Most tedious thing said by worthless VHS idiot JOHN MAUS in p4k interview

(I gotta go with maus, only cuz I've always wanted to firebomb something, and it might as well be an independent record store)

i am always so charmed by apologies.

i have purchased a john maus record at a real record store in the past fwiw

don't know if jokes on you or the record store.

(I gotta go with maus, only cuz I've always wanted to firebomb something, and it might as well be an independent record store)

― swaguirre, the wrath of basedgod (bernard snowy), Thursday, August 4, 2011 4:42 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

thanx bud, just give me a heads up so i can get into my bomb shelter in the basement.

i have purchased a john maus record at a real record store in the past fwiw

haha yeah i bought his newest at a record store, for about $20, like a month or so ago

its a point that resonates with me in the context of the presumed cosmopolitanism of pitchfork etc.

― ℗⎣▲✘ (ico), Thursday, August 4, 2011 4:27 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark

the filter bubble

hadn't thought of that

interesting point

A response via Marathonpacks:

http://marathonpacks.tumblr.com/post/8475820060/a-defense-of-john-maus-and-bratty-artists

Great response imo

can't believe one of the dudes from spoon is on tumblr

Man, the shout-outs to classical music and Jean Luc-Nancy are kind of hilarious! It reads like the perfect satire of overly educated unemployable grad students.

With the record store thing though, saying you're happy there's little closed signs on their doors might be harsh, but I'm with ico. Most record stores in my city growing up DID feel more like barriers to music. I'd have bad experiences dealing with staff all the time, and it was crazy how expensive records were. I wouldn't say that I'm glad people are out of job, but to be honest, that kind of exclusive access to music was terrible.

Is dealing with "snotty" (minimum wage) record store clerks really that shattering an experience? Man, some people are so fragile.

most of the clerks around here rule so fuck that

Xpost This is a problem with people and prices, not record stores as a collective. I'm still not convinced by his back pedalling saying he only meant big chain stores. Big chain stores don't carry little signs that say 'closed' on them.

some of the most genuinely nice clerks anywhere over the years

On the Marathonpacks response: glad someone pointed out the disparity between the megastores and snotty record store clerks. Don't wanna put words in his mouth (he has enough there already) but aren't "snotty record store clerks" synonymous with indie stores? If megastores deliberately hire people who don't know anything about music, what are they being snotty about? His attempt to backpedal on his original statement only confuses things further.

i mean guys its pretty transparent to me here that he WAS talking about indie shop snobbery and is backpedaling by bringing in big box stores to defend himself, are we really talking about this like there's something else going on?

i hate when xps make my post irrelevant lol

i don't think ppl are complaining about snottiness so much as limited access? which, though i do sooorta *get* it, is ultimately an argument i don't care to engage much with. any independent record store is worth preserving these days (even the ones selling 'dare' for $30 or w/e) and nobody suffers from that lack of access anymore

xp yes this is why his "apology" is completely disingenuous; either that or he is actually a dumbass.

well we shouldn't confuse two things--i think he had no idea that 1) his aesthete routine would come off so obnoxious thx to a lack of self-awareness 2) that there would be such a backlash about his poorly phrased but not illegitimate bit on indie record store elitism

he made an honest mistake and is also totally tone-deaf

Really the part I agreed with him on is that all new vinyl shouldn't be 20 bucks or more.

I wish he hadn't back-pedaled on the record store thing tbh. I mean he sort of "had to" (via the internet) but I think what he said was provocative if poorly worded. I really enjoyed reading the Numero Group guy's "Record Store Day is bullshit" thing earlier this year. The romantic kneejerk defending of all record stores will die sooner or later, especially with the next generation of music consumers reaching maturity and not simply "not caring" about buying music in a store, but never having that experience at all. That shift will have profound consequences but the "OMG we have to save record stores or culture will die" reactionary bit hear from some corners is a really naive way to look at things.

Record stores are never going to completely die. They're going to dwindle in number and become very specialist, but I don't see them ever completely disapearing.

we're a hair's breadth away from the death of CDs (once best buy takes 'em out it'll be game over) but it's naive to think record stores are going away anytime soon, in my area there are several and a new one just opened up

xp what jon said

like used bookstores xp

there's no question in my mind that his whole rant was about independent stores. it's interesting that he goes right from that straight to talking about how awesome "free" music is. no mention of itunes or buying direct from labels online. definitely an ill thought rant and he deserves any blow-back he gets.

that said, i voted for the ringtone rant as his most tedious.

I didn't read this thread but I will

maus has been giving interviews like this for years btw

he's a philosophy adjunct professor at some university iirc

kind of wish maus was british so we could get some better whiney posts in here

ok I read a couple posts in this thread now

he's a philosophy adjunct professor at some university iirc

I believe he's actually a TA or tutor, rather than a professor. I'm pretty sure that he hasn't got his PhD, he's still a graduate student. For instance, I don't think he's published or anything. I only bring this up since it's something that gets continually mentioned in his bio or on blogs, but there seems to be some confusion.

he is a professor in my heart then

A response via Marathonpacks:

http://marathonpacks.tumblr.com/post/8475820060/a-defense-of-john-maus-and-bratty-artists

This is superb.

the most offensive thing about this whole interview is that i just listened to some of his music and it is awful

no, it's the misremembered nostalgia of childhood past, a memory fog of our shared times of wonder and innocence... IDIOT

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his music reminds me of Andrew Eldritch singing lullabies

you heard of Andrew W K?
well, this is Andrew single-U K.

more like buffalo bill freestyling over cut rate tangerine dream maybe. xpost

buffalo bill freestyling over cut rate tangerine dream

Accurate and complimentary.

you heard of Andrew W K?
well, this is Andrew single-U K.

― Ask The Answer Man (sexyDancer), Thursday, August 4, 2011 10:10 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark

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hello this is john maus, please listen to my new album on spotify

those are some weird ass descriptions for what just sounds like some fairly decent synthpop

That rat's cute.

yeah, what a cute rat!

he's a mouse!

John Mouse
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Mouse John:
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