Remember the POLL: The Michael Jackson "Dangerous" Poll

WHO IS IT?!?

I have a soft spot for "Will You Be There?" though (I've watched Free Willy on VHS sooooooo many times), also "In The Closet" and "Rememebr the Time" r dope.

For me it's Why You Wanna Trip on Me?

Love the hollered melodic chorus, the New Jack Swing beat, and everything about it.

Great album, really only two tracks I don't like I think?

This was playing the other week when I wandered through the local Borders (mostly to boggle at the huge crush for useless markdowns) and "Remember the Time" sounded perfect in that context.

btw on my brass band's upcoming record, we're doing two songs from each mj album. for this one it's 'why you wanna trip on me' and 'black or white' ('remember the time' was already on a previous album).

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and a bunch of songs that sound like "Jam"

This would be a good thing, right?

Remember The Time!

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Missed this, but I probably wouldn't have voted anyway because I cannot pick a favourite. Two thirds of this album is superb, and the recording/mixing/general production is squeaky clean.

and no votes for "Black or White!"

listening to this today and it's still not better than bad but boy is "black or white" twenty times more incredible than it already is as it blasts out of "heal the world."

also i apparently have the version of this record where "black or white" is (rightly) the single edit

Dangerous feels much less dated than Bad to me. Also I can't stand Bad these days.

it's a shame Jam got no votes, but other than that GOOD WORK ILM

wtf is with a 4 day poll, give it at least a week! i feel terrible that my lack of knowledge of this thread resulted in a goose egg for "Jam."

featuring rap by HEAVY D

"Who is It" definitely deserved to come in second, no matter how many people participated. Song's got layers.

yea that song's hot.

IS IT A FRIEND OF MI-INEEEEEEEEEEEEE?

Just wondering if anyone thinks Bad is a better record than Dangerous. Because I wasn't sure.

poll

xp The intro skit on "Black or White" is the WORST

the sad part about having this version of the record is that it also cuts the intro to "will you be there"

I figured five days was long enough for an album as popular as Dangerous. I've started week and ten-day long polls which got less responses.

oh i know, i just wasn't online as much this week and was bummed i missed this. still think a week minimum should be standard though.

yeah really shocked at the 0 votes for "Jam". thought "Black or White" would at least get one too.

KEEP IT IN THE CLOSET

Popmatters publishes an admirable attempt to rescue Dangerous from Nirvana.

That article just reconfirms why I prefer Nevermind to Dangerous - it's simply more consistent. Right, all that death of pop stuff was/is baloney. But the author fails to convince that the momentum-killing ballads are worth anyone's time. In fact, he barely mentions them and certainly doesn't submit them to the same detailed analysis as the rhythm monsters. The first six cuts are my vote for MJ's finest ever moment so I particularly despise "Heal the World" for stopping the train.

Then again, Eric Weisbard wrote a provocative blurb in that year's Pazz disdaining "inhumanely consistent" product like Nevermind. I'm paraphrasing from fuzzy memory but basically, he claimed that Garth Brooks' Ropin' the Wind and Dangerous were better models for democracy because they contained genuinely godawful songs.

And yeah, best track here is "Jam."

The first six cuts are my vote for MJ's finest ever moment so I particularly despise "Heal the World" for stopping the train.

This, this time a billion. Fortunately we are able to DELETE the duds and be left with a wall of top treats.

This album is really good!! "Jam", "Keep The Faith", "Black or White", "Will You Be There", etc

the 33 1/3 on this is so far pretty good and very very mad

thread also sort of revived to talk about how massive "in the closet" is

'Why You Wanna Trip On Me'... great backing vocals.

http://www.vice.com/read/meet-the-guy-who-did-the-rap-on-michael-jacksons-black-or-white-213

wow!

I'm no music expert, but I can't think of an earlier example of a huge pop star having a rapper come into their song for a guest verse about two-thirds of the way through the track (something that has become pretty ubiquitous today, on everything from Rihanna's "Umbrella" to Justin Bieber's "Beauty and a Beat"). I asked Bottrell if he had been the first person to do this, and he said, though he had never really thought about it before, he couldn't think of a song where someone had done this before him.

hmmmm

Chris Molanphy pointed out on Twitter that "Black or White" wasn't even the first #1 hit with a guest rap. (That was "She Ain't Worth It," by Glenn Medeiros ft. Bobby Brown.)

Listening to this over the weekend, it struck me how much of an influence this album had over the following two decades. Justin Timberlake's Jacko worship hasn't gone underreported but it wasn't Thriller and Bad he was listening to growing up, it was this.

Does anyone else think "Will you be there" borrows a lot from "Lions after slumber" Scritti, at the end?

I'm reading the 33 1/3 book. pretty interesting (if not totally convincing on all theories and lectures).
I never really liked this album although I was a huge fanboy of MJ as a kid (circa Thriller mostly).
The book made me want to go back to it. I still don't find it great (production and songwriting are not on par with his best stuff to me) but I like it more.
Especially "Who is it" which I have rediscovered and which is maybe my favourite from the album now.
Also, I have tried to take it as a double album (no reorganization, album 1 simply ending with "Heal the World" and album 2 starting with "Black or White" - minus the horrible intro).
It makes a more digest album with 7 tracks on each disc, the 1 being the harder part and the 2 being the soulful part.

"Who Is It?" is fantastic, also my favorite song on the album.

^^^

And it doesn't seem to matter
And it doesn't seem right
'Cause the will has brought
No fortune
Still I cry alone at night
Don't you judge of my composure
'Cause I'm lying to myself
And the reason why she left me
Did she find someone else ?

I have finished the 33 1/3 book. good and original point of view and analysis.
It made me reevaluate the album.
after listening to it a lot lately I still find it far from OTW/Thriller but overall, it's stronger than I remembered.
I might like it more than Bad now : no real dud (compared to "Speed Demon", "Dirty Diana", "Bad" and "Can't Stop Loving You" for instance, "Gone too Soon" being the closest) and some good songs I didn't really like previously ("Who is It" being the main rediscovery, as said before).
Also, "Jam" is alright but a bit weak as an opener. A bit later, "Scream" was a better remake. They share the same approach and energy but the former has a better chorus.

I'll give you "Speed Demon" but IMO the only sin committed by those other songs off of Bad is that they are in close proximity to "The Way You Make Me Feel" and "Smooth Criminal", which are two of my favorite songs that MJ ever recorded.

Well I have always found "Bad" very average. Not awful but the production/sound is kinda cheap (which is a shame since it is one of the strongest aspects of OTW/Thriller. Just the sound of these albums gives me joy !).
"Can't Stop Loving You" also is not awful but meh.
"Dirty Diana" is annoying in the delivery and arrangements and not a very good song to begin with ("Give in To Me" is a better remake).
I have made a version of Bad without these tracks and it's much better !

The only thing I like about "Bad" is that it reminds me of Stevie Wonder's "Ordinary Pain" (the last part of the song) !

the synth bass runs in "speed demon" >>>>>>

there is literally nothing better on this album than Jacko screaming "remember...my BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY"

yeah esp since the song had already ended