just going to go ahead and have a Captain America: The Movie thread

and while one studio isn't responsible for all of them, surely all studios knew what the others' summer schedules were. so they must have figured there was an inexhaustible market for this stuff.

well there sort of is isn't there? Thor, X-Men and Transformers are all in the year's top 10 box office gross so far. why would any rational studio say "hey, let's sit this summer out and give someone else a turn"? Fox basically had to make the X-men movie to keep their license, and Marvel is doing what they can with the second rate characters they have the rights to. And that involves quickly putting out Thor and Captain America movies so they can try to make Avengers into something that's as big as X-Men or Spiderman (neither of which they will ever have the movie rights to again).

The only big flop has been Green Lantern, so it would make more sense to complain about the shit DC puts out.

FWIW Captain America is better than the other three comic-based summer flicks from this year

This movie was hella corny and boring.

Sample dialogue from a fight scene:

Bad guy: "You never give up, do you?"
Captain: "Nope!"

Bleh.

Could someone who has seen it comment on the action:dialog ratio. My kid and I have been to every movie in this Avengers sequence, but for some reason he is convinced that this one will have "too much grown-ups talking".

I thought it was a pretty decent balance, and the action scenes are well-shot. Plus, every single word out of Tommy Lee Jones's mouth is gold. He's basically playing "Gen. Tommy Lee Jones" but his performance is the unsung hero of the movie. Dominic Cooper is good, too.

xxpost That sounds like some typical Simon & Kirby dialogue! I've got to see this.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/captain.jpg

I enjoyed this.

I like you, CAPTAIN AMERICA the movie.

The plot-heavy bits involving lasers and girders were alright, but I was surprised by the emotional investment I put in. That last line in the movie packed a mighty punch for me.

Just saw this, enjoyed it. Was a bit disappointed that they didn't bother to name the Howling Commandos, but by and large a good matinee affair.

i though this kinda stunk.

took solace amid the endless montages with the supporting cast. tell me hugo weaving wasn't just doing a werner herzog impression the whole time?

you can't unhear it now can you.

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fell asleep in this

Sounds like I should be glad I took my kid to Cowboys & Aliens instead. It was definitely an entertaining action movie, if not exactly "Ordinary People" or whatever...

I thought this wasn't too bad, most likely the best of the summer comic book flicks of 2011, but that isn't really saying a whole lot. Tommy Lee Jones was over the top in all the right ways and Dominic Cooper made a great Howard Stark. Loved the guy playing Dum Dum Dugan too, wouldn't mind seeing more of him in other movies, but thats not likely with him stuck in the 40s and the rumored next Cap movie set in the present day.

i thought the ending was kinda...pat?

The ending was 100% to set up the Avengers flick, which was really my only complaint. I mean, I'm super excited for the Avengers movie but can we let these other films stand on their own?

tell me hugo weaving wasn't just doing a werner herzog impression the whole time?

Yeah, he's talked about this in interviews. Quite an accurate one too

haha love it

Has anyone talked about the planet of the apes trailer anywhere because lol.

I thought this was OK but not great. TLJ and Tucci were p good as was the lead. Something was missing overall and I thought it was a little boring.

It was kinda boring wasn't it? I really thought i'd love it too

too much of the captain's operations were glossed over in montage. i don't know why movies do this, the kinds of 'learning' scenes of a hero figuring out how to be a hero are the most exciting. it just skipped from him being a show pony to a badass, which is just ho-hum.

and the dialogue was really childish.

i dunno anything about red skull or 'hydra', but i thought making him a rogue to the point of being against the germans was weirdly excusing of fascism? like johnston didn't even want the to deal with the realness at all, as if 'raiders of the lost ark' was too much like 'the sorrow and the pity' or something.

I don't really see how Raiders was anymore realistic?

I had the same thoughts about them ducking the issue of fascism by making Hydra even turn against the Nazis, but then I remembered that this was a movie about super-serum and a man being frozen for 70 years.

captain america fought nazis! what the hell, why get squeamish now

Easier to sell toys that don't come with swastikas, basically.

It's not like they made up Hydra for the film. They're probably sowing the seeds for their appearance in future movies too

In order to become a member of HYDRA, an individual must be a legal adult willing to submit to a thorough investigation of the applicant's personal background and to swear a death-oath of loyalty to HYDRA and its principles.

Glad to know they thoroughly vet all their members

lol hydra background check

Thought this was a lot better than ok.

Highlights-

Kid chucked in water to create 'him or me' dilemma being all 'wtf i can swim go get im'

Cpt America sneaking into HYDRA base is quite clearly spotted crossing the floor by one of the workers, who just isn't bothered tbh

Thank fuck it was about beating evil bad guys, was quite worried it might go the Nolan route of SRS ISSUES THRU SPANDEX

Peggy was incredible

Well the Marvel films in general are a lot more light-hearted than the Nolanverse. As they should be. Peggy was pretty great yeah. Pity that's the last we're going to see of her

Kid chucked in water to create 'him or me' dilemma being all 'wtf i can swim go get im'

this ruled

^^ LOL yeah I forgot about that, that kid is my hero

Well the Marvel films in general are a lot more light-hearted than the Nolanverse. As they should be.

This is one of the reasons I enjoyed this movie. It was like an old Captain America comic, it wasn't trying to be edgy or dark in an attempt to be more modern.

The kid in the water and Tommy Lee Jones ruled ("I'm not gonna kiss you"). The rest = bleh

in retrospect the whole thing was kind of a bland saturday morning cartoon. the word 'toyetic' was made for this movie

I forgot how much fun TLJ can be in Fugitive mode.

dug this the first time through, but the second, i really noticed how aimless and overstretched the second half is. still a pretty good time, though.

xp yeah, he's a guy where i never hold it against him when he sleepwalks through a movie because hes usually still a lot of fun

hayley atwell is some kind o' somethin'

otm.

but seriously, i did like they chose an actress who is hot in precisely the same way as 1940s actresses were hot.

overall this was alright. TLJ is was good. surprised he doesn't get these kind of roles more often. maybe he doesn't take them.

uh

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2013/03/22/captain-america-2-robert-redford/

Almost sounds like he's doing it for shits and giggles.

tbf at his age neither come easy

Legal Piddles

I saw that movie in a theater, so bad.

I just remember a bunch of shitty/stupid ads for that thing running endlessly and "Love Touch" constantly being on the radio. Fuckin' 1985.

He's at least awake in LE. And Terence Stamp is fun.

Finally watched this. Pretty similar to Iron Man in that I was way more into the first half of it than I thought I'd be, then really lost my connection with it as it moved from the origin to the 'action' and the climactic fight with the bad guy. It sort of rallied itself for the big finish with the plane; I loved how kind of tame and 40s and melodramatic they played it, like, yeah, you know what, in 2011 you can still get tears to well up with just a guy and the gal who like each other (but have never even held hands) having their last conversation while he goes off to be a hero, etc. Just wish it had been built up to that a little better... feel like a lot of movies these days have this too-smooth CGI quality and I think that applies to the plotting too sometimes, it just kind of slides its way along from the baddie fight scene to the sacrifice etc.

Agree that giving the bad guys bloodless ray guns and having them not be Nazis was a super disappointing head-scratcher. I mean, I'm fine with it being the Red Skull and Hydra goons but can they have a little more ideology, something to really make you hate them? The movie's fucking Captain America, I think the time for subtlety has passed. That being said, I was just over the moon for the idea of Cap as a seasoned USO entertainment veteran who's "punched out Hitler over two hundred times" - it's cute, it adds tons of period flavor, makes everybody feel more like people than CGI people, which I think was a real risk with this potentially one-note, personality-less character and this kind of blank, bland actor.

Overall, not the worst of these things I've seen.