 PM): so she's not like
Come See da Duck (8:41:35 PM): a fringe artist
Come See da Duck (8:41:36 PM): yeah
sargnt88 (8:41:53 PM): critics love her
Come See da Duck (8:41:53 PM): I think she could definitely blow up
Reverend Dollars (8:42:00 PM): the new stuff on myspace seems a bit more streamlined then their earlier stuff
Come See da Duck (8:42:08 PM): yeah
Come See da Duck (8:42:17 PM): I mean, if Kelis can find an audience
Come See da Duck (8:42:22 PM): then I think J Davey can
Reverend Dollars (8:42:28 PM): good point
Come See da Duck (8:43:31 PM): speaking of, I should post about Muffy in the sideways thread
Come See da Duck (8:43:32 PM): brb
Reverend Dollars (8:43:37 PM): I could see J*Davey or Monae getting Kelis-big, but not achieving actual superstardom
Reverend Dollars (8:43:39 PM): lol muffy
Reverend Dollars (8:44:13 PM): but, a lot of what I like about J*Davey is they're messy

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:54 (5 years ago) Permalink

damn, "Dope Boi" is kinda ridiculous

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 04:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

still can't believe her name is "Muffy"

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:00 (5 years ago) Permalink

is this the time when i point out AGAIN that a lot of this was prefigured by Common's Electric Circus (largely inspired by Badu and Dilla? and then Shipley clowns me for repeating myself?, because let's just get that out of the way

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

or is this the time when I say MUFFY CUPCAKEOPIA CALL ME BOO

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

there's a lot other than Electric Circus that prefigures this. (some not even connected to Badu, Dilla or ?uesto) Don't give Com too much credit.

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:05 (5 years ago) Permalink

Although I'm tempted to divide a line between Kedar's Neo-Soul, OK Player, Soulquarians, and this, let's PLEASE not turn this thread into a tiresome debate over what the boundaries are.

If we just remain in the center here of what's what, we can continue with the jams for now.

I'm kinda dissappointed in the G&D project, but the 2Tall feat G&D so far isn't bad.

Waiting for Tiombe Lockhart & J*Davey to come in.

Haven't listend, but Steve Spacek's Space Shift came in. Dimension 5ive has given me a slight bit of cynicism about the listen though.

What more should I know about Bangladesh (insert joek here)?

Giorgio Moderator (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:22 (5 years ago) Permalink

he produced "A Milli" and "What's Your Fantasy" among other things

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:23 (5 years ago) Permalink

no duh rev but you know i'm partially right darn it

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

it's easy to keep going back in time on this, the black avant-garde did not even start with sly stone as you know but a lot of this stuff sounds like dubbed-out remixes of there's a riot goin' on

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:37 (5 years ago) Permalink

I was more talking in regards to the start of this current scene (as I'm sure you were) but lets not get lost in these sort of arguments. Please.

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

Oh, and why do I have to be the big booster for the Foreign Exchange album?

"Daykeeper"

cover of Stevie Wonder's "If She Breaks Your Heart" (my current last.fm count: 43)

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:44 (5 years ago) Permalink

I got it now rev. Wonderful stuff. Thanks for your rec on this!

Giorgio Moderator (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:46 (5 years ago) Permalink

XD

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:47 (5 years ago) Permalink

b-b-but i wasn't trying to...OH FORGET IT, I WILL GO BACK TO MY OLD MAN KIOSK AND LISTEN TO GOMEZ

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:49 (5 years ago) Permalink

I still need to listen to that Foreign Exchange album, I'll try to do it tomorrow.

Anywho, more Swedish weirdness, Kissey Asplund:

http://www.myspace.com/kisseyasplund

The Brainwasher, Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:55 (5 years ago) Permalink

I meant to ask about Kissey Asplund, I heard something or other by her and liked it.

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 05:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

This is my THREAD!

Rodney, is it time to xpost this:

http://www.last.fm/group/afrofuturists

???

Giorgio Moderator (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 21 December 2008 06:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

haha, I forgot I started that group! If you are on last fm, please join it!

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 06:10 (5 years ago) Permalink

liking this Kissey Asplund track

super ws bros (The Reverend), Sunday, 21 December 2008 06:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

Indeed

Giorgio Moderator (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 21 December 2008 06:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

Non-rap Bangladesh:

Kelis - "Bossy," "Aww Shit"
Beyonce - "Diva"
Ciara - "Hotline"
M.I.A. - "Hit That"

Shawnna's "RPM" (obv. rap, though) never got enough attention.

Andy K, Sunday, 21 December 2008 13:35 (5 years ago) Permalink

"Sa-Ra ft. Rozzi Daime - So Special"

this track is like something from 1992.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Sunday, 21 December 2008 13:46 (5 years ago) Permalink

Some other releases, not yet specifically cited, for which I will rep:

Pattie Blingh & the Akebulan 5 - Sagala (GA Muldrow plus a little Declaime/Perkins; later Samiyam mix of "To: Re" is also pretty much messed up)

Dabrye's off-center R&B'ish remix of King Midas Sound's "One Ting"

Steve Spacek's pair of solo 12" for Jazzy Sport

Rahsaan Patterson - "Pitch Black," with the Cure bassline and bubbling tarpit FX:

Andy K, Sunday, 21 December 2008 14:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

still lovin Sy Smith's 'Conflict'

Timezilla vs Mechadistance (blueski), Sunday, 21 December 2008 14:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

Snippets of Asplund's Dorian Concept-produced 12":

http://www.hardtofindrecordsrecordstore.com/mp3/MR281498_1.mp3
http://www.hardtofindrecordsrecordstore.com/mp3/MR281498_3.mp3

Andy K, Sunday, 21 December 2008 15:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

Good thread.

chap, Sunday, 21 December 2008 16:26 (5 years ago) Permalink

super duper work yall

Sherlock HOOS's Baker Steen Motherfuckers (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 21 December 2008 17:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

Madlib featuring Georgia Ann Muldrow, "The Plan Pt. 1"
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Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 21 December 2008 18:07 (5 years ago) Permalink

haha WHOOPS
http://www.youtube.com/v/lOMqutXWf4Q&hl=en&fs=1%22

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 21 December 2008 18:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

okay i knew nothing good would come of my trying to come back here, sorry everyone, delete effed-up post plz

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 21 December 2008 18:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

Andy K, Sunday, 21 December 2008 18:27 (5 years ago) Permalink

Why is there no info online about Hello My Name is Tiombe Lockhart?

Not even her bling47 entry:
http://www.bling47.com/index.cfm

Did I find a bootleg or something?

Giorgio Moderator (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 21 December 2008 18:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

"Sa-Ra ft. Rozzi Daime - So Special"

this track is like something from 1992.

― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Sunday, December 21, 2008 8:46 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

I knoiw, right?

Sounds like Young Disciples or seomthing, lightly remixed by SA-RA

Have you seen Rozzi's photos?

Giorgio Moderator (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 21 December 2008 19:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

This thread is an example of why I stay on ILM

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Sunday, 21 December 2008 20:57 (5 years ago) Permalink

i thought it sounded like chante moore...

im reinvestigating this last van hunt album. more of a new wave influence on it but it just seems so derivative. some nice touches here and there but barring a few tracks on each album where it all comes together, he still seems to have absolutely no certain identity of his own.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Sunday, 21 December 2008 21:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

he sings too tepidly too. argh. i just want to slap him.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Sunday, 21 December 2008 21:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

Everything I've ever heard with Shaunise on it has been great yet I still have no clear idea who she actually is.

More from the beached whale school of R&B

Studied keyboard mash (tsrobodo), Monday, 24 June 2013 09:40 (1 year ago) Permalink

that shuanise song is easily the most underrated of the year so far. it's spectacular. i don't know anything about her either.

lex pretend, Monday, 24 June 2013 09:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

https://soundcloud.com/mapei/dont-wait

乒乓, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 17:50 (10 months ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

this is probably straight bobbins territory by now; can anyone hear why I think this is superdope?

https://soundcloud.com/feedthedragon/start-feelin

Drugs A. Money, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 12:06 (9 months ago) Permalink

Is this the thread to discuss Blood Orange? Curious to hear what the regulars think of Cupid Deluxe. The world is so over-saturated with mock Sade these days that I have a hard time getting excited about this sound, but some of these songs are pretty OK.

Evan R, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 21:26 (9 months ago) Permalink

no time in this life for dev hynes

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 21:36 (9 months ago) Permalink

I love chamaray

乒乓, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 21:39 (9 months ago) Permalink

no time in this life for dev hynes

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:36 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 21:44 (9 months ago) Permalink

it's so sterile

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 21:45 (9 months ago) Permalink

What else has dude done? I feel like I've listened to several hours of music that sounds just like this over the last few years, and I can't remember a single damn chorus from any of it

Evan R, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 21:46 (9 months ago) Permalink

He helped do the only good Sky Ferreira track

That's all I know

Most of the album I listened to was boring but I'll rep for champagne coast and chamaray

乒乓, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 21:49 (9 months ago) Permalink

What else has dude done?

ruined solange

lex pretend, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 21:49 (9 months ago) Permalink

I think it's called Chamakay.

I actually quite like a lot of the stuff he's done with female vocalists but Cupid Deluxe was a real bore.

monotony, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 23:50 (9 months ago) Permalink

if Solange likes Kelela so much, she should just make a Fade To Mind-produced record too (or even better, hire another like-minded crew of producers and take the same approach).

festival culture (Jordan), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 23:54 (9 months ago) Permalink

(sorry lex)

festival culture (Jordan), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 23:55 (9 months ago) Permalink

I have a lot of problems with this whole aesthetic; the biggest is that artists use it as an excuse to disguise thin songwriting. But the one that bothers me the most is the way every artist seems to think its incredibly unique and novel, when in reality the internet is saturated with this stuff

Evan R, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 00:37 (9 months ago) Permalink

Dev Hynes did this which is def the best fake Prince song I've heard this year

https://soundcloud.com/luckynumbermusic/friendstheway

old homophobic boom bap rap traditionalist (The Reverend), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 02:41 (9 months ago) Permalink

if Solange likes Kelela so much, she should just make a Fade To Mind-produced record too (or even better, hire another like-minded crew of producers and take the same approach).

that solange compilation was so boring

lex pretend, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 08:52 (9 months ago) Permalink

haha I came here to post the same thing

Dominique, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 22:59 (9 months ago) Permalink

i didn't listen to it, just saw that it had not one but two tracks from the kelela tape

festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 23:09 (9 months ago) Permalink

seems like this would be the thread to post that if u get a chance to see thundercat on this tour go do it, he played a relatively tiny venue here last night and it was so damn magical

sleepingbag, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 23:17 (9 months ago) Permalink

I tried to go the other night but it was sold out when I got there :(

old homophobic boom bap rap traditionalist (The Reverend), Thursday, 21 November 2013 00:43 (9 months ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

Not sure if this belongs here. Was listening to the Diskotopia label releases the past few days, trying to figure out why they're hyped in a way, and this Fujimoto Tetsuro record stood out after a couple of listens. It's nothing remarkable, but hits a sweet spot of like IDM-versioning Rock the Boat-era Aaliyah.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u80PUwlfILU

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 13:27 (8 months ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

was kinda nonplussed when I started watching this but really into it by the end?

uppers epilepsy sh@kedown (The Reverend), Sunday, 1 June 2014 21:53 (2 months ago) Permalink

oh this is brilliant - and yeah, takes a couple of minutes to really get going but thereafter brings the good stuff thick so fkn thick. is the world ready for slow-burning avant-r&b jamz. who cares we are

xelab V¸¸ (imago), Sunday, 1 June 2014 22:46 (2 months ago) Permalink

like holy shit - extraordinary. just finished now.

xelab V¸¸ (imago), Sunday, 1 June 2014 22:47 (2 months ago) Permalink

is there going to be a pegasus warning album?

Who whom kissed? (imago), Saturday, 7 June 2014 20:35 (2 months ago) Permalink

This is pretty sweet imo: https://soundcloud.com/brainfeeder/taylor-mcferrin-decisions-feat

dem bow dem bow need calcium (seandalai), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 00:38 (2 months ago) Permalink

Thinking about seeing Foreign Exchange tonight, anybody seen em live before?

brimstead, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 01:44 (2 months ago) Permalink


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