DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

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Fair point. Judge had no cause to mention cenotaph at all.

Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Friday, 15 July 2011 14:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

The judge gave another student 12 months last week for throwing a stick.

http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/9128855.Talented_student_jailed_over_riot/

that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 15 July 2011 14:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

Judicial appointments
Senior Circuit Judge Appointment - Price QC

11 July 2011

The Lord Chancellor, the Right Honourable Kenneth Clarke QC MP has appointed His Honour Judge Nicholas Peter Lees Price QC to be a Senior Circuit Judge, Resident Judge based at Kingston Crown Court Centre effect from Monday 11 July 2011.

hmmn

nakhchivan, Friday, 15 July 2011 14:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

They're charged with 'violent disorder' rather than criminal damage, which means the penalties are much more severe. Being part of a large group and being in a public place are aggravating factors.

The whole area of the law is extremely controversial as you're not really being judged on the acts you carried out but the wider context of the event. Someone got five years, a while back, for throwing stones at police during a 'riot'.

модный хипстер (ShariVari), Friday, 15 July 2011 14:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

i see that martin rowson still hasn't mastered the felt tip

Ward Fowler, Friday, 15 July 2011 14:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

3.47pm: Breaking: David Cameron hosted Andy Coulson at Chequers this spring after his resignation in January ... More details soon ...

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 15 July 2011 14:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

He was calling him his friend a week ago

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 15 July 2011 14:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

don't forget The Official Newscorp/UK end of season finale/Rebekah Brooks did 9/11 thread

probably not going to keep murdoch and uk politics completely separate (am i right?!?!), but started another thread because the newscorp stuff going international and it was drowning out good honest tory scum news.

caek, Friday, 15 July 2011 15:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

OK, to repost (which is disappointing) I notice that this thread has managed to spend even less time on the defense review than the mainstream media. Do people really have nothing to say? (I spent my afternoon with journos and people waiting to lose their jobs) It's another tory attack on Scotland, but this time it leaves British armed forces in an impossible position.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

As a lily-livered pacifist type, I'm not entirely unhappy that cuts are being made in defence spending, but yes, this whole thing sounds like it has fucked an entire community over. DOn't seem to be any real plans for creating new jobs there.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

I come from an air force family btw and spent my childhood on various bases, so I appreciated what a huge thing this is for the people that live there.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, me too - I've lived my whole life on or near RAF bases (and I'm a lily-livered pacifist too, though I've recently decided on certain revolutionary exceptions). But Fox even referred to the SNP's (very unlikely to succeed) threat of independence as a reason for the decision. He's punishing communities for how they vote.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

Hadn't caught that aspect of it, but Fox has always been a huge cock.

Should say best wishes to you and yours dowd, dunno what you do but I hope yr okay.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

It's kinda up in the air at the mo, but cheers.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

i had thought the scots wanted uk armed forces off their patch??

so brycey (history mayne), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

Doubtless some of them do - the minority who support independence. But no-one in communities around these bases wants them to go. We should have found another of Ewen MacGregor's siblings to protect Leuchars, as they (thankfully) did Lossiemouth.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

Quite sad about this. I worked at Leuchars for 8 years and had a great time, still know a few people there and hope things will work out ok for them.

The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

Brooks's husband Charlie says bag belonged to him not Rebekah. Spokesman says: "A cleaner thought it was rubbish and put it in the bin.

What cleaner throws a computer in a bin? loool

prolego, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

scotland hates tories, tories hate us. this will never change.

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

also the nats don't want rid of the brit armed forces, salmond campaigned against this iirc.

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yes, he did - he gave a speech n the village hall across the road from my house. The SNP's position was that we've already lost a base, so expecting Scotland to bear 2 of it's 3 bases closed was ridiculous, so both Lossiemouth and Leuchars should stay open.

At least it will be quieter here - the Typhoons are noisy as hell. Now it'll just be rifle drills and the odd helicopter (assuming the vague ideas about an army barracks come to fruition, and even then it'll probably be about five years)

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

imo the defence review is classic osbornomics, ie unserious. it wasn't a real review: if they don't want the uk to be one of the big clubs, they should make that case, but doing it as part of a defence review *and then launching into a new war* was just derrrrrrrrrrrrp.

so brycey (history mayne), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

Fox kept responding to questions by saying things like 'in order to achieve a regular/reservist proportion similar to the US we have to...' but he never explained why such a ratio was desirable. Of course, it's all about the £££'s, but he should have the guts to say so.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

November 2006:

Shadow Olympics minister Hugh Robertson said: "The secretary of state has admitted to a 40% increase.

"She has failed to disclose the true cost of VAT, contingency, building cost inflation and security, much of which was entirely predictable at the time of the bid.

"Today's increase is just a starting point. While the figures remain ambiguous, we can only expect further increases."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6167504.stm

July 2011:

The Olympic Delivery Authority has announced 88% of the building programme for London 2012 is now complete.

It has also been announced the anticipated final cost of the project fell by £16m during the last quarter.

This has prompted Sports Minister Hugh Robertson to say for the first time he is "confident" the project will come in under its £9.3bn budget.

He said: "With one year to go construction is 88% complete, ahead of time and under budget."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14201730

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

NHS services opened to competition

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

FUCK THESE PEOPLE.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

Wheelchair services an interesting choice for the first round, given Cameron's been talking about his troubles with them.

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

Seriously, fuck these guys. They know it's completely buried.

emil.y, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

I hear Champneys in Tring treats people in wheelchairs well...

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

Interesting choice of day to announce this eh?

a million anons (onimo), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

The Guardian has the Lansley announcement story on page 15, the Independent on page 21, The Times on page 17 and the Daily Mail on page 31. And that's your lot.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 07:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

iirc this was something that was going to happen. and now it has happened, kind of thing.

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 08:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

Osborne's lost his (Jonny) marbles?

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 July 2011 11:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

Dorset County Council is closing 9 of its 34 libraries, with 11 of those left to be run by unpaid volunteers and community groups.

Apparently it's OK because 75 per cent of Dorset residents never set foot inside a library.

Wonder what the percentage of primary school age children is. Oh.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

They all vote Tory down there anyway, so fuck 'em, they're getting what they voted for

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

those primary school age child tory voters are the fuckin worst

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

Let them take it up with their parents

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

d-cam is editing the next issue of the big issue o_0 o_0

whose ideas was that? good god

lex pretend, Friday, 22 July 2011 09:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

sure that's "editing" and not "selling" ?

graveshitwave (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 July 2011 09:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

get on with running the country into the ground you prick

ledge, Friday, 22 July 2011 09:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, in this current situation, that's bound to be a good idea.

Next up, Harold Shipman opens his own old people's home...

Mark G, Friday, 22 July 2011 09:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

d-cam is editing the next issue of the big issue o_0 o_0

whose ideas was that?

[Big Issue founder, John] Bird revealed in 2010 "My guilty secret is that I’m really a working class Tory. There, I’ve said it. I’d love to be a liberal because they’re the nice people but it’s really hard work – I can’t swallow their gullibility and I think their ideas are stupid. I’d love to be someone who wonders around in a kind of Utopian paradise seeing only the good in everybody but I just can’t. I support capital punishment for a start. I know this will destroy my reputation among middle-class liberals but I’m 64 now and I should be able to breathe a bit. Wearing the corsetry of liberalism means that every now and then you have to take it off."

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 22 July 2011 10:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

My guilty secret is that I’m really a working class Tory

Form what i've seen of this guy over the years I wouldn't exactly call that a secret

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 22 July 2011 10:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

"working class"

graveshitwave (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 July 2011 10:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

Is that the British meaning of 'liberal' or the American definition?

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 22 July 2011 10:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

US I imagine, I assume the sneer used when saying it is the same in any case

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 22 July 2011 10:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

Getting people to sell your product without having to worry about if they have enough to pay their mortgages...

Mark G, Friday, 22 July 2011 10:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

Plus, of course, being pure 'profit-share' means the minimum wage doesn't apply, right?

Mark G, Friday, 22 July 2011 10:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm not slagging the whole enterprise, just defining it.

Mark G, Friday, 22 July 2011 10:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

so michael heseltine basically

Ottbot jr (NickB), Friday, 19 December 2014 11:30 (1 month ago) Permalink

1st look has *Bickerstaffian elements

(Assuming here we all remember Rodney).

Root It Oot (Tom D.), Friday, 19 December 2014 12:33 (1 month ago) Permalink

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/douglas-carswell-tells-ukip-to-stop-blaming-foreigners-as-youth-poll-shows-nigel-farage-is-even-less-popular-than-nick-clegg-9947202.html

Would love to have been a fly on the wall for the moment when it finally dawned on Carswell which party he'd actually joined.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 31 December 2014 13:16 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

lol @ Carswell. Altho possibly making an early play to lead a somewhat 'de-toxified' Ukip post election, if their performance underwhelms (and their success this year perversely makes that more, not less likely). De-toxified ukip perhaps impossible but maybe having more emphasis on yay free minds and free markets libertarianism

As to that poll, if the youth vote had any clout, political outlook would be completely different anyhow.

wat if lermontov hero of are time modern day (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 15:20 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

Farage has said similar in the past iirc. UKIP's toxicity has less to do with him than the fact that 95% of the grass roots members, including the majority of people standing for office, are nuts.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Wednesday, 31 December 2014 15:27 (4 weeks ago) Permalink

Bored with the General Election campaign already.

The World's Strangest Man 2014 (Tom D.), Monday, 5 January 2015 10:11 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

It's not the campaigning that bores/enrages me, it's John Humprhys shouting across any Labour politician's answer to whatever questions he asks them, followed by Nick Robinson 'explaining' situations like an ex-Young Conservative prez.

camp event (suzy), Monday, 5 January 2015 10:30 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

john humphrys this morning commenting on the revelation that the tories' road advert image was of a road in weimar said "a road in - of all places - weimar"

?

conrad, Monday, 5 January 2015 11:17 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

GERMANY??? *monocle pops out*

Ratt in Mi Kitchen (Neil S), Monday, 5 January 2015 11:20 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

looking forward to my doorstep visit from the local Labour candidate, gonna have a chat about socialism

Gombeen Dance Band (Noodle Vague), Monday, 5 January 2015 17:44 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

Youth vote don't mean much tho.

wat if lermontov hero of are time modern day (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 13 January 2015 11:21 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Al Murray to stand against UKIP's Nigel Farage

Comedian Al Murray will stand in his guise as The Pub Landlord against UKIP leader Nigel Farage at the general election.

Mr Murray, whose character is based around a love for all things British, has formed the Free United Kingdom Party.

He confirmed he would stand forward for election in Thanet South, in Kent.

He said: "It seems to me that the UK is ready for a bloke waving a pint around, offering common sense solutions."

Mark G, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 16:31 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I'm not really sure what to make of that.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 16:36 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

the acronym is probably the only slightly good thing about that

rae sredrum (imago), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 16:37 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

If he deliberately plays up every ridiculous UKIP contradiction he could do quite a lot of damage to Farage's chances of winning a seat.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 16:38 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

Yeah, is it the usual "comic" thing, or is it a "hey let's split the Farage vote"/.//..

xposts.

Mark G, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 16:38 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

his fanbase appears to be largely UKIP sympathizers who don't realise there's a "joke" so fuck knows what odds this makes

Gombeen Dance Band (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 16:44 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

is this al murray the man jettisoning al murray the pub landlord's fan base for precisely that reason? recasting himself so a new audience see the joke, and what it means?

#Research (stevie), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 16:47 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

I assume he's basically a Tory anyway and I haven't bothered to watch any of his output in maybe 15 years but if he is literally lurking behind Farage and making him look a fool in every photo opp throughout the campaign then the inevitable toys-out-of-the-pram moment could still be quite funny.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 16:50 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

i was gonna say, of course it's a mockery of Farage, but yeah he's the new Alf Garnett in that idiot right-wingers don't get it.

this is just a saginaw (dog latin), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 16:51 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

“Let it be known that like many of the Parliamentary hopefuls in the forthcoming election, I have no idea where South Thanet is - but did that stop Margaret Thatcher from saving the Falkland Islands? No”

this is just a saginaw (dog latin), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 16:53 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

i've always assumed his politics are softish liberal but don't ask me why, the character was clearly supposed to be a satire on bullish English nationalism but then how are bullish English nationalists gonna recognise satire? he's certainly made a good living from not worrying about the difference.

agreed that Farage losing his shit publicly just once will make it all tolerable

Gombeen Dance Band (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 14 January 2015 16:54 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

nah, he'll probably link arms over shoulders and sing "lambeth walk" or sumat.

Mark G, Wednesday, 14 January 2015 17:10 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

The first of his pledges is to make pints of beer cost 1p and to brick up the channel tunnel.

Mark G, Thursday, 15 January 2015 07:00 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

well he's certainly split my sides never mind the ukip vote

Tanukious D' (wins), Thursday, 15 January 2015 07:09 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

his fanbase appears to be largely UKIP sympathizers who don't realise there's a "joke" so fuck knows what odds this makes

As Kelvin McKenzie said in his column in the Sun the other day, ".... Scotland, or Jockestan as the excellent Al Murray calls it."

Peas Be Upon Ham (Tom D.), Thursday, 15 January 2015 10:29 (2 weeks ago) Permalink


In a Twitter message, Mr Farage told his rival: "The more, the merrier! @almurray".

And a spokesman for UKIP added: "At last, serious competition in the constituency."

Also, BBC news have added a pic on the left of the Al Murray one, NFarage with a pint. I guess they must have had difficulty finding one yesterday.

Mark G, Thursday, 15 January 2015 10:42 (2 weeks ago) Permalink

George Osborne finger-weenie LOL:

camp event (suzy), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 13:21 (3 days ago) Permalink


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