Most tedious thing said by worthless VHS idiot JOHN MAUS in p4k interview

I'm a big fan of his, don't really listen to his recorded stuff that much but enjoy it when I do, his live show is really great

man he is so lucky to have so many horrible reviews of his music to post

what are the odds

i mean, i really do love this turn of Ariel Pink/John Maus being derided for years and then being regarded as heroes when the narrative changes. It took disco like 15 years to make that happen, kudos

when did the narrative change

when we fell in love with the sounds of misremembered memories, hoos, teen daze and campfires, beach haze and waterlogged VHS tapes, cassette hiss and long beach trips looking out of the back of the station wagon while soft rock plays, hoos. the intangible memories of innocence lost.

i mean, i really do love this turn of Ariel Pink/John Maus being derided for years and then being regarded as heroes when the narrative changes.

I've always liked Ariel Pink! and I certainly don't think he's a "hero"

because the narrative is based on what crut thinks

well who exactly are you saying is touting him as a hero all of a sudden

i thought the narrative changed for ariel pink when he released a record that wasn't half bad, can't speak for maus

man everyone is writing it gets better songs these days

crut, sorry if im wrong (note: i'm not wrong, that's sarcasm) but isn't ariel pink regarded as the father of a genre that has its own iTunes features and countless alt-weekly articles and simon reynolds defense pieces and constant best new music traction

and thusly he gets to play festivals like coachella and jimmy fallon even though like two years ago he couldn't even fill the knitting factory

if ilx crashes can we agree to all go here:

http://www.mausspace.com/phpBB3/index.php

http://www.mausspace.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=7

you have to be fucking kidding me

I don't know; I don't pay attention to that noise. I just don't think people are doing a weird 180 on Ariel Pink like you're implying?

i dunno look at the pitchfork scores and get back to me

I GUESS IT COULD BE A COINCIDENCE

http://www.mausspace.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1249

ok I didn't realize u were talking about p4k specifially. but, yeah, we're all well aware that pitchfork rides trends and is not necessarily fair or consistent.

do i have to provide more examples or can i go to sleep

Pink has been a hero of mine and any right thinking person with functioning ears since 2004 when Doldrums came out

P!nk has been a hero of mine and any right thinking person with functioning ears since 2003 when "Trouble" came out

I like rights for gays. It's funny and camp and macabre.

Whiney, why didn't you start this thread and just split? You're in "most tedious thing said by cranky ilx harpy whiney weingarten in recent john maus thread" territory.

talkin smart to a pimp you done broke the first rule

I'm worried about "rights for gays oh yeah" getting stuck in my head.

P!nk has been a hero of mine and any right thinking person with functioning ears since 2003 when "Trouble" came out

really? you don't rate Get the Party Started?

I stopped caring about Pink after "Most Girls" tbh

I'm super jealous of anyone who has honestly never heard anything worse than "rights for gays"

rights for gays is really, really bad.

I'm worried about "rights for gays oh yeah" getting stuck in my head.

― Zachary Taylor, Friday, August 5, 2011 2:31 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

looooool no joke i was having trouble sleeping so now i'm listening to no diggity on repeat

i like the way you work that RIGHTS FOR GAYS

I'm sorry you guys don't believe in rights for gays

"Tie 'em to a fence post / POW POW POW POW"
Oh yeah

John Maus was a Nazi
He liked to play SS
Kept a picture of Adolph
Tucked in his cowboy vest

amazed that this 'story' 'blew up'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt6PVVr4B04

I listened to the album, like, three times in a row last night while reading this thread AT THE GYM. I kind of hate it for sounding like Ariel Pink with all the power pop sucked out of it, but I guess I kind of like it for the same reason. It definitely warms up after a couple of listens.
*leaves. Drives van around the M25 twenty-five times*

i mean i posted something on (sigh) tumblr about this two days ago, & yesterday i was moving house so had no internet access. and it's just that weird feeling that you get, the surprise that pointless arguments about non-issues on the internet are continuing to happen when you have more pressing things to do

i mean, i think he comes off a little bit of a tool, in that he's being very half-arsed about his unwillingness to er 'play the game'. but i feel like the more histrionic responses sort of fold the half-arsedness and pedanticism he's displaying into the basic point - like, rather than 'look at that john maus being kind of silly in that pointless p4k guest list feature' it becomes 'how dare that john maus question the ontological primacy of pointless p4k features'

also if someone had said to me 'this guy is like ariel pink except he's a grad student' that would not really have been a must-to-hear for me, but the butthurt reaction to this stuff made me listen to the record, so if it's trolling it worked pretty well --

It's not as if features exactly like the Guestlist haven't been a regular music press fixture since Portrait Of The Artist As A Consumer. No one's being Cap'n defend-a-fork about this. For me it's just mind boggling that someone would have an ethical problem with a question like "What are your favourite books?". Maybe he's embarrassed by his choices and was trying to avoid the question? His music choices alone were pseudy enough...

It's not as if features exactly like the Guestlist haven't been a regular music press fixture since Portrait Of The Artist As A Consumer

well, yes. that's ... what his problem is.

also it's interesting that 80s nme thought that this kind of thing required a snarky maintaining-distance title for this sort of feature. well, okay, it's interesting to the subset of people who care about the journalistic practices of the nme in the 80s.

The other thing I don't get is that most articles I've read about this guy / this album focus on his background in critical thinking and very little on his music. For someone who can rant for pages about stuff that I personally find indecipherable, his lyrics are really really vague and repetitive. I was expecting verbose songwriting containing deep analytical content, but no it's "Rights for gays, yeah" and "Copkiller/Let's kill some cops tonight", which I guess are provocative in their own ways, but are also obscured by production so that any further message is lost. Am I missing something here?

this whole thing has already got me to the point of googling "john maus rapidshare", don't make me take it to the level of "john maus lyrics"

listen to his album on spotify

John Mausoleum n. An artist's tomb built solely out of Pitchfork quotations

Didn't people get kind of pissed off about Ariel Pink for almost exactly the same kinds of "Wow what a weirdo, why is he saying/doing these things and at the same time making shit music?" reasons back in 2005?

sorry if im wrong (note: i'm not wrong, that's sarcasm)

NBD pls

this whole thing has already got me to the point of googling "john maus rapidshare", don't make me take it to the level of "john maus lyrics"

― thomp, Friday, August 5, 2011 8:59 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark