Shoegazer Revival - S/D

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Ditto on Workhouse if you are talking about the Oxford band. Saw them live and although they're one of those "only have two gears" bands, they were very enjoyable in a relentless yet beautiful way. Their guitarist had two delay/sampler pedals!

kate (kate), Friday, 13 June 2003 07:40 (twenty years ago) link

nine months pass...
The new Fennesz, the Delays, Mew, it's all coming back, woo!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 March 2004 20:12 (twenty years ago) link

haha "the new fennesz"...

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 29 March 2004 20:20 (twenty years ago) link

alright, so, i just added some Ecstasy of St. Theresa album to my "shopping cart." i did this because of the blurb on the website citing things like "fuzzy guitars" and "inaudible male and female vocals." but i ask you, denizens of ILX: is it good? what specifically is great that i will love? i typically don't like compilations, but are any of the currently in print ones a *quality* sample?

Ian Johnson (orion), Monday, 29 March 2004 20:23 (twenty years ago) link

okay, so just tell me if i'm making a mistake in buying pia fraus "in solarium" and the ecstasay of st. theresa "sussurate."

kthx.

Ian Johnson (orion), Monday, 29 March 2004 20:30 (twenty years ago) link

dude...

The Ecstacy Of Saint Theresa - S/D

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 29 March 2004 20:31 (twenty years ago) link

i am silly and should have thought of searching.

Ian Johnson (orion), Monday, 29 March 2004 20:46 (twenty years ago) link

the stratford 4: meh. there isn't much shoegazery about them despite how they seem to want their press to portray them.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Monday, 29 March 2004 21:25 (twenty years ago) link

tonevendor do good blurbs. i've never been disappointed taking a chance on a record based on their little spiels

the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 29 March 2004 21:36 (twenty years ago) link

it's still daniel from clairecords right?

fun fact: a looooooong before i was blessed with his friendship, occasional ilx0r msp did the website for clairecords. he is dreamy. seriously.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 29 March 2004 21:39 (twenty years ago) link

HI DO U GUYZ LIEK APPLESEED CAST?

Lil' Won Jilliams (ex machina), Monday, 29 March 2004 21:40 (twenty years ago) link

yep still the same peoples..

(xp)

the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 29 March 2004 21:41 (twenty years ago) link

That first Timonium record is just so very good.

Ian Grey (Ian_G), Monday, 29 March 2004 23:09 (twenty years ago) link

i have a video game that's soundtrack includes (aside from the hoodoo gurus!!!) a band named snowpatrol that do a song called "shouting games" which has a very Loveless inspired female melody during the chorus.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 29 March 2004 23:35 (twenty years ago) link

pia fraus is great, more propulsive(sometimes like rocketship, sometimes like lush) than a lot of current shoegaze stuff. my favorite band from estonia.

radio dept. are maybe the best pop shoegaze band, their newest ep 'pulling our weight' is great.

keith m (keithmcl), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 01:30 (twenty years ago) link

i haven't even been on this thread and i just got an email from someone called pete. whats up?

mullygrubber (gaz), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 01:35 (twenty years ago) link

OH NO SHOEGAZE SPAM

the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 01:36 (twenty years ago) link

this brings back memories of the blisscent list

the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 01:36 (twenty years ago) link

it was named "Shoegaze" and the mailer claimed to be an ilxor. did you get one jim?

mullygrubber (gaz), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 01:39 (twenty years ago) link

if i did it was probably to my hotmail addy so i'll know when i get home

the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 01:46 (twenty years ago) link

I Repeat:
Sianspheric
Landing
Paik

brg30 (brg30), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 02:02 (twenty years ago) link

Experimental Aircraft out of Austin are worth giving a listen - http://experimentalaircraft.com/

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 02:07 (twenty years ago) link

Mahogany needs to be mentioned on this thread, I think. Did they ever release anything after The Dream of a Modern Day? And are they still around?

Ryan WS (fffv), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 02:43 (twenty years ago) link

they are still around, andrew prinz has been doing lots of production work. the follow-up Connectivity was meant to be out by now but is still a little while away i think. the second Auburn Lull LP is out v soon though i gather

the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 02:44 (twenty years ago) link

they played some live dates not too long ago

the surface noise (electricsound), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 02:45 (twenty years ago) link

And while it's not shoegaze and they never have been per se, the new Church album is still required. Goddamn these guys are still great.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 02:46 (twenty years ago) link

i'm a fan of the pluramon and joy zipper records. pluramon's nice and crunchy, joy zipper not so rough, but divine nonetheless.

glenny g2003 (glenny g2003), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 09:23 (twenty years ago) link

Delays are LP of the week on Ken Bruce!

the blissfox, Tuesday, 30 March 2004 15:00 (twenty years ago) link

new auburn lull is out in early may. it will probably be very beautiful. manual is getting more and more slowdive-ish with each release

keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 01:20 (twenty years ago) link

new auburn lull is out in early may.

Ten years after the first one! Or so it seems.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 13:59 (twenty years ago) link

Sianspheric

YES! Especially The Sound of the Colour of the Sun. Absolute classic (if you're into shoegazer, that is).

rainman (rainman), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 14:14 (twenty years ago) link

not quite ten. more like six.

the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 21:22 (twenty years ago) link

I heard something great as I was renting videos at The Wherehouse (terrible store for music, mostly out of business for those who don't know). It sounded like something 'Loveless'-y, but not very "shoegaze" and it turned out to be Snow Patrol. Pretty good stuff actually. And the Mew is amazing, I would recommend it to anyone who thought they might like Smashing Pumpkins if it weren't for being annoyed by Corgan.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 22:07 (twenty years ago) link

haha spencer scroll up! maybe the same song.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 22:13 (twenty years ago) link

New bands that are influenced by shoegaze, but aren't "newgaze" or just rehashing old bands:

Mahogany
Pia Fraus
Brasilia
On!Air!Library!

All worthy of checking out.

goodies, Wednesday, 31 March 2004 22:23 (twenty years ago) link

I anti-recommend Los Halos.

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 22:24 (twenty years ago) link

haha spencer scroll up! maybe the same song.

whoops! I actually forgot to paste your post before mine. I figured out the track I heard was "Gleaming Auction", but other songs on the album, 'Final Straw' sound similar.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 22:44 (twenty years ago) link

I keep confusing Snow Patrol with Snowpony, every time I see the name. Has anyone heard the Snowpony album? Was it any good or was a awful?

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 22:47 (twenty years ago) link

it wasn't great. i loved the first two singles but the album lacked the same spark.

the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 22:48 (twenty years ago) link

the second Snowpony album (Sea Shanties for Spaceships) was better. a bit like Ruby. which seems like a contradiction, i realize, but it's really not.

echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 23:49 (twenty years ago) link

i didn't even know it existed!

the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 23:55 (twenty years ago) link

It's around. There's a two disc edition.

I vote for the Delays over Mew, they work better on some undefinable level, though both are quite fine. Fennesz is better than both, though. The Joshua Treble solo album that came out recently is a pretty good if not striking Fennesz-like release which has its moments of haze and gaze.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 31 March 2004 23:59 (twenty years ago) link

I'm really surprised you like the Delays over Mew. The Delays seem slightly non-descript, whereas Mew have much more interesting textures and are more histrionic, along Pumpkins lines. Have you checked out Snow Patrol? Check out "Gleam Auction". It's almost right in between those two bands. I think Fennesz is doing something that can't be compared to those "bands".

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 1 April 2004 00:07 (twenty years ago) link

whereas Mew have much more interesting textures and are more histrionic, along Pumpkins lines.

Are they? I have to be honest, I didn't sense that, it just seemed like, well, enjoyable shoegaze, and I definitely don't recall any Pumpkins-like ego-apocalypse. Even Stina Nordenstam singing on tracks didn't spark things up further. The Delays are fairly straightforward perhaps, but they've got a good producer in Graham Sutton and they know how to work in strange noises into their songs, and it was all in all more involving for me, by a hair I guess.

I think Fennesz is doing something that can't be compared to those "bands".

Which is part of the point, by demonstrating how to use haze for alternate purposes -- it's a seemingly obvious equation of gaze plus IDM with ridiculously grand results that tends to trump all the other recent attempts at same -- whereas all the new bands sound like...bands doing shoegaze. Which, as I thought while I listened to some Bethany Curve, isn't always enough anymore.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 April 2004 00:13 (twenty years ago) link

regarding the Mew record, I'm referring very specifically to the first three tracks from 'Frengers':

"Am I Wry? No"
"156"
"Snow Brigade"

There's *way* more going on with the arrangements and textures than anywhere on the Delays album, and the vocals go quite stratospheric at points.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 1 April 2004 00:36 (twenty years ago) link

But to get really Corganesque, you have to start babbling in your mind about all the demons of adolescence still on your back, then rant about churches abandoning you in the middle of ten-minute breakouts. You know, going for the gusto stuff. ;-)

Really, this is all based on first listens, and the Delays' hooks worked better than Mew's, and that always counts for something. As such, Mew really ultimately strike me as no more or less creative than the Delays, the latter just has a little certain something in the end results more.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 April 2004 00:50 (twenty years ago) link

(Keep in mind also that I saw the Church last night and they wipe the floor with both bands anyway, and Marty Willson-Piper is more of a stroppy guitar god moody bastard then either of them could muster. Woo!)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 April 2004 00:52 (twenty years ago) link

Well Ned, I will listen again to the Delays, and I would urge you to return to those specific tracks.

As for Fennesz, as much as I enjoy his records (and especially several of the tracks on 'Venice'), it just whets my appetite for something that's beautiful on more levels - whether it be a catchy melody, more propulsion, more rhythm etc. The best tracks on 'Venice' sound like 'Loveless' interstitials which is a high compliment, but they're not specifically why I always return to that record. Also, there's a Kevin Shields piece called "2" from his La La Human Steps collaboration which is perhaps his best pure texture track (I've only found a barely acceptable quality .mp3 unfortunately). It gives me that same ecstatic nausea that frankly, no other "shoegaze" artist can do.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 1 April 2004 00:57 (twenty years ago) link

Well Ned, I will listen again to the Delays, and I would urge you to return to those specific tracks.

One Delays track I'm thinking of has this bit of Sigur Ros-style 'beautiful' guitar noise, but they then proceed to make a hook out of that instead of floating off into the ether wibbling like Our Boys From Iceland. Really captured my ear, because it's a seemingly simple approach that adds some unexpected depth, and not in the 'oh it is art' sense, just in the 'hey, more going on!' sense.

it just whets my appetite for something that's beautiful on more levels - whether it be a catchy melody, more propulsion, more rhythm etc

Well that's why for me when Sylvian brings in the purring voice everything's all 'oh heavens, THIS is nice.' I hadn't even realized he was on there and I still haven't heard the stuff they did together last year, so it was quite striking how well the two combined.

ecstatic nausea

Mmmm, nausea. Needs to be more of that. Haven't been knocked sideways in a long, long while.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 April 2004 01:04 (twenty years ago) link

It's around. There's a two disc edition.

Yes there is (re: Snowpony), and the second disc is remarkable, being as it's tracks off the album remixed in a drum'n'bass stylee by, er, Moving Shadow's Rob Playford...

As a slight aside, I finally got my mitts on a copy of Lush's Gala compilation! Arrived in the post yesterday. My, is it lovely.

Oh, and as to the shouegazine revival, think I might've mentioned Sennen before, but I've only just found out they have a website. so ner.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 1 April 2004 08:51 (twenty years ago) link

it sounds marginally different to these ears, although i didn't listen carefully. i'm about to get on a train and disappear into the void that is london for the weekend, but i can bung you the MP3s next week if you want.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 27 October 2006 09:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned and Chris B, have you got this yet?

There's a lot of The Church in here as well as the obvious Shoegaze/Krautrock references. This is why I keep thinking you'd like it.

"Simple Solution" wouldn't be out of place on The Blurred Crusade or Remote Luxury.

Going Through The Motions (kate), Friday, 27 October 2006 12:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned and Chris B, have you got this yet?

Er um uh. (Meaning, soonish?) Meantime I will be reviewing the Like a Daydream comp for the AMG, roxor.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 October 2006 13:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned and Chris B, have you got this yet?

They sent me a MySpace friend request awhile back that I never got around to answering. I'll give them a listen...

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 27 October 2006 16:53 (seventeen years ago) link

It's real Delays weather here.

RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Monday, 30 October 2006 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link

six years pass...

serious question--does the revival ever end? What's it like in the UK?

Seems like there's a lot more shoegazer/dreampop floating to the surface this year.

The Great Forgiver (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 01:57 (eleven years ago) link

It is all kinda eternal at this point. For good/ill.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 01:59 (eleven years ago) link

never forget

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3xATi5s9-A

hoda nkotb (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 15:04 (eleven years ago) link

i don't think it's going anywhere

saw these guys the other day and quite enjoyed it, though the melodies are a bit weak at times

http://pearlsgirlspearls.bandcamp.com/

Im am... gobsacked (electricsound), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 22:41 (eleven years ago) link

lol Ned check this out

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2013/apr/12/shoegazing-back-in-fashion

The Great Forgiver (dandydonweiner), Saturday, 13 April 2013 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

seven months pass...

It was a great year for shoegazers and dreampop

Multiple Miggs (dandydonweiner), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 00:02 (ten years ago) link

And the new Alcest is just going to drive it even higher next year.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 00:17 (ten years ago) link

Shoegaze "was one of the wimpiest genres" of the 1990s. As opposed to "gangsta rap", I suppose.

Sweetfrosti (I M Losted), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 02:15 (ten years ago) link

sometimes it seems like a lot of the black metal stuff is really just renamed shoegazerz

Multiple Miggs (dandydonweiner), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 03:07 (ten years ago) link

No joke, I pretty much got into black metal via the stuff where the guitars sounded shoegaze-y to me.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 09:33 (ten years ago) link

thew new Chambermaids is great....lots of shoegaze stuff/dream/psych stuff in mpls these days
http://chambermaids.bandcamp.com/

Southern Lorde (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 15:06 (ten years ago) link

OTM

Multiple Miggs (dandydonweiner), Wednesday, 4 December 2013 12:49 (ten years ago) link

nine months pass...

I really dig the new album (never heard the previous one TBH) from The History Of Apple Pie.
This is the first video/single from the album and it's also my favorite song, though I like the whole disc:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M80Rn843dKI

I wasn't sure what 2014 rolling thread to put this in and I didn't think the band was popular enough to devotre a new thread to so here it is! Hopefully someone likes it...

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 2 October 2014 13:46 (nine years ago) link

Previous album was good, haven't heard this new one but I'll check it out!

bippity bup at the hotel california (Phil D.), Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:36 (nine years ago) link

Really enjoyed their first album and looking forward to spending time with this.

boxedjoy, Thursday, 2 October 2014 19:57 (nine years ago) link

it's a nice little record - oddly the two singles they preceded it with seem to be the two most out-of-place things on it

outback bumfuc (electricsound), Thursday, 2 October 2014 22:38 (nine years ago) link

mentioned elsewhere but the two most recent album releases on shelflife - hobbes fanclub and luxembourg signal - both have sweetly shoegazey elements in amongst the jangle

outback bumfuc (electricsound), Thursday, 2 October 2014 22:39 (nine years ago) link

and come recommended

outback bumfuc (electricsound), Thursday, 2 October 2014 22:39 (nine years ago) link


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