Fair point. Judge had no cause to mention cenotaph at all.
― Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Friday, 15 July 2011 14:00 (1 year ago) Permalink
The judge gave another student 12 months last week for throwing a stick.
http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/9128855.Talented_student_jailed_over_riot/
― that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 15 July 2011 14:03 (1 year ago) Permalink
Judicial appointmentsSenior Circuit Judge Appointment - Price QC11 July 2011The Lord Chancellor, the Right Honourable Kenneth Clarke QC MP has appointed His Honour Judge Nicholas Peter Lees Price QC to be a Senior Circuit Judge, Resident Judge based at Kingston Crown Court Centre effect from Monday 11 July 2011.
11 July 2011
The Lord Chancellor, the Right Honourable Kenneth Clarke QC MP has appointed His Honour Judge Nicholas Peter Lees Price QC to be a Senior Circuit Judge, Resident Judge based at Kingston Crown Court Centre effect from Monday 11 July 2011.
hmmn
― nakhchivan, Friday, 15 July 2011 14:17 (1 year ago) Permalink
They're charged with 'violent disorder' rather than criminal damage, which means the penalties are much more severe. Being part of a large group and being in a public place are aggravating factors.
The whole area of the law is extremely controversial as you're not really being judged on the acts you carried out but the wider context of the event. Someone got five years, a while back, for throwing stones at police during a 'riot'.
― модный хипстер (ShariVari), Friday, 15 July 2011 14:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
i see that martin rowson still hasn't mastered the felt tip
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 15 July 2011 14:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
3.47pm: Breaking: David Cameron hosted Andy Coulson at Chequers this spring after his resignation in January ... More details soon ...
― natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 15 July 2011 14:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
He was calling him his friend a week ago
― R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 15 July 2011 14:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
don't forget The Official Newscorp/UK end of season finale/Rebekah Brooks did 9/11 thread
probably not going to keep murdoch and uk politics completely separate (am i right?!?!), but started another thread because the newscorp stuff going international and it was drowning out good honest tory scum news.
― caek, Friday, 15 July 2011 15:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
OK, to repost (which is disappointing) I notice that this thread has managed to spend even less time on the defense review than the mainstream media. Do people really have nothing to say? (I spent my afternoon with journos and people waiting to lose their jobs) It's another tory attack on Scotland, but this time it leaves British armed forces in an impossible position.
― textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
As a lily-livered pacifist type, I'm not entirely unhappy that cuts are being made in defence spending, but yes, this whole thing sounds like it has fucked an entire community over. DOn't seem to be any real plans for creating new jobs there.
― scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
I come from an air force family btw and spent my childhood on various bases, so I appreciated what a huge thing this is for the people that live there.
― scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, me too - I've lived my whole life on or near RAF bases (and I'm a lily-livered pacifist too, though I've recently decided on certain revolutionary exceptions). But Fox even referred to the SNP's (very unlikely to succeed) threat of independence as a reason for the decision. He's punishing communities for how they vote.
― textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
Hadn't caught that aspect of it, but Fox has always been a huge cock.
Should say best wishes to you and yours dowd, dunno what you do but I hope yr okay.
― scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
It's kinda up in the air at the mo, but cheers.
― textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
i had thought the scots wanted uk armed forces off their patch??
― so brycey (history mayne), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
Doubtless some of them do - the minority who support independence. But no-one in communities around these bases wants them to go. We should have found another of Ewen MacGregor's siblings to protect Leuchars, as they (thankfully) did Lossiemouth.
― textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
Quite sad about this. I worked at Leuchars for 8 years and had a great time, still know a few people there and hope things will work out ok for them.
― The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:19 (1 year ago) Permalink
Brooks's husband Charlie says bag belonged to him not Rebekah. Spokesman says: "A cleaner thought it was rubbish and put it in the bin.
What cleaner throws a computer in a bin? loool
― prolego, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:21 (1 year ago) Permalink
scotland hates tories, tories hate us. this will never change.
― you've got male (jim in glasgow), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
also the nats don't want rid of the brit armed forces, salmond campaigned against this iirc.
― you've got male (jim in glasgow), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yes, he did - he gave a speech n the village hall across the road from my house. The SNP's position was that we've already lost a base, so expecting Scotland to bear 2 of it's 3 bases closed was ridiculous, so both Lossiemouth and Leuchars should stay open.
At least it will be quieter here - the Typhoons are noisy as hell. Now it'll just be rifle drills and the odd helicopter (assuming the vague ideas about an army barracks come to fruition, and even then it'll probably be about five years)
― textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
imo the defence review is classic osbornomics, ie unserious. it wasn't a real review: if they don't want the uk to be one of the big clubs, they should make that case, but doing it as part of a defence review *and then launching into a new war* was just derrrrrrrrrrrrp.
― so brycey (history mayne), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:33 (1 year ago) Permalink
Fox kept responding to questions by saying things like 'in order to achieve a regular/reservist proportion similar to the US we have to...' but he never explained why such a ratio was desirable. Of course, it's all about the £££'s, but he should have the guts to say so.
― textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
November 2006:
Shadow Olympics minister Hugh Robertson said: "The secretary of state has admitted to a 40% increase. "She has failed to disclose the true cost of VAT, contingency, building cost inflation and security, much of which was entirely predictable at the time of the bid. "Today's increase is just a starting point. While the figures remain ambiguous, we can only expect further increases."
"She has failed to disclose the true cost of VAT, contingency, building cost inflation and security, much of which was entirely predictable at the time of the bid.
"Today's increase is just a starting point. While the figures remain ambiguous, we can only expect further increases."
July 2011:
The Olympic Delivery Authority has announced 88% of the building programme for London 2012 is now complete.It has also been announced the anticipated final cost of the project fell by £16m during the last quarter.This has prompted Sports Minister Hugh Robertson to say for the first time he is "confident" the project will come in under its £9.3bn budget.He said: "With one year to go construction is 88% complete, ahead of time and under budget."
It has also been announced the anticipated final cost of the project fell by £16m during the last quarter.
This has prompted Sports Minister Hugh Robertson to say for the first time he is "confident" the project will come in under its £9.3bn budget.
He said: "With one year to go construction is 88% complete, ahead of time and under budget."
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
NHS services opened to competition
― stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:59 (1 year ago) Permalink
FUCK THESE PEOPLE.
― natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
Wheelchair services an interesting choice for the first round, given Cameron's been talking about his troubles with them.
― stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
Seriously, fuck these guys. They know it's completely buried.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:05 (1 year ago) Permalink
I hear Champneys in Tring treats people in wheelchairs well...
― James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
Interesting choice of day to announce this eh?
― a million anons (onimo), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
The Guardian has the Lansley announcement story on page 15, the Independent on page 21, The Times on page 17 and the Daily Mail on page 31. And that's your lot.
― James Mitchell, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 07:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
iirc this was something that was going to happen. and now it has happened, kind of thing.
― only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 08:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/benedictbrogan/100098140/george-osborne-wants-a-single-euro-state/
what does this all mean?
― only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Thursday, 21 July 2011 11:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
Osborne's lost his (Jonny) marbles?
― R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 July 2011 11:34 (1 year ago) Permalink
Dorset County Council is closing 9 of its 34 libraries, with 11 of those left to be run by unpaid volunteers and community groups.
Apparently it's OK because 75 per cent of Dorset residents never set foot inside a library.
Wonder what the percentage of primary school age children is. Oh.
― James Mitchell, Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:04 (1 year ago) Permalink
They all vote Tory down there anyway, so fuck 'em, they're getting what they voted for
― R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
those primary school age child tory voters are the fuckin worst
― MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
Let them take it up with their parents
― R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:07 (1 year ago) Permalink
d-cam is editing the next issue of the big issue o_0 o_0
whose ideas was that? good god
― lex pretend, Friday, 22 July 2011 09:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
sure that's "editing" and not "selling" ?
― graveshitwave (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 July 2011 09:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
get on with running the country into the ground you prick
― ledge, Friday, 22 July 2011 09:23 (1 year ago) Permalink
Yeah, in this current situation, that's bound to be a good idea.
Next up, Harold Shipman opens his own old people's home...
― Mark G, Friday, 22 July 2011 09:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
whose ideas was that?
[Big Issue founder, John] Bird revealed in 2010 "My guilty secret is that I’m really a working class Tory. There, I’ve said it. I’d love to be a liberal because they’re the nice people but it’s really hard work – I can’t swallow their gullibility and I think their ideas are stupid. I’d love to be someone who wonders around in a kind of Utopian paradise seeing only the good in everybody but I just can’t. I support capital punishment for a start. I know this will destroy my reputation among middle-class liberals but I’m 64 now and I should be able to breathe a bit. Wearing the corsetry of liberalism means that every now and then you have to take it off."
― R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 22 July 2011 10:44 (1 year ago) Permalink
My guilty secret is that I’m really a working class Tory
Form what i've seen of this guy over the years I wouldn't exactly call that a secret
― R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 22 July 2011 10:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
"working class"
― graveshitwave (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 July 2011 10:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
Is that the British meaning of 'liberal' or the American definition?
― natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 22 July 2011 10:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
US I imagine, I assume the sneer used when saying it is the same in any case
― R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 22 July 2011 10:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
Getting people to sell your product without having to worry about if they have enough to pay their mortgages...
― Mark G, Friday, 22 July 2011 10:55 (1 year ago) Permalink
Plus, of course, being pure 'profit-share' means the minimum wage doesn't apply, right?
― Mark G, Friday, 22 July 2011 10:56 (1 year ago) Permalink
I'm not slagging the whole enterprise, just defining it.
This whole thing is just wonderful btw:http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/may/17/nigel-farage-fascist-scum-protesters
― dschinghis kraan (NickB), Friday, 17 May 2013 10:01 (2 days ago) Permalink
Then, finally, the harassed and ill-prepared handful of police officers was forced to push him back into the Canon's Gait, slamming its front doors shut, as the demonstrators chanted: "Nigel, you're a bawbag, Nigel you're a bawbag, na, na, na, hey!".
― sktsh, Friday, 17 May 2013 10:04 (2 days ago) Permalink
Yeah, that bit was especially heartwarming to read.
― dschinghis kraan (NickB), Friday, 17 May 2013 10:07 (2 days ago) Permalink
GMS interview was great too. Dude really takes him to task. First audio clip here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-22566183
― sktsh, Friday, 17 May 2013 10:09 (2 days ago) Permalink
"If this is the face of Scottish nationalism, it's a pretty ugly picture."
Sticks and stones, Nige, sticks and stones
― Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Friday, 17 May 2013 10:28 (2 days ago) Permalink
do you think Nige is saying nationalism always leads to ugly scenes?
― the league against cool sports (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 May 2013 11:46 (2 days ago) Permalink
People need to get up in Farage's shit more often, and I include rival politicians who are normally shit scared of him.
― Matt DC, Friday, 17 May 2013 11:51 (2 days ago) Permalink
Indeed, he is a clown. Full interview here.
― Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Friday, 17 May 2013 12:04 (2 days ago) Permalink
Although it's not strictly accurate, I loved the heckler who told Frottage he knew as much about Scotland as he did light aircraft.
― on the sidelines dishing out sass (suzy), Friday, 17 May 2013 12:07 (2 days ago) Permalink
"Farage was first forced out of the Canon's Gait pub after the landlord took fright as the protesters disrupted his press conference with shouts of "racist", "scum" and "homophobe". Out on the street, as the fingers pointed and taunts escalated, he was rejected by one taxi and turfed out of a second."
LOL Edinburgh hospitality at its finest
― Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Friday, 17 May 2013 12:12 (2 days ago) Permalink
I am struggling to see how Edinburgh's welcome would be any better than Glasgow's.
― on the sidelines dishing out sass (suzy), Friday, 17 May 2013 12:25 (2 days ago) Permalink
Sorry, that was a West Coast dig at the warm-hearted and welcoming citizens of Auld Reekie
― Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Friday, 17 May 2013 12:27 (2 days ago) Permalink
Happy to put city rivalries aside and unite as one massive ukip-tolling conurbation tbh
― sktsh, Friday, 17 May 2013 12:28 (2 days ago) Permalink
er, trolling. Although we'll take your cash too nige, ya wobbly-lipped shitehawk.
― sktsh, Friday, 17 May 2013 12:29 (2 days ago) Permalink
All 19th Hole bigots are WATBs when challenged, it's the rules.
― on the sidelines dishing out sass (suzy), Friday, 17 May 2013 12:55 (2 days ago) Permalink
reading today's observer, it's just one thing after another for poor old d camz
― caek, Sunday, 19 May 2013 12:32 (2 hours ago) Permalink
The Conservative said on Friday: "It's fine. There's really no problem. The MPs just have to do it because the associations tell them to, and the associations are all mad, swivel-eyed loons."
― caek, Sunday, 19 May 2013 12:33 (2 hours ago) Permalink
don't understand why some people get so worked up about being described accurately
― the league against cool sports (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 19 May 2013 12:35 (2 hours ago) Permalink
I can see him being torn apart by his party before too long. This is all starting to reach a hysterical pitch that's wholly disproportionate to its urgency.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 19 May 2013 12:36 (2 hours ago) Permalink
Almost Shakespearean that Cameron, after modelling himself on Blair for so long, could find himself destroyed by the folly of governing by focus group.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 19 May 2013 12:38 (2 hours ago) Permalink
if there is a referendum and the vote is to stay in, the conservative meltdown is going to be amazing/permanent
― caek, Sunday, 19 May 2013 13:25 (1 hour ago) Permalink
What's the polling on such a referendum saying now?
― stet, Sunday, 19 May 2013 13:41 (1 hour ago) Permalink
Not necessarily a good thing (xp)
― Hearing moyes confirmedare we hearing m (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 19 May 2013 13:42 (1 hour ago) Permalink
50/50 xp
― caek, Sunday, 19 May 2013 13:46 (1 hour ago) Permalink
according to today's observer. read so many articles about europe and the conservatives in the paper that i can't actually find the specific link any more.
― caek, Sunday, 19 May 2013 13:47 (1 hour ago) Permalink
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/may/18/tory-party-europe-lord-howe
Recent polls show that those who want the UK to leave the EU and those who want the country to stay in are evenly matched. An Opinium/Observer poll published today suggests that more than two-thirds of voters (67%) want Cameron to "listen and pay more attention" to the views of his backbenchers.
― caek, Sunday, 19 May 2013 13:48 (1 hour ago) Permalink
"evenly-matched" is where i'm getting that 50/50 from, so who knows.
of course it will depend a lot on the "renegotiation" and the two alternatives (exactly what "in" and "out" mean)
― caek, Sunday, 19 May 2013 13:49 (1 hour ago) Permalink
An Opinium/Observer poll published today suggests that more than two-thirds of voters (67%) want Cameron to "listen and pay more attention" to the views of his backbenchers.
I'd like to see what the actual question was and what the actual response was. I would imagine that at least 50% of voters couldn't give a fuck who Cameron listens to.
― Hearing moyes confirmedare we hearing m (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 19 May 2013 13:51 (59 minutes ago) Permalink
http://news.opinium.co.uk/sites/news.opinium.co.uk/files/VI_14_05_2013.pdfRecently David Cameron has been criticised by some Conservative backbench MPs and party members over Europe and other issues. Regardless of your views on the issues, which of the following do you think the Prime Minister should do?- Enforce his views and overrule them- Listen and pay more attention to their views- Don't know
That's a bit loaded really - people are forced to give an answer, but most probably don't give a monkeys. 67% choosing the second option is not the same as 67% actively wanting Cameron to listen to his back benchers.
― Hearing moyes confirmedare we hearing m (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 19 May 2013 13:59 (51 minutes ago) Permalink
i don't know to what extent polls take into account the likelihood of Yes or No voters to actually vote. i can imagine the Nos being considerably more active/motivated.
― the league against cool sports (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 19 May 2013 13:59 (51 minutes ago) Permalink