Most tedious thing said by worthless VHS idiot JOHN MAUS in p4k interview

if ilx crashes can we agree to all go here:

http://www.mausspace.com/phpBB3/index.php

http://www.mausspace.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7

you have to be fucking kidding me

I don't know; I don't pay attention to that noise. I just don't think people are doing a weird 180 on Ariel Pink like you're implying?

i dunno look at the pitchfork scores and get back to me

I GUESS IT COULD BE A COINCIDENCE

http://www.mausspace.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1249

ok I didn't realize u were talking about p4k specifially. but, yeah, we're all well aware that pitchfork rides trends and is not necessarily fair or consistent.

do i have to provide more examples or can i go to sleep

Pink has been a hero of mine and any right thinking person with functioning ears since 2004 when Doldrums came out

P!nk has been a hero of mine and any right thinking person with functioning ears since 2003 when "Trouble" came out

I like rights for gays. It's funny and camp and macabre.

Whiney, why didn't you start this thread and just split? You're in "most tedious thing said by cranky ilx harpy whiney weingarten in recent john maus thread" territory.

talkin smart to a pimp you done broke the first rule

I'm worried about "rights for gays oh yeah" getting stuck in my head.

P!nk has been a hero of mine and any right thinking person with functioning ears since 2003 when "Trouble" came out

really? you don't rate Get the Party Started?

I stopped caring about Pink after "Most Girls" tbh

I'm super jealous of anyone who has honestly never heard anything worse than "rights for gays"

rights for gays is really, really bad.

I'm worried about "rights for gays oh yeah" getting stuck in my head.

― Zachary Taylor, Friday, August 5, 2011 2:31 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

looooool no joke i was having trouble sleeping so now i'm listening to no diggity on repeat

i like the way you work that RIGHTS FOR GAYS

I'm sorry you guys don't believe in rights for gays

"Tie 'em to a fence post / POW POW POW POW"
Oh yeah

John Maus was a Nazi
He liked to play SS
Kept a picture of Adolph
Tucked in his cowboy vest

amazed that this 'story' 'blew up'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt6PVVr4B04

I listened to the album, like, three times in a row last night while reading this thread AT THE GYM. I kind of hate it for sounding like Ariel Pink with all the power pop sucked out of it, but I guess I kind of like it for the same reason. It definitely warms up after a couple of listens.
*leaves. Drives van around the M25 twenty-five times*

i mean i posted something on (sigh) tumblr about this two days ago, & yesterday i was moving house so had no internet access. and it's just that weird feeling that you get, the surprise that pointless arguments about non-issues on the internet are continuing to happen when you have more pressing things to do

i mean, i think he comes off a little bit of a tool, in that he's being very half-arsed about his unwillingness to er 'play the game'. but i feel like the more histrionic responses sort of fold the half-arsedness and pedanticism he's displaying into the basic point - like, rather than 'look at that john maus being kind of silly in that pointless p4k guest list feature' it becomes 'how dare that john maus question the ontological primacy of pointless p4k features'

also if someone had said to me 'this guy is like ariel pink except he's a grad student' that would not really have been a must-to-hear for me, but the butthurt reaction to this stuff made me listen to the record, so if it's trolling it worked pretty well --

It's not as if features exactly like the Guestlist haven't been a regular music press fixture since Portrait Of The Artist As A Consumer. No one's being Cap'n defend-a-fork about this. For me it's just mind boggling that someone would have an ethical problem with a question like "What are your favourite books?". Maybe he's embarrassed by his choices and was trying to avoid the question? His music choices alone were pseudy enough...

It's not as if features exactly like the Guestlist haven't been a regular music press fixture since Portrait Of The Artist As A Consumer

well, yes. that's ... what his problem is.

also it's interesting that 80s nme thought that this kind of thing required a snarky maintaining-distance title for this sort of feature. well, okay, it's interesting to the subset of people who care about the journalistic practices of the nme in the 80s.

The other thing I don't get is that most articles I've read about this guy / this album focus on his background in critical thinking and very little on his music. For someone who can rant for pages about stuff that I personally find indecipherable, his lyrics are really really vague and repetitive. I was expecting verbose songwriting containing deep analytical content, but no it's "Rights for gays, yeah" and "Copkiller/Let's kill some cops tonight", which I guess are provocative in their own ways, but are also obscured by production so that any further message is lost. Am I missing something here?

this whole thing has already got me to the point of googling "john maus rapidshare", don't make me take it to the level of "john maus lyrics"

listen to his album on spotify

John Mausoleum n. An artist's tomb built solely out of Pitchfork quotations

Didn't people get kind of pissed off about Ariel Pink for almost exactly the same kinds of "Wow what a weirdo, why is he saying/doing these things and at the same time making shit music?" reasons back in 2005?

sorry if im wrong (note: i'm not wrong, that's sarcasm)

NBD pls

this whole thing has already got me to the point of googling "john maus rapidshare", don't make me take it to the level of "john maus lyrics"

― thomp, Friday, August 5, 2011 8:59 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

Many xps but whiney, I didn't start a thread about jay electronica creating a mystique-destroying mountain dew ad. And in this case the interview probably enhances rather than undermines his persona but feel free to keep justifying your awesome thread with oblique zings understood only by yourself, the target and j0rdan sargent

I spend quite a bit of money at Academy Records, and I have to admit that it disheartens me to think they'd stop carrying something or refuse to carry something because of the political beliefs of the artist. I mean, with John Maus I suppose I get it, and what he said was blatantly offensive to record store employees... But so what? Making a public statement about proudly taking his albums off their shelves gives him more power and his flippant remarks more gravitas than they actually have, it would seem. Of course it's their decision and their call, and yes shelf space is limited and curation must be severe, but I hate to think that my shopping experiences at probably my favorite record store in New York may be pre-emptively screened along these sorts of lines.

seems to me this guy would be a lot happier if his music was never released commercially!

hi i'm john maus, please listen to my new album on spotify

Clarke, we've never stocked John Maus in the first place. And it's not our fault someone took a snarky facebook post and re-posted it elsewhere on the internets. Also you can read upthread where I say that the only other items I have no interest in stocking are Skrewdriver LPs, because, you know, racist skins. Don't worry that anything else is being withheld from your ears.

also pls don't legitimize maus's ridiculous "record stores should all close and it makes me happy" statement as 'political.'

what is the meaning of the 'pls listen to my album on spotify' thing?

If you use the free, ad-ridden version of Spotify, one of the most frequent ones to pop up is John Maus asking listeners to please listen to his album on Spotify. It's annoying and repetitive, just like its appearance in this thread.

I understand, Ian, but my larger point is more, like, where do you draw the line? So you won't stock Skrewdriver because of racist/skinhead stuff, but what about church-burners? Murderers? I'm not trying to start a spat, it's just an interesting topic. I work in the wine business, and I remember post 9/11 when a certain famous Burgundy grower's (singular and amazing) wines were ceremoniously yanked from many shelves because of some unsavory anti-American comments he made. (And some stores went even further and gutted their stores of French wines altogether--not just because of this guy, though...) That left a really bad taste in my mouth, because I saw and continue to see wine as primarily a purely aesthetic realm where I don't have to worry about the beliefs or prejudices of the folks who produce them--and it's the same with music.

Freedom Wine!

i think if the wine dude was like "i hate all wine stores, they're full of snobs, i'll be glad when you can just buy wine online" the stores would be within their rights to pull his products! no one said he had to distribute his wine via stores in the first place!

There really isn't a 'line' to draw imo--these are more like two isolated cases, not a trend towards limiting anyone's shopping experience.

To be totally truthful, I don't like stocking Burzum records either, but I got outvoted by my co-workers on that one.