I'm sorry but Paul Simon is so overrated

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when people are praising the lyrics to "That Was Your Mother" upthread (incl Joe Strummer, I guess)... are they agreeing with the sentiments expressed? Cuz narrator of that song seems like a total asshole to me.

Richard Nixon's Field of Warmth (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 August 2011 15:52 (twelve years ago) link

I never identify songs with the singer but that's me.

livin in my own private Biden hole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 August 2011 15:53 (twelve years ago) link

I never identify songs with the singer but that's me.

yeah I don't either, Joe Strummer and other people referring to Paul's "songs about his kids" however....

Richard Nixon's Field of Warmth (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 August 2011 16:02 (twelve years ago) link

The walrus was Paul Simon.

Scharlach Sometimes (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 August 2011 16:12 (twelve years ago) link

Simonon?

Scharlach Sometimes (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 August 2011 16:13 (twelve years ago) link

not to throw another log on the bonofire here but if simon wanted to be taken more seriously maybe he should've figured out a way to lean into a topic w/ some fury, that's what separates him from dylan/cohen/young etc imo

big triffid in my backyard (Edward III), Monday, 8 August 2011 16:15 (twelve years ago) link

The intelligence and melodic flair with which he's approached said topics is quite enough – and furious enough.

livin in my own private Biden hole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 August 2011 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

and by fury I don't mean yelling into the microphone, sometimes a quiet song can be smoke signals from a fire in its belly

big triffid in my backyard (Edward III), Monday, 8 August 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link

also I'm reacting to simon's own eval of his career as second-best to dylan

big triffid in my backyard (Edward III), Monday, 8 August 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link

Alfred otm.

Scharlach Sometimes (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 August 2011 16:18 (twelve years ago) link

paul simon is fine for what he is, drum intro to 50 ways is all time and much better than a novelty song deserves

big triffid in my backyard (Edward III), Monday, 8 August 2011 16:20 (twelve years ago) link

'how can you live in the North-East'?

I don't know 'slip sliding away'

PS does seem to relate a bit to Wes Anderson
that's relatively OK by me

the pinefox, Monday, 8 August 2011 16:28 (twelve years ago) link

500 new answers on paul simon! good god.

thomp, Monday, 8 August 2011 16:30 (twelve years ago) link

I love how refreshingly un-hammy and free of drama Paul Simon is.

ReRecorded, ReMastered (Mount Cleaners), Monday, 8 August 2011 16:31 (twelve years ago) link

i don't think "that was your mother" is directly autobiographical, no (don't think paul simon used to be a traveling salesman, for example) but i don't think the sentiment of the song is that jerky. it's a little tongue-in-cheek!

horseshoe, Monday, 8 August 2011 16:32 (twelve years ago) link

50 ways is not a novelty song!!

Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Monday, 8 August 2011 16:33 (twelve years ago) link

get a new steez deej, I got 50 ways to troll yr thread

big triffid in my backyard (Edward III), Monday, 8 August 2011 16:34 (twelve years ago) link

I love the scene in one trick pony where he opens for the b-52s, wish it was on youtube but you have to settle for lou reed as his producer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDRjsKcFC9g

big triffid in my backyard (Edward III), Monday, 8 August 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

Youre outta your head, ed

Gatsby was a success, in the end, wasn't he? (D-40), Monday, 8 August 2011 16:35 (twelve years ago) link

get a new steez, jeez

livin in my own private Biden hole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 August 2011 16:37 (twelve years ago) link

ok here it is, love simon's look @ 11:34

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lf7FQfE0mw

big triffid in my backyard (Edward III), Monday, 8 August 2011 16:38 (twelve years ago) link

and yeah that's mare winningham

big triffid in my backyard (Edward III), Monday, 8 August 2011 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

One Trick Pony is a great movie, so many priceless moments

Richard Nixon's Field of Warmth (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 August 2011 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

how did i reveal i was a woman itt?

horseshoe, Monday, 8 August 2011 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

Lou Reed's New Yawk accent vs Paul Simon's.

livin in my own private Biden hole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 August 2011 16:42 (twelve years ago) link

'how can you live in the North-East'?

I don't know 'slip sliding away'

PS does seem to relate a bit to Wes Anderson
that's relatively OK by me
--the pinefox


There's actually a scene in The Royal Tenenbaums in which Royal/Gene Hackman runs amok with his grandsons to the tune of "Me and Julio Down By the Schoolyard" to which I was referring

Scharlach Sometimes (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 August 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

i've noticed recently that every time i hear paul simon i think approvingly of horseshoe, so far she has commandeered paul simon and mark ruffalo.

― estela, Monday, August 8, 2011 12:36 AM (16 hours ago)

???

i paid particular attn to this post

℗⎣▲✘ (ico), Monday, 8 August 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

haha okay

horseshoe, Monday, 8 August 2011 16:45 (twelve years ago) link

You said you didn't like crepey gas station chatups, horseshoe.

Scharlach Sometimes (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 August 2011 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

its true guys love those

℗⎣▲✘ (ico), Monday, 8 August 2011 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

such a giveaway

℗⎣▲✘ (ico), Monday, 8 August 2011 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

slip slidin' away does sound like a children's song. a lot of paul simon does.

xp ha

horseshoe, Monday, 8 August 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

itt i reveal i am a child

horseshoe, Monday, 8 August 2011 16:47 (twelve years ago) link

I like crepes wherever I can get them

the pinefox, Monday, 8 August 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

peace like a river gumboots hearts and bones spirit voices born at the right time father and daughter diamonds on the souls of her shoes papa hobo me and julio down by the schoolyard think too much late in the evening under african skies how the heart approaches what it yearns graceland run that body down

― ℗⎣▲✘ (ico), Monday, August 8, 2011 10:54 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

<3

papa hobo is a good one

horseshoe, Monday, 8 August 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

Just trying to reverse engineer teh mind of the pinefox

Scharlach Sometimes (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 August 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

I didn't think the gas station exchange proved anything about Horseshoe

I'm just going on someone calling him / her 'her'

maybe they were wrong and Horsehoe is not female at all.

Yes, I know that Royal Ts scene, it makes the point.

Did PS and Lou Reed really appear in a film together?

the pinefox, Monday, 8 August 2011 16:49 (twelve years ago) link

i am female, pinefox!

horseshoe, Monday, 8 August 2011 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

I like that idea, about engineering, thanks

I remember Horseshoe from an ILB thread about a very overrated book which he / she was very keen on -- he / she was quite friendly, respectful and positive about things

good schtick

[xp: change he / she to he]

the pinefox, Monday, 8 August 2011 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

haha you jerk i still love that book!

horseshoe, Monday, 8 August 2011 16:52 (twelve years ago) link

a film Simon wrote and starred in, pinefox

satan club sandwich (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 August 2011 16:53 (twelve years ago) link

also features Rip Torn as Simon's manager, Tiny Tim in a suit made out of newspaper comic strips, the B-52s, and Steve Gadd

Richard Nixon's Field of Warmth (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 8 August 2011 16:55 (twelve years ago) link

I mean, change he / she to she

I'm not surprised you still like that very disappointing book.

I have heard of that film and always heard it was a surprise flop or something -- but it's now sounding like vital viewing.

the pinefox, Monday, 8 August 2011 16:55 (twelve years ago) link

drum intro to 50 ways is all time and much better than a novelty song deserves

well yeah that's Steve Gadd isn't it? that dude's a fucking monster

'He's been playing us an exciting new song'

this film looks classic !! one of the great pop films!?

the pinefox, Monday, 8 August 2011 16:59 (twelve years ago) link

can't believe steve gadd let paul simon colonialize him

it wasn't surprising that one trick pony was a flop - it's all inside baseball - but def required
viewing for an ILMer

big triffid in my backyard (Edward III), Monday, 8 August 2011 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

(xp)
You're confusing him with Jim Gordon

Scharlach Sometimes (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 8 August 2011 17:01 (twelve years ago) link


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