Say Something *NEW* about the Beatles...

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according to lou reed in dave thompson's (or simpson's? can't remember) 'beyond the velvet underground' epstein offered to manage them but they turned him down as they knew he would always concentrate more on the beatles. sounds apochryphal to me.

in 1966 paul mccartney told roger mcguinn to ditch the rickenbacker and granny glasses as he didn't much like them.

debden, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 15:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Should I? Shouldn't I? Oh, fuck it, why not. At least it's something *NEW*...

(I dunno, these schmucks off the Internet and their Exclusive! Undiscovered! Rarities!)

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 15:27 (nineteen years ago) link

During the Let It Be sessions, they discussed having Flava Flav guest rap on their next album.

The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 15:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Dog Man Star is fab.

Here's another:

They never did a song as good as Little Animal by the Raveonettes which is quite possibly the second best song of the past ten years.

Zarr, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link

PAUL you need is love.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 15:38 (nineteen years ago) link

"Your Mother Should Know" is a pop masterpiece

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, that's never happened before.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:26 (nineteen years ago) link

The walrus was George.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Ed Sullivan, a true patriot, recognizing the Fabs' true rivals not as those limey Stones, would introduce The Beatles on his show as "The BEACHles." Listen.

the hard structure of the world, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:27 (nineteen years ago) link

the title "Flaming Pie" was actually suggested by Yoko

Aaron A., Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link

.. only she didn't say "Flaming"

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Or "Pie", come to think of it...

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:32 (nineteen years ago) link

They left a legend that will last a lunchtime. No wait.

Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:36 (nineteen years ago) link

The Beatles were responsible for the famous Kia Ora 'too orangey for crows' advertising campaign, but refused to take credit after a disagreement about the style of the crow's hats ended in an emotionally distressed and bare-chested Paul McCartney being forcibly removed from one focus group by police and delayed the UK launch of the popular fruit squash by over a decade.

coco, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Exactly who the "fifth Beatle" was has been endlessly debated. Yet virtually no-one has ever called into question my personal status as the 315477th Beatle.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:50 (nineteen years ago) link

The rights to the majority of the Beatles' catalogue can be had in exchange for just one boy under 14

Aaron A., Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:54 (nineteen years ago) link

I meant crows', obviously

coco, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 16:55 (nineteen years ago) link

The rights to the majority of the Beatles' catalogue can be had in exchange for just one boy under 14

I think he already sold those rights, as he couldn't afford to keep them. You have to pay quite an amount for a good lawyer, you know...

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 17:06 (nineteen years ago) link

> "someday Emanuel Lewis will have a strong comeback career as a serious actor..."

Coincidentally (or not!), today is little Emmanuel's birthday.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 17:09 (nineteen years ago) link

If you sit motionless and stare at the front cover of Magical Mystery Tour upside-down in a mirror long enough, you'll eventually die of starvation.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 17:11 (nineteen years ago) link

An estimated 80% of heroin addicts started by using cannabis. And a startling 98% of alcoholics started with milk.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 17:16 (nineteen years ago) link

"Your Mother Should Know" is a pop masterpiece

-- Geir Hongro (geirhon...), March 9th, 2005.

I love Geir! So true...

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link

OTOH, "Penny Lane" "Paperback Writer" "Eleanor Rigby" "Drive My Car" and a thousand other Beatles classic are actually kinda lame

Aaron A., Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:10 (nineteen years ago) link

classicS (i am not saying something new tho i guess)

Aaron A., Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Ringo Starr played all the drums on Rammstein's Sehnsucht album

actually, def leppard's on through the night and judas priest's british steel were both recorded at ringo starr's house. actual true fact!

fact checking cuz (fcc), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:40 (nineteen years ago) link

OTOH, "Penny Lane" "Paperback Writer" "Eleanor Rigby" "Drive My Car" and a thousand other Beatles classic are actually kinda lame

This has been said before, by lots of people who were not yet 5 years old when The Beatles broke up in 1970, plus Thousands of fans of metal, R&B, funk, soul, hip-hop, jazz, rock'n'roll, classical, avant garde, electronica, dance or other musical styles that The Beatles rarely touched.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:52 (nineteen years ago) link

"Martha My Dear" and "Honey Pie" are pop masterpieces.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:58 (nineteen years ago) link

I have already said that in other threads, Tim ;)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 18:59 (nineteen years ago) link

"You Know My Name (Look Up the Number)" invented reggae.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:01 (nineteen years ago) link

There's no frickin' way John is saying "cranberry sauce" at the end of "Strawberry Fields."
It sounds like "I buried Paul" clear as a bell to these ears.

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:04 (nineteen years ago) link

And the very best Beatle songs are the "non-hits" such as "What You're Doing," "Every Little Thing," "Baby's in Black," "I Don't Want to Spoil the Party," "Tell Me What You See," "And Your Bird Can Sing," "You Won't See Me," "I'm Looking Through You" and "Run for Your Life."

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:08 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.norwegianwood.org/beatles/norwood/images/drumlo17.jpg

Oh, wait. You said about, not by...

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Richard Meltzer said a lot of new things about the Beatles in The Aesthetics of Rock.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:18 (nineteen years ago) link

listen, this is just between us, but I'm John. seriously. i faked that whole shit. Mark David Chapman agreed to go down in exchange for a flash from Yoko. if you don't believe me i'll show you the birthmark on my ass.

Lee F# (fsharp), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:44 (nineteen years ago) link

It wasn't Paul who was apparently killed in an accident. It was Ringo. True.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 19:52 (nineteen years ago) link

John died.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:16 (nineteen years ago) link

They were like one of the few major acts to get a good reissue campaign when CDs came in. (Not really new, but it's rarely said.)

Doobie Keebler (Charles McCain), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:22 (nineteen years ago) link

"Baby You're A Rich Man" invented hip hop.

John Fredland (jfredland), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 22:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Or so the Fat Boys tried to tell us.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 22:31 (nineteen years ago) link

They were like one of the few major acts to get a good reissue campaign when CDs came in. (Not really new, but it's rarely said.)

but that's not true. they had a lousy reissue campaign, with questionable remastering, no bonus tracks and perfunctory packaging.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 22:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Ferlin Huskey, that was a brilliant reference (Francis Bacon)

Dot Dash, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 22:45 (nineteen years ago) link

two years pass...

I don't know which Beatles thread to post this in, so this'll have to do. I've been listening to "Sgt. Pepper" lately (40th anniversary and all) and there is a line in "She's Leaving Home" that has bugged me for many years. The line in question?

"Fun is the one thing that money can't buy."

My reasons for hating this line are thus:

1. Not three years before, the Beatles themselves informed us that money cannot buy love.
2. Of all the things that money can't buy, Macca lists FUN as the ONE THING that MONEY CAN'T BUY? Fun would seem to be one of the easier things to procure through the use of currency. Go see a movie or something, for Christ's sake.

God, I'm a nerd but I had to get this off of my chest.

Davey D, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 22:20 (sixteen years ago) link

that line bothered me too

Dominique, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 22:23 (sixteen years ago) link

oh wells

Tim Ellison, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 22:45 (sixteen years ago) link

i enjoyed reading johan kugelberg's beatles are so awesome piece in the old issue of ugly things with kim fowley on the cover the other day.

Tim Ellison, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 22:47 (sixteen years ago) link

As if Paul actually believed every line of lyric that he wrote. I always thought he was more into the idea of putting words together that sound good with the song, rather than emphasizing his words.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 22:52 (sixteen years ago) link

To be fair, the speaker in the other song mostly emphasizes that money can't buy HIM love, weakly suggesting that it can't buy YOU love as a sort of trailing afterthought.

nabisco, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 22:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Also the original 45 pressing had "YMMV" etched along the run-off groove.

nabisco, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 22:58 (sixteen years ago) link

xx-post

Agreed, fully! However, the rest of the song is so evocative (especially for Paul) and carefully put together that I'm surprised he chose such a cop-out line to conclude the whole story (and then stuck poor John with the task of delivering it).

Davey D, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 22:58 (sixteen years ago) link

how do you know john didn't write that line?

Tim Ellison, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 23:19 (sixteen years ago) link

urgh Goldman. i'm glad that book's pretty much been forgotten about in the UK. his lack of any decent footnotes AT ALL tells the real tale there imo.

the recently-edited-together live footage from Shea on the '1+' dvd (as a video for Eight Days A Week) looks killer, and seems to suggest the Shea footage has been remastered/cleaned-up for an upcoming release. possibly tied with the Ron Howard film?

piscesx, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 11:30 (seven years ago) link

that book is poorly sourced rubbish

akm, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 14:22 (seven years ago) link

It only had the one edition, I believe.

Mark G, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 22:14 (seven years ago) link

oh yeah, a lot of it is bullshit, but it's a great, grim read. like the opening scene of Lennon in the late-70s "smoking thai stick" in his Howard Hughes period. dark as all hell. and Goldman is just an insane writer, he's so nasty and obviously repressed - it comes out in the prose. a lot of very flowery penis descriptions and allusions

flappy bird, Wednesday, 22 June 2016 22:50 (seven years ago) link

yeah the goldman book isn't necessarily "good" as a reliable biography of an actual person but it's kind of a sick masterpiece. def remember being somewhat traumatized by a lot of it when i first read it as a teenage beatles fan. goldman's style is undeniably ridiculous and over-the-top but writing a 600+ page book without a single dull sentence in it is some kind of accomplishment.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 22 June 2016 23:44 (seven years ago) link

Did you read the Elvis book too, J.D.?

Poe, I know all about Ulalume (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 June 2016 23:57 (seven years ago) link

yeah, the elvis book is amazing and deplorable for similar reasons. for pure unadulterated goldman nastiness, though, you need his other elvis book:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41n1UB9KkML._SL500_SY344_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 23 June 2016 00:25 (seven years ago) link

That Goldman book opening: it's a young guy (named Kit?) couriering heroin up to John's Dakota apartment and the ensuing wasted ennui he sees, iirc. V memorable, given I read it 20+ years ago.

albvivertine, Thursday, 23 June 2016 06:51 (seven years ago) link

It's been a while since I read it but I remember the Goldman book being massively entertaining, and actually pretty good when talking about the actual music.

nate woolls, Thursday, 23 June 2016 07:12 (seven years ago) link

feel like the mark lewisohn book was so good and actually made the early days beatles story feel fresh i never want to read anyone else write anything about the beates except his next 2 upcoming books

Steve Gunn Mann-Dude (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 23 June 2016 20:56 (seven years ago) link

^^^

Οὖτις, Thursday, 23 June 2016 21:03 (seven years ago) link

ha i should give it another try, got a little exhausted around page 150 ... though I"m excited for that level of detail on the actual Beatles years

tylerw, Thursday, 23 June 2016 21:05 (seven years ago) link

Lewisohn was very enthusiastic about the prospects for this film.

timellison, Thursday, 23 June 2016 21:29 (seven years ago) link

"Something new about the Beatles"

Mark G, Friday, 24 June 2016 11:05 (seven years ago) link

Cool band

Steve Gunn Mann-Dude (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 26 June 2016 02:56 (seven years ago) link

As far as I can gather, the people of the Philippines are still more than a bit embarrassed about the way the Beatles were handled here.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Tuesday, 28 June 2016 05:55 (seven years ago) link

Yeah, "We're sorry about Imelda Marcos", they've said that a few times.

Mark G, Tuesday, 28 June 2016 07:45 (seven years ago) link

eight months pass...

#9 Dream sounds an awful lot like an Ariel Pink song, doesn't it? (or the other way round if you're offended by this comparison)

niels, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 11:51 (seven years ago) link

seven months pass...

^ yes, it does

flappy bird, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 19:33 (six years ago) link

https://i.redd.it/bea2nydimowz.jpg

flappy bird, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 19:33 (six years ago) link

A better thread would be "Say something about a band that aren't The Beatles"

(and I'll bet 'Carnival of Light' is terrible)

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Wednesday, 8 November 2017 19:58 (six years ago) link

haha, that's great

niels, Wednesday, 8 November 2017 21:14 (six years ago) link

eleven months pass...

I always thought "From Me to You" was the weakest of their early singles, but I like it more now - pretty classic Beatles.

timellison, Saturday, 3 November 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link


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