DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

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He was calling him his friend a week ago

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 15 July 2011 14:51 (1 year ago) Permalink

don't forget The Official Newscorp/UK end of season finale/Rebekah Brooks did 9/11 thread

probably not going to keep murdoch and uk politics completely separate (am i right?!?!), but started another thread because the newscorp stuff going international and it was drowning out good honest tory scum news.

caek, Friday, 15 July 2011 15:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

OK, to repost (which is disappointing) I notice that this thread has managed to spend even less time on the defense review than the mainstream media. Do people really have nothing to say? (I spent my afternoon with journos and people waiting to lose their jobs) It's another tory attack on Scotland, but this time it leaves British armed forces in an impossible position.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:35 (1 year ago) Permalink

As a lily-livered pacifist type, I'm not entirely unhappy that cuts are being made in defence spending, but yes, this whole thing sounds like it has fucked an entire community over. DOn't seem to be any real plans for creating new jobs there.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

I come from an air force family btw and spent my childhood on various bases, so I appreciated what a huge thing this is for the people that live there.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, me too - I've lived my whole life on or near RAF bases (and I'm a lily-livered pacifist too, though I've recently decided on certain revolutionary exceptions). But Fox even referred to the SNP's (very unlikely to succeed) threat of independence as a reason for the decision. He's punishing communities for how they vote.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

Hadn't caught that aspect of it, but Fox has always been a huge cock.

Should say best wishes to you and yours dowd, dunno what you do but I hope yr okay.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:57 (1 year ago) Permalink

It's kinda up in the air at the mo, but cheers.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:01 (1 year ago) Permalink

i had thought the scots wanted uk armed forces off their patch??

so brycey (history mayne), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

Doubtless some of them do - the minority who support independence. But no-one in communities around these bases wants them to go. We should have found another of Ewen MacGregor's siblings to protect Leuchars, as they (thankfully) did Lossiemouth.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:09 (1 year ago) Permalink

Quite sad about this. I worked at Leuchars for 8 years and had a great time, still know a few people there and hope things will work out ok for them.

The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

Brooks's husband Charlie says bag belonged to him not Rebekah. Spokesman says: "A cleaner thought it was rubbish and put it in the bin.

What cleaner throws a computer in a bin? loool

prolego, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:21 (1 year ago) Permalink

scotland hates tories, tories hate us. this will never change.

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

also the nats don't want rid of the brit armed forces, salmond campaigned against this iirc.

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:26 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yes, he did - he gave a speech n the village hall across the road from my house. The SNP's position was that we've already lost a base, so expecting Scotland to bear 2 of it's 3 bases closed was ridiculous, so both Lossiemouth and Leuchars should stay open.

At least it will be quieter here - the Typhoons are noisy as hell. Now it'll just be rifle drills and the odd helicopter (assuming the vague ideas about an army barracks come to fruition, and even then it'll probably be about five years)

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:29 (1 year ago) Permalink

imo the defence review is classic osbornomics, ie unserious. it wasn't a real review: if they don't want the uk to be one of the big clubs, they should make that case, but doing it as part of a defence review *and then launching into a new war* was just derrrrrrrrrrrrp.

so brycey (history mayne), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:33 (1 year ago) Permalink

Fox kept responding to questions by saying things like 'in order to achieve a regular/reservist proportion similar to the US we have to...' but he never explained why such a ratio was desirable. Of course, it's all about the £££'s, but he should have the guts to say so.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:38 (1 year ago) Permalink

November 2006:

Shadow Olympics minister Hugh Robertson said: "The secretary of state has admitted to a 40% increase.

"She has failed to disclose the true cost of VAT, contingency, building cost inflation and security, much of which was entirely predictable at the time of the bid.

"Today's increase is just a starting point. While the figures remain ambiguous, we can only expect further increases."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6167504.stm

July 2011:

The Olympic Delivery Authority has announced 88% of the building programme for London 2012 is now complete.

It has also been announced the anticipated final cost of the project fell by £16m during the last quarter.

This has prompted Sports Minister Hugh Robertson to say for the first time he is "confident" the project will come in under its £9.3bn budget.

He said: "With one year to go construction is 88% complete, ahead of time and under budget."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14201730

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

NHS services opened to competition

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:59 (1 year ago) Permalink

FUCK THESE PEOPLE.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

Wheelchair services an interesting choice for the first round, given Cameron's been talking about his troubles with them.

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

Seriously, fuck these guys. They know it's completely buried.

emil.y, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

I hear Champneys in Tring treats people in wheelchairs well...

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:43 (1 year ago) Permalink

Interesting choice of day to announce this eh?

a million anons (onimo), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

The Guardian has the Lansley announcement story on page 15, the Independent on page 21, The Times on page 17 and the Daily Mail on page 31. And that's your lot.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 07:16 (1 year ago) Permalink

iirc this was something that was going to happen. and now it has happened, kind of thing.

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 08:14 (1 year ago) Permalink

Osborne's lost his (Jonny) marbles?

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 July 2011 11:34 (1 year ago) Permalink

Dorset County Council is closing 9 of its 34 libraries, with 11 of those left to be run by unpaid volunteers and community groups.

Apparently it's OK because 75 per cent of Dorset residents never set foot inside a library.

Wonder what the percentage of primary school age children is. Oh.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:04 (1 year ago) Permalink

They all vote Tory down there anyway, so fuck 'em, they're getting what they voted for

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:06 (1 year ago) Permalink

those primary school age child tory voters are the fuckin worst

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

Let them take it up with their parents

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:07 (1 year ago) Permalink

d-cam is editing the next issue of the big issue o_0 o_0

whose ideas was that? good god

lex pretend, Friday, 22 July 2011 09:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

sure that's "editing" and not "selling" ?

graveshitwave (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 July 2011 09:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

get on with running the country into the ground you prick

ledge, Friday, 22 July 2011 09:23 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yeah, in this current situation, that's bound to be a good idea.

Next up, Harold Shipman opens his own old people's home...

Mark G, Friday, 22 July 2011 09:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

d-cam is editing the next issue of the big issue o_0 o_0

whose ideas was that?

[Big Issue founder, John] Bird revealed in 2010 "My guilty secret is that I’m really a working class Tory. There, I’ve said it. I’d love to be a liberal because they’re the nice people but it’s really hard work – I can’t swallow their gullibility and I think their ideas are stupid. I’d love to be someone who wonders around in a kind of Utopian paradise seeing only the good in everybody but I just can’t. I support capital punishment for a start. I know this will destroy my reputation among middle-class liberals but I’m 64 now and I should be able to breathe a bit. Wearing the corsetry of liberalism means that every now and then you have to take it off."

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 22 July 2011 10:44 (1 year ago) Permalink

My guilty secret is that I’m really a working class Tory

Form what i've seen of this guy over the years I wouldn't exactly call that a secret

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 22 July 2011 10:46 (1 year ago) Permalink

"working class"

graveshitwave (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 July 2011 10:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

Is that the British meaning of 'liberal' or the American definition?

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 22 July 2011 10:53 (1 year ago) Permalink

US I imagine, I assume the sneer used when saying it is the same in any case

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 22 July 2011 10:54 (1 year ago) Permalink

Getting people to sell your product without having to worry about if they have enough to pay their mortgages...

Mark G, Friday, 22 July 2011 10:55 (1 year ago) Permalink

Plus, of course, being pure 'profit-share' means the minimum wage doesn't apply, right?

Mark G, Friday, 22 July 2011 10:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

I'm not slagging the whole enterprise, just defining it.

Mark G, Friday, 22 July 2011 10:56 (1 year ago) Permalink

I used to write for the Big Issue in the '90s. I seldom see people buying them with the same enthusiasm today.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 22 July 2011 11:00 (1 year ago) Permalink

Yes, it's only middle-class liberals who wonder around in a kind of Utopian paradise seeing only the good in everybody who seem to buy it these days

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 22 July 2011 11:03 (1 year ago) Permalink

The rest of us have taken our corsets off and say "no thanks"

Mark G, Friday, 22 July 2011 11:10 (1 year ago) Permalink

Huhne's a naughty boy then?

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 22 July 2011 13:31 (1 year ago) Permalink

Re: RAF Leuchars

Dowd / Billy Dods - please email me at albaba at gmail dot com if you're interested in writing a short blogpost about the closure for this series:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/series/the-cuts-get-personal

... or could put me in touch with someone who might be.

Cheers

Alba, Monday, 25 July 2011 16:52 (1 year ago) Permalink

Does ilx just not have a norway massarcre thread? Or am I being dense looking at sna?

I am Louise Boat (a hoy hoy), Monday, 25 July 2011 17:48 (1 year ago) Permalink

Cultural Marxists and Lesbian Queens sounds like some latter day young tories Tarts and Vicars fancy dress party,

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 13:44 (2 days ago) Permalink

Possibly useful in the coming weeks & months:
http://www.isdavidcameronstillprimeminister.com/

Neil S, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 13:52 (2 days ago) Permalink

What, no http://www.isedmilibandstillcrap.com?

Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 13:55 (2 days ago) Permalink

Ed, the young Tories are still doing Jeremy Kyle parties as far as I'm aware.

on the sidelines dishing out sass (suzy), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:01 (2 days ago) Permalink

Tend to leave the 'plantation owners and slaves' shindigs to Ukip these days.

I turned away to leave these few in thought and contemplation (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 14:15 (2 days ago) Permalink

Wtf just happened in woolwich

my name is louis and i'm an acoleuthic (darraghmac), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 15:47 (2 days ago) Permalink

http://twitter.com/BOYADEE

Neil S, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 15:50 (2 days ago) Permalink

...followed by the police shooting the two suspects

go cray cray on my lobster soufflé (snoball), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 15:51 (2 days ago) Permalink

can we get Boya Dee on this board now please

the league against cool sports (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 16:18 (2 days ago) Permalink

Boya Dee ‏@BOYADEE 1h

The first guy goes for the female fed with the machete and she not even ramping she took man out like robocop never seen nutn like it

the league against cool sports (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 16:19 (2 days ago) Permalink

o_O

I used to walk past there going to work.

The Parvenu Fucktard (onimo), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 16:19 (2 days ago) Permalink

Was going to say this is probably not the thread for it but it looks like the victim might have been a serving soldier, which means the spurious bullshit around this story is going to off the scale.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 16:27 (2 days ago) Permalink

like

"Radio Clyde News ‏@RadioClydeNews 59s
Police are treating the killing in #Woolwich as a terrorist attack"

The Parvenu Fucktard (onimo), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 16:34 (2 days ago) Permalink

Sky News Newsdesk ‏@SkyNewsBreak 4m
Police are treating the killing in #Woolwich as a terrorist attack

Sky News Newsdesk ‏@SkyNewsBreak 44s
Sky sources: #Woolwich killing was likely a politically-motivated Islamist terrorist attack

oops xp

dschinghis kraan (NickB), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 16:37 (2 days ago) Permalink

@BOYADEE

Mate ive seen alot of shit im my time but that has to rank sumwhere in the top 3.

You'd think/hope a (possible) decapitation and double shooting would be in your top 1, fucking miles ahead of #2.

The Parvenu Fucktard (onimo), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 16:38 (2 days ago) Permalink

That twitter TL is quite something, indeed

Random ASMR Memories (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 16:40 (2 days ago) Permalink

Remind me not to hang about with that Boyadee character (xp)

Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 16:41 (2 days ago) Permalink

According to Nick Robinson, "Attack was "filmed" by the attackers, and was almost certainly carried out by Islamic terrorists."

Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 16:43 (2 days ago) Permalink

"almost certainly" = just enough wiggle room to allow you to say all kinds of shit with no clear facts

(we should maybe have a rolling UK news thread)

The Parvenu Fucktard (onimo), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 16:45 (2 days ago) Permalink

Indeed

Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 16:46 (2 days ago) Permalink

NIck Robinson, Cheshire twat.

on the sidelines dishing out sass (suzy), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 16:46 (2 days ago) Permalink

BBC Breaking News ‏@BBCBreaking 1m
Police believe #Woolwich attackers shouted "Allahu Akbar" (Arabic for God is Great) UK government sources tell @bbcnickrobinson

martinbrunt ‏@skymartinbrunt 9m
#woolwich Witnesses say killers posed for photos and waited for police, equivalent of suicide attack.

dschinghis kraan (NickB), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 16:48 (2 days ago) Permalink

This Just In: Rolling UK News Thread

howzat

The Parvenu Fucktard (onimo), Wednesday, 22 May 2013 16:50 (2 days ago) Permalink


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