― Paul, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Sean Carruthers, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Lord Custos II, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Tom, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Sure, you could do that...but trust me, some records sound more interesting when you do it this way.
And in the next cubicle is Calum Roberts yelling "Turn that bloody racket down, Raggett!" as he cranks up his new Kylie CD.
Now, personally speaking I don't give two hoots about the 'you have to listen to it upside down drinking Tizer while masturbating with the volume turned straight up' bollocks... that sounds like you're apologising for the sheer shiteness of the album and trying to defend it.
Nor, personally, do I care if there is any bass in there either.
No, no, no... my entire point was asking if I'm alone (well, my girlfriend hates it too) in thinking it's utter, utter tunelss bollocks. Judging by the respones to this thread, the band still has its defenders - and that's cool. I was simply passing an opinion and wondering if any like minded people thought that Loveless was shite.
Thanks to those that understood and responded with due intelligence.
― Calum Robert, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― N., Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
(I assume you mean tuneless). WTF? It is gloriously tuneful! Try 'Come in Alone' for starters - how can you not hear the tune(s)? Ok, they're presented in an unusual way, but SURELY you can't be serious? TUNELESS? Pah!
― Dr. C, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
I presume you've had those moments...and I presume when you're describing them to others, you're not defending but explaining rapture. Just a little something to keep in mind.
Still, it's a great record though, isn't it? Now listening to 'Off Your Face' from the 'Glider' 12". Giddying, effervescent.
'you have to listen to it upside down drinking Tizer while masturbating with the volume turned straight up'
Must try this.
― DavidM, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― mark s, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Chewshabadoo, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
I tried that and it didn't work. Was it 'cuz I replaced the Tizer with malt liquor, or because I was drinking it though a Crazee-Twisty-Straw. Plus is made the blood rush to wrong head.
This is probably the truest thing I've ever read on ILM.
― Dan Perry, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― electric sound of jim, Monday, 22 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Lee G, Tuesday, 23 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Matt Riedl, Sunday, 23 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Marc, Sunday, 23 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― abby, Monday, 8 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Julio Desouza, Monday, 8 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
Me, too. I don't much bother listening to MBV at home, but my most intense gig moment EVER was MBV at the Ritz in Manchester in '92 or '93. The tweeters blew, our ribcages vibrated disturbingly, and a good deal of plaster was shaken from the ceiling. I was utterly transported, better than drugs.
― Zora (Zora), Monday, 9 December 2002 22:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 9 December 2002 23:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mal2478, Tuesday, 10 December 2002 00:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 00:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 00:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
*I* give a toss about the bass. Drums'n'bass are the most important parts of modern music IMHO, and they are the weekest bits BY FAR of this record, which makes it odd that Loveless is my favorite album. Plodding, static drums and dull bass playing sit lamely next to the fantastic melodies, harmonies and textures. A bit of funk to reinforce the wash would be bliss.
I was musing the other day that I love the album so much because my mind is filling in what the rhythm section (well, actually Kevin Shields - I believe he programmed the drums and played the bass) should have done . Isn't Anything is so much more fascinating from a rhythmic perspective, and You Made Me Realise is a step above even that - (ROCKIST ALERT) maybe it's because they recorded as an actual band for these records.
Primus suxxors BTW.
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 00:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 00:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 00:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 00:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
Could we please have an edit text function for all us pedants?.
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Bosse-De-Nage (Bosse-De-Nage), Saturday, 8 March 2003 08:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 8 March 2003 09:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
― kate (suzy), Saturday, 8 March 2003 09:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 8 March 2003 09:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
Loveless is hands-down one of the best records I have ever heard in my whole sad life. I don't mind your not liking it, Robert, but I must admit that it wounds me in some deep and irrational way when you call it "bollocks" and "shite" (not least of all because such slang is irritating to my American ears).
And besides, since you hate this record and I love it so very much, I wonder about perhaps a fundamental difference in the way we hear music. You know the old saw about "does everyone see the color orange the same way?" Based on this evidence, I would have to say no.
Unless of course your copy of the album was a misprint, and you ended up with The Future Sound of London's The Isness by mistake. In that case, I completely agree with you.
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 8 March 2003 09:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Bruce Urquhart (Bruce Urquhart), Saturday, 8 March 2003 09:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 8 March 2003 17:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
I say all this as someone who isn't a huge fan or anything and I don't listen to the album much. While it isn't necessarily native territory for me, I don't find it difficult in the way I find, say, Sonic Youth (who are native territory, sort of) difficult.
Or am I being reductive and missing something?
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 8 March 2003 18:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 8 March 2003 18:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 8 March 2003 18:20 (twenty-one years ago) link
― rex jr., Saturday, 8 March 2003 18:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Vinnie (vprabhu), Sunday, 9 March 2003 02:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
you could pass for an american college student!
wait the average american college student listens to MBV, Velvet Underground & sonic youth ?
― lukevalentine, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 02:15 (fourteen years ago) link
the glider ep was the first valentines i heard.. don't ask why and off your face completely bent my teenage brain
― "your shades, man, they're shite..." (electricsound), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 02:15 (fourteen years ago) link
hi these guys suck
― farting irl (cankles), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 02:29 (fourteen years ago) link
u put on loveless and when the first song comes on ure like 'YAAAAAAH this sounds like a dying elephant it is awesome' but then the whole thing sounds exctly like that and u just go :/
― farting irl (cankles), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 02:30 (fourteen years ago) link
my fave MBV stuff will always be loveless, glider, tremelo, and the feed me with yer kiss 12 inch. isn't anything is a weak sister compared to that stuff. and i say again like i've said before: if you've never heard feed me with yer kiss 12 inch u.k. version and only heard the album version than you have never ever heard that song.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 02:32 (fourteen years ago) link
geez ian all you had to do was ask
check out the ep you made me realise, came out right before isn't anything, not as fuzzy, more poppy, but still good stuff
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 03:04 (fourteen years ago) link
a compilation of their four creation eps would be better than both albums imo
― "your shades, man, they're shite..." (electricsound), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 03:06 (fourteen years ago) link
the creation 12" version is the one I'm thinking of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Made_Me_Realise
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 24 November 2009 03:08 (fourteen years ago) link
The first album and early singles are really good. Not sure why people care about Loveless so much.
― Spectrum, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 03:14 (fourteen years ago) link
errr, "first" = Isn't Anything.
*belatedly rushes in waving a Loveless flag*― my fave thing to do on the computer is what im doing right now (acoleuthic), Monday, November 23, 2009 11:33 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
― my fave thing to do on the computer is what im doing right now (acoleuthic), Monday, November 23, 2009 11:33 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
this mental image is killing me
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 24 November 2009 04:25 (fourteen years ago) link
J gets bummed by #Lemmy: Deb of #mybloodyvalentine w/ @jmascis
http://instagram.com/p/d4yz0ezc1K/
― scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:57 (ten years ago) link
No lie: I would see her lead a Motorhead tribute band.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 September 2013 21:07 (ten years ago) link
original thread question : more in '13 than '02 when this thread was started.
― mark e, Thursday, 5 September 2013 22:14 (ten years ago) link
My Bloody Valentine - Sometimes for strings and electronics
― Caput Johannis in Disco (Tom D.), Saturday, 28 November 2015 13:32 (eight years ago) link
*intrigued*
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 28 November 2015 14:16 (eight years ago) link
feed me with your kiss VS when you wake you're still in a dream
and also are there songs that are better played at earsplitting volume? if there are just point me that way
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 01:33 (eight years ago) link
Imma go to this, I might sneak my recorder
― MaresNest, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 10:10 (eight years ago) link
Sometimes is their indiest number - proper mumblecore - but good way to get some punters in.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 10:27 (eight years ago) link
Not that I'm going as I think this is MORALLY wrong
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 10:29 (eight years ago) link
"Imma go to this, I might sneak my recorder"
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41-SNHbzSvL._SX522_.jpg
― You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 13:28 (eight years ago) link
That's exactly what I thought... maybe correctly?
― Otago Imago (Tom D.), Tuesday, 1 December 2015 13:30 (eight years ago) link
I had a feeling that might happen
― MaresNest, Tuesday, 1 December 2015 16:56 (eight years ago) link