Being sexually attracted to (or repulsed by) certain racial types: the acceptable face of racism?

Ah, now we're getting somewhere.

i wonder if isobel campbell is islamic

Be careful not to drop it, it's kinda slippery.

and then paint more pictures with that.

Yes, but then you can't judge a person who loves a certain racial type a priori (*face value* har har) or just because s/he's now in a relationship with someone from a different race. Something I sadly do tend to do despite realizing it's also *bad*. Vice versa: I equally dislike Japanese women for *hunting* down a caucasian guy because of what he represents (according to her/Japanese culture). It's too complicated.

it's not racist to not have found people from certain racial types attractive.

it may be racist to make remarks such as "i don't find asians attractive"

also, sexual attraction often has to do with familiarity, and so clearly you're more likely to be attracted to someone of your own culture (note the word culture i.e. not necessary race).

i think using "short-sighted" in a derogatory sense such as this is bigotted, arrogant discrimination against the disabled.

I think it's only fair to point that out.

(x-post: I meant COMIC and WITTY form.)

Well, I often find both Asian and black folks attractive, and it might be exactly because to me they're "exotic"; Finland's immigrant population is rather small, so the exoticness comes from that.

(personally I totally go for pale-skinned caucasians, but there ya go)

Yeah, I wasn't arguing with you, just wanted to make a point. But i think the familiarity thing has more to do with what sort of personalities you find attractive. For example, I might find Hindu women sexually attractive, but the cultural differences might be an obstacle (not an unpassable one, obviously) if I actually dated one.

ive noticed that there are some racial groups i find more sexually attractive in general (white/latin/oriental/mixed..i only seem to like black and latino men but i like mostly all girls)but not in any fetish way. i thnik its a problem when people will only go out with a certain race, esp. when it is not their own race or exclusively their own race. i have never been with a girl just because of their ethnic origim, i dont like the whale flava' craig-davidee thing. there is no racism in blanket statments such as 'x raced people are sexy. being repulsed by certain racial types would fall into racism, like when nazi's fell in love with jewish bitches and started feeling sick. white girls with thier slicked down hair and saying they only go out with black-boys..etc is just confusion.

as is she, whose species is unbeknownst to me
http://www.segginger.net/Star_Trek/Voyager/Kes02.JPG

i just don't know what to say about this.

anyway, Tuomas OTM. Since we're all talking in massive generalities here (crossing ethnic lines, reaffirming racial distinctions that are supposed to be outmoded)...we can generalize about personalities too. From my experience, the quite unattractive thing about "Asian women" is that culturally, they are not particularly informed, outspoken or humorous about social, cultural and political issues. This is a turn-off for me.

And as others have pointed out, the "aesthetics" of someone from Cambodia are utterly different from those of Japan. The "aesthetics" of hungry people are also very different from those of excessively made-up people. Leave politics out of it? How can you?

We're also not clear on whether we're talking about "Asian women" in Asian countries, or those in our first world countries. There is a world of difference.

i dunno about that. it is racism, it might just not be bad racism...

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Any man who thinks that Asian women are subservient should try riding a crowded bus in Taipei or Hong Kong. They'll kick your hyper-masculine ass. Then spit on you. Not necessarily in that order.

i think the point is becoming clear..
it's not racist to not have found people from certain racial types attractive.

it may be racist to make remarks such as "i don't find asians attractive"

It's okay to think something but not to say it. Oh, now I get it. Yeah, that makes rhetorical sense. Okay. Huh? Are you serious?

SPOKEN: "I'm sorry Ms. Chen, we are unable to offer you the job/have sex with you at this time."

THOUGHT: "We don't hire/sleep with Asians. Ever."

who is reflecting?

I'm gonna say no because it could be put more eloquently/tastefully as 'i want to sleep with different types of people instead of just the one type' and there's nothing really wrong with that. I figure most people have thought along those lines at some point or another.

I still think there's a marked difference between ruling out sex with same gender and ruling out an entire racial group.

Steve, there's also nothing wrong with fancying certain types of people - look at Will Carling always going for women with cropped blonde bobs, for example. Or Brad Pitt always making himself look LIKE his partner of the time...

what's the opposite of preference? no preference. how is that prejudice?!

the point i'm making is merely that crass generalisations (what does an Asian woman look like? etc.) are a dumb way of putting it and will appear suspicious. and people should say what they mean/be more specific.

i have a friend who only likes men with blue eyes and refuses to even consider any who don't. that seems like mentalism to me.

you fucker - those were the exact words I was going to use.