DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

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Fair point. Judge had no cause to mention cenotaph at all.

Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Friday, 15 July 2011 14:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

The judge gave another student 12 months last week for throwing a stick.

http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/9128855.Talented_student_jailed_over_riot/

that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 15 July 2011 14:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

Judicial appointments
Senior Circuit Judge Appointment - Price QC

11 July 2011

The Lord Chancellor, the Right Honourable Kenneth Clarke QC MP has appointed His Honour Judge Nicholas Peter Lees Price QC to be a Senior Circuit Judge, Resident Judge based at Kingston Crown Court Centre effect from Monday 11 July 2011.

hmmn

nakhchivan, Friday, 15 July 2011 14:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

They're charged with 'violent disorder' rather than criminal damage, which means the penalties are much more severe. Being part of a large group and being in a public place are aggravating factors.

The whole area of the law is extremely controversial as you're not really being judged on the acts you carried out but the wider context of the event. Someone got five years, a while back, for throwing stones at police during a 'riot'.

модный хипстер (ShariVari), Friday, 15 July 2011 14:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

i see that martin rowson still hasn't mastered the felt tip

Ward Fowler, Friday, 15 July 2011 14:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

3.47pm: Breaking: David Cameron hosted Andy Coulson at Chequers this spring after his resignation in January ... More details soon ...

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 15 July 2011 14:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

He was calling him his friend a week ago

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 15 July 2011 14:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

don't forget The Official Newscorp/UK end of season finale/Rebekah Brooks did 9/11 thread

probably not going to keep murdoch and uk politics completely separate (am i right?!?!), but started another thread because the newscorp stuff going international and it was drowning out good honest tory scum news.

caek, Friday, 15 July 2011 15:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

OK, to repost (which is disappointing) I notice that this thread has managed to spend even less time on the defense review than the mainstream media. Do people really have nothing to say? (I spent my afternoon with journos and people waiting to lose their jobs) It's another tory attack on Scotland, but this time it leaves British armed forces in an impossible position.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

As a lily-livered pacifist type, I'm not entirely unhappy that cuts are being made in defence spending, but yes, this whole thing sounds like it has fucked an entire community over. DOn't seem to be any real plans for creating new jobs there.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

I come from an air force family btw and spent my childhood on various bases, so I appreciated what a huge thing this is for the people that live there.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, me too - I've lived my whole life on or near RAF bases (and I'm a lily-livered pacifist too, though I've recently decided on certain revolutionary exceptions). But Fox even referred to the SNP's (very unlikely to succeed) threat of independence as a reason for the decision. He's punishing communities for how they vote.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

Hadn't caught that aspect of it, but Fox has always been a huge cock.

Should say best wishes to you and yours dowd, dunno what you do but I hope yr okay.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

It's kinda up in the air at the mo, but cheers.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

i had thought the scots wanted uk armed forces off their patch??

so brycey (history mayne), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

Doubtless some of them do - the minority who support independence. But no-one in communities around these bases wants them to go. We should have found another of Ewen MacGregor's siblings to protect Leuchars, as they (thankfully) did Lossiemouth.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

Quite sad about this. I worked at Leuchars for 8 years and had a great time, still know a few people there and hope things will work out ok for them.

The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

Brooks's husband Charlie says bag belonged to him not Rebekah. Spokesman says: "A cleaner thought it was rubbish and put it in the bin.

What cleaner throws a computer in a bin? loool

prolego, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

scotland hates tories, tories hate us. this will never change.

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

also the nats don't want rid of the brit armed forces, salmond campaigned against this iirc.

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yes, he did - he gave a speech n the village hall across the road from my house. The SNP's position was that we've already lost a base, so expecting Scotland to bear 2 of it's 3 bases closed was ridiculous, so both Lossiemouth and Leuchars should stay open.

At least it will be quieter here - the Typhoons are noisy as hell. Now it'll just be rifle drills and the odd helicopter (assuming the vague ideas about an army barracks come to fruition, and even then it'll probably be about five years)

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

imo the defence review is classic osbornomics, ie unserious. it wasn't a real review: if they don't want the uk to be one of the big clubs, they should make that case, but doing it as part of a defence review *and then launching into a new war* was just derrrrrrrrrrrrp.

so brycey (history mayne), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

Fox kept responding to questions by saying things like 'in order to achieve a regular/reservist proportion similar to the US we have to...' but he never explained why such a ratio was desirable. Of course, it's all about the £££'s, but he should have the guts to say so.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

November 2006:

Shadow Olympics minister Hugh Robertson said: "The secretary of state has admitted to a 40% increase.

"She has failed to disclose the true cost of VAT, contingency, building cost inflation and security, much of which was entirely predictable at the time of the bid.

"Today's increase is just a starting point. While the figures remain ambiguous, we can only expect further increases."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6167504.stm

July 2011:

The Olympic Delivery Authority has announced 88% of the building programme for London 2012 is now complete.

It has also been announced the anticipated final cost of the project fell by £16m during the last quarter.

This has prompted Sports Minister Hugh Robertson to say for the first time he is "confident" the project will come in under its £9.3bn budget.

He said: "With one year to go construction is 88% complete, ahead of time and under budget."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14201730

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

NHS services opened to competition

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

FUCK THESE PEOPLE.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

Wheelchair services an interesting choice for the first round, given Cameron's been talking about his troubles with them.

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

Seriously, fuck these guys. They know it's completely buried.

emil.y, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

I hear Champneys in Tring treats people in wheelchairs well...

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

Interesting choice of day to announce this eh?

a million anons (onimo), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

The Guardian has the Lansley announcement story on page 15, the Independent on page 21, The Times on page 17 and the Daily Mail on page 31. And that's your lot.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 07:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

iirc this was something that was going to happen. and now it has happened, kind of thing.

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 08:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

Osborne's lost his (Jonny) marbles?

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 July 2011 11:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

Dorset County Council is closing 9 of its 34 libraries, with 11 of those left to be run by unpaid volunteers and community groups.

Apparently it's OK because 75 per cent of Dorset residents never set foot inside a library.

Wonder what the percentage of primary school age children is. Oh.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

They all vote Tory down there anyway, so fuck 'em, they're getting what they voted for

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

those primary school age child tory voters are the fuckin worst

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

Let them take it up with their parents

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

d-cam is editing the next issue of the big issue o_0 o_0

whose ideas was that? good god

lex pretend, Friday, 22 July 2011 09:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

sure that's "editing" and not "selling" ?

graveshitwave (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 July 2011 09:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

get on with running the country into the ground you prick

ledge, Friday, 22 July 2011 09:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, in this current situation, that's bound to be a good idea.

Next up, Harold Shipman opens his own old people's home...

Mark G, Friday, 22 July 2011 09:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

d-cam is editing the next issue of the big issue o_0 o_0

whose ideas was that?

[Big Issue founder, John] Bird revealed in 2010 "My guilty secret is that I’m really a working class Tory. There, I’ve said it. I’d love to be a liberal because they’re the nice people but it’s really hard work – I can’t swallow their gullibility and I think their ideas are stupid. I’d love to be someone who wonders around in a kind of Utopian paradise seeing only the good in everybody but I just can’t. I support capital punishment for a start. I know this will destroy my reputation among middle-class liberals but I’m 64 now and I should be able to breathe a bit. Wearing the corsetry of liberalism means that every now and then you have to take it off."

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 22 July 2011 10:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

My guilty secret is that I’m really a working class Tory

Form what i've seen of this guy over the years I wouldn't exactly call that a secret

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 22 July 2011 10:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

"working class"

graveshitwave (Noodle Vague), Friday, 22 July 2011 10:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

Is that the British meaning of 'liberal' or the American definition?

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 22 July 2011 10:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

US I imagine, I assume the sneer used when saying it is the same in any case

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 22 July 2011 10:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

Getting people to sell your product without having to worry about if they have enough to pay their mortgages...

Mark G, Friday, 22 July 2011 10:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

Plus, of course, being pure 'profit-share' means the minimum wage doesn't apply, right?

Mark G, Friday, 22 July 2011 10:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

I'm not slagging the whole enterprise, just defining it.

Mark G, Friday, 22 July 2011 10:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

Nothing much to say about the garbage that's on offer tbh.

Quack and Merkt (Tom D.), Friday, 17 April 2015 09:14 (2 days ago) Permalink

Miliband saying, "Debate me", when he means, "Debate with me", well, it's the end of the world, innit?

Quack and Merkt (Tom D.), Friday, 17 April 2015 09:17 (2 days ago) Permalink

Come on now. You'll all be glued to it soon enough. This is just a phase you're going through.

everything, Friday, 17 April 2015 09:20 (2 days ago) Permalink

Ooh, shall I vote Green or TUSC in my safe Labour seat! What choice, and what a difference I shall make!

Actually, our UKIP candidate is an ex-soldier called Ryan Acty - so Real England it's almost persuasive

imago, Friday, 17 April 2015 09:26 (2 days ago) Permalink

Green probably.

everything, Friday, 17 April 2015 09:31 (2 days ago) Permalink

No results found for "historical ryan actyment"

Natalie Bennett wasn't great again last night and I say that as someone who has voted Green since forever

yeovil knievel (NickB), Friday, 17 April 2015 09:31 (2 days ago) Permalink

Shall I vote Green and have my vote put instantly in the bin in my marginal-ish Tory/LD seat, shall I hold my nose very hard and vote LD as the only hope of dislodging the Tories locally, or shall I assume that no other bastard is voting LD ever again (though there are a few yellow posters up locally) and therefore there is no chance of anyone other than the Tories winning the seat

whee

undergraduate dance (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 17 April 2015 09:43 (2 days ago) Permalink

If I was considering tactical voting I think I would need to vote Tory to mitigate the risk of UKIPerry (which I don't think is a real threat, but is the only one).

the bowels are not what they seem (aldo), Friday, 17 April 2015 09:46 (2 days ago) Permalink

Greens easily winning the battle of the posters in my part of Brighton. Definitely seems to be the slightly posher properties that have Labour ones up. Have only spotted one Tory yet, sincerely hoping Clarence Mitchell (yeah that guy) gets handed a savage beating by the electorate

yeovil knievel (NickB), Friday, 17 April 2015 09:51 (2 days ago) Permalink

man needs a harsh takedown from that daily mail sub-ed

https://twitter.com/mitch_1uk/status/587760044852273152

yeovil knievel (NickB), Friday, 17 April 2015 09:58 (2 days ago) Permalink

oh my local hustings is tonight

perhaps I ought to go but spending a lovely warm spring Friday evening in a church hall listening to politicians... not quite as attractive as the pub garden I had otherwise planned

undergraduate dance (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 17 April 2015 10:56 (2 days ago) Permalink

our local Green candidate is a former lecturer of Russian studies at Manchester University who now sets cryptic crosswords for the Guardian and FT, which seems pretty cool, I'll probably still vote Labour though

The bendy yellow fruit in the snazzy yellow suit gives nutrition to boot (soref), Friday, 17 April 2015 11:04 (2 days ago) Permalink

she also has a Ronald Searle drawing as her twitter picture which is kind of making me want to reconsider but seems like too shallow a reason to vote for someone

The bendy yellow fruit in the snazzy yellow suit gives nutrition to boot (soref), Friday, 17 April 2015 11:35 (2 days ago) Permalink

Mine is a safe Labour seat and our local MP is largely reasonable if not exactly distinctive. Have serious issues with Labour over welfare policy right now and I don't particularly want to be complicit in any form of continuing austerity, but I haven't looked into Green policies enough for it to be anything but a soft-headed protest vote. There's a couple of standard issue Trot guys as well but looking under that particular rock usually reveals something horrific so fuck that.

Matt DC, Friday, 17 April 2015 11:40 (2 days ago) Permalink

^^ similar situation. Am probably going for the soft-headed protest vote option though.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Friday, 17 April 2015 11:41 (2 days ago) Permalink

Corbyn is my MP, don't see why I shouldn't vote for him tbh.

Quack and Merkt (Tom D.), Friday, 17 April 2015 11:45 (2 days ago) Permalink

Corbyn is great. Was proud to vote for him when I lived in that neck of the woods.

Lammy is ours now, but I can't bring myself to vote anything other than Labour this year.

NotKnowPotato (stevie), Friday, 17 April 2015 11:47 (2 days ago) Permalink

i'm in a tory/labour marginal now so have been psyching myself up to hold my nose and vote for the ex-investment banker labour are fielding (admittedly he has made housing a priority and seems willing to actually talk about inequality)

back in 1922 battersea elected one of the uk's only communist mps/the third ever ethnic minority mp!

lex pretend, Friday, 17 April 2015 11:51 (2 days ago) Permalink

Green is the only choice for me in my area, realistically.

but then again, who really cares? I don’t. (dog latin), Friday, 17 April 2015 11:52 (2 days ago) Permalink

Natalie Bennett has been terrible in interviews and under pressure and not particularly great in the debates compared with others, but no one voting Green is doing so in the serious expectation that she will be PM so I don't see why it particularly matters. Otherwise there's no real social democratic option that doesn't have an overt nationalist agenda and that fragmentation is both frustrating and depressing.

If I was in any kind of marginal Labour seat I would vote for them, but I'm pretty happy not to have to worry about holding my nose (especially as the nearest challengers in this seat last time were the LibDems).

Matt DC, Friday, 17 April 2015 12:01 (2 days ago) Permalink

I'm in a normally safe Labour seat, one of the few where they increased their majority in 2010, but I think it's possibly winnable for the SNP, though it would take a huge swing.

We also have a candidate for the "Cannabis is safer than alcohol" party.

not sure if he inhales

no way no way sna sna (onimo), Friday, 17 April 2015 12:51 (2 days ago) Permalink

he's got the same eyes as vin diesel in pitch black

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 17 April 2015 13:16 (2 days ago) Permalink

think that guy will be starring in sticky black

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 17 April 2015 13:20 (2 days ago) Permalink

but then again, who really cares? I don’t. (dog latin), Friday, 17 April 2015 13:22 (2 days ago) Permalink

the whole thing is a total farce - can't get motivated about it in any way. apart from fear of tories getting back in.

the swagger of oasis (LocalGarda), Friday, 17 April 2015 13:54 (2 days ago) Permalink

fun 'create your majority' game on BBC albeit currently broken
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32336071

nashwan, Friday, 17 April 2015 15:25 (2 days ago) Permalink

appropriately enough

bizarro gazzara, Friday, 17 April 2015 15:28 (2 days ago) Permalink

i am voting Yorkhire First because this whole shit is a mug's game

Noodle Vague, Friday, 17 April 2015 22:11 (2 days ago) Permalink

Croydon First

imago, Saturday, 18 April 2015 09:45 (Yesterday) Permalink


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