DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

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CANNESED was genius, tracer

who shivs a git (darraghmac), Friday, 15 July 2011 13:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 15 July 2011 13:27 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, in a supposedly left-wing paper, sexist shit like that. ^^^^ "Grow some balls." I can't even...

Karen D. Tregaskin, Friday, 15 July 2011 13:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

she's standing on a stack of newspapers because women are short

so brycey (history mayne), Friday, 15 July 2011 13:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

*curtseys*

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Friday, 15 July 2011 13:30 (3 years ago) Permalink

Gilmour kid reminds me of someone...

there is no dave only cool (blueski), Friday, 15 July 2011 13:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

lol
also xp to a whole other thread but, y'huh, psyched for more caek scoops. i don't really understand journalistic practices on this kind of thing - isn't it the kind of thing that a la ryan giggs' marriage, should be being flagrantly discussed piecemeal on twitte?

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Friday, 15 July 2011 13:40 (3 years ago) Permalink

Who is that? Surely not the pol. editor of The Economist?

that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 15 July 2011 13:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

murdoch meeting the dowlers this a'noon...anonymous tipoff

LocalGarda, Friday, 15 July 2011 13:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

from me i mean

LocalGarda, Friday, 15 July 2011 13:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

Dowlers, please surreptitiously tape the meeting.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 15 July 2011 13:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

Sometimes I wonder how anyone over 25 takes Laurie Penny seriously.[NB: the cenotaph incident wasn't what he was jailed for]

True but...

Passing sentence, Judge Nicholas Price QC accepted that Gilmour's behaviour at the Cenotaph did not form part of the violent disorder, but accused him of disrespect to the war dead.

Seems v. harsh - does he have any previous?

that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 15 July 2011 13:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

friend of a friend who has a brother in the know just let me know that police have opened an investigation into r brooks' involvement in maddie abduction, also got me google plus invites

who shivs a git (darraghmac), Friday, 15 July 2011 13:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

None. Dumbfuck judge, my taxpayer friends and I really don't want to hear your opinion on matters outside the actual charge. Hope they appeal. xp

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 15 July 2011 13:55 (3 years ago) Permalink

Fair point. Judge had no cause to mention cenotaph at all.

Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Friday, 15 July 2011 14:00 (3 years ago) Permalink

The judge gave another student 12 months last week for throwing a stick.

http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/9128855.Talented_student_jailed_over_riot/

that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 15 July 2011 14:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

Judicial appointments
Senior Circuit Judge Appointment - Price QC

11 July 2011

The Lord Chancellor, the Right Honourable Kenneth Clarke QC MP has appointed His Honour Judge Nicholas Peter Lees Price QC to be a Senior Circuit Judge, Resident Judge based at Kingston Crown Court Centre effect from Monday 11 July 2011.

hmmn

nakhchivan, Friday, 15 July 2011 14:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

They're charged with 'violent disorder' rather than criminal damage, which means the penalties are much more severe. Being part of a large group and being in a public place are aggravating factors.

The whole area of the law is extremely controversial as you're not really being judged on the acts you carried out but the wider context of the event. Someone got five years, a while back, for throwing stones at police during a 'riot'.

модный хипстер (ShariVari), Friday, 15 July 2011 14:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

i see that martin rowson still hasn't mastered the felt tip

Ward Fowler, Friday, 15 July 2011 14:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

3.47pm: Breaking: David Cameron hosted Andy Coulson at Chequers this spring after his resignation in January ... More details soon ...

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 15 July 2011 14:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

He was calling him his friend a week ago

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 15 July 2011 14:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

don't forget The Official Newscorp/UK end of season finale/Rebekah Brooks did 9/11 thread

probably not going to keep murdoch and uk politics completely separate (am i right?!?!), but started another thread because the newscorp stuff going international and it was drowning out good honest tory scum news.

caek, Friday, 15 July 2011 15:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

OK, to repost (which is disappointing) I notice that this thread has managed to spend even less time on the defense review than the mainstream media. Do people really have nothing to say? (I spent my afternoon with journos and people waiting to lose their jobs) It's another tory attack on Scotland, but this time it leaves British armed forces in an impossible position.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

As a lily-livered pacifist type, I'm not entirely unhappy that cuts are being made in defence spending, but yes, this whole thing sounds like it has fucked an entire community over. DOn't seem to be any real plans for creating new jobs there.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

I come from an air force family btw and spent my childhood on various bases, so I appreciated what a huge thing this is for the people that live there.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, me too - I've lived my whole life on or near RAF bases (and I'm a lily-livered pacifist too, though I've recently decided on certain revolutionary exceptions). But Fox even referred to the SNP's (very unlikely to succeed) threat of independence as a reason for the decision. He's punishing communities for how they vote.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

Hadn't caught that aspect of it, but Fox has always been a huge cock.

Should say best wishes to you and yours dowd, dunno what you do but I hope yr okay.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:57 (3 years ago) Permalink

It's kinda up in the air at the mo, but cheers.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

i had thought the scots wanted uk armed forces off their patch??

so brycey (history mayne), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

Doubtless some of them do - the minority who support independence. But no-one in communities around these bases wants them to go. We should have found another of Ewen MacGregor's siblings to protect Leuchars, as they (thankfully) did Lossiemouth.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

Quite sad about this. I worked at Leuchars for 8 years and had a great time, still know a few people there and hope things will work out ok for them.

The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

Brooks's husband Charlie says bag belonged to him not Rebekah. Spokesman says: "A cleaner thought it was rubbish and put it in the bin.

What cleaner throws a computer in a bin? loool

prolego, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:21 (3 years ago) Permalink

scotland hates tories, tories hate us. this will never change.

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:24 (3 years ago) Permalink

also the nats don't want rid of the brit armed forces, salmond campaigned against this iirc.

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:26 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yes, he did - he gave a speech n the village hall across the road from my house. The SNP's position was that we've already lost a base, so expecting Scotland to bear 2 of it's 3 bases closed was ridiculous, so both Lossiemouth and Leuchars should stay open.

At least it will be quieter here - the Typhoons are noisy as hell. Now it'll just be rifle drills and the odd helicopter (assuming the vague ideas about an army barracks come to fruition, and even then it'll probably be about five years)

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:29 (3 years ago) Permalink

imo the defence review is classic osbornomics, ie unserious. it wasn't a real review: if they don't want the uk to be one of the big clubs, they should make that case, but doing it as part of a defence review *and then launching into a new war* was just derrrrrrrrrrrrp.

so brycey (history mayne), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:33 (3 years ago) Permalink

Fox kept responding to questions by saying things like 'in order to achieve a regular/reservist proportion similar to the US we have to...' but he never explained why such a ratio was desirable. Of course, it's all about the £££'s, but he should have the guts to say so.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

November 2006:

Shadow Olympics minister Hugh Robertson said: "The secretary of state has admitted to a 40% increase.

"She has failed to disclose the true cost of VAT, contingency, building cost inflation and security, much of which was entirely predictable at the time of the bid.

"Today's increase is just a starting point. While the figures remain ambiguous, we can only expect further increases."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/6167504.stm

July 2011:

The Olympic Delivery Authority has announced 88% of the building programme for London 2012 is now complete.

It has also been announced the anticipated final cost of the project fell by £16m during the last quarter.

This has prompted Sports Minister Hugh Robertson to say for the first time he is "confident" the project will come in under its £9.3bn budget.

He said: "With one year to go construction is 88% complete, ahead of time and under budget."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14201730

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

NHS services opened to competition

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:59 (3 years ago) Permalink

FUCK THESE PEOPLE.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

Wheelchair services an interesting choice for the first round, given Cameron's been talking about his troubles with them.

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

Seriously, fuck these guys. They know it's completely buried.

emil.y, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:05 (3 years ago) Permalink

I hear Champneys in Tring treats people in wheelchairs well...

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:43 (3 years ago) Permalink

Interesting choice of day to announce this eh?

a million anons (onimo), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:52 (3 years ago) Permalink

The Guardian has the Lansley announcement story on page 15, the Independent on page 21, The Times on page 17 and the Daily Mail on page 31. And that's your lot.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 07:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

iirc this was something that was going to happen. and now it has happened, kind of thing.

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 08:14 (3 years ago) Permalink

Osborne's lost his (Jonny) marbles?

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 July 2011 11:34 (3 years ago) Permalink

Dorset County Council is closing 9 of its 34 libraries, with 11 of those left to be run by unpaid volunteers and community groups.

Apparently it's OK because 75 per cent of Dorset residents never set foot inside a library.

Wonder what the percentage of primary school age children is. Oh.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

They all vote Tory down there anyway, so fuck 'em, they're getting what they voted for

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

people blindly reposting terrible statistical bullshit is pathetic and unhelpful 97 percent of the time

most won't have the guts to repost this

like

blap setter (darraghmac), Sunday, 13 July 2014 15:26 (1 week ago) Permalink

It also feeds into the rightist myth that critics of the government are soft-headed and don't understand the severity of the situation we are in.

Matt DC, Sunday, 13 July 2014 15:43 (1 week ago) Permalink

timing of this reshuffle is awful. much as I am glad to see Gove in particular get tae fuck, half of twitter now thinks Clarke, Gove and Hague are on the paedo list.

thomasintrouble, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 09:02 (1 week ago) Permalink

First thing I thought when I heard that Hague was resigning (and stepping down as an MP also) was, right there's some revelation about to come out, else they're worried it's coming out... but that's the times we live in!

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 09:08 (1 week ago) Permalink

Anyone know much about Nicky Morgan? She's replacing Gove.

Wristy Hurlington (ShariVari), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 09:10 (1 week ago) Permalink

lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 09:10 (1 week ago) Permalink

*slow hand clap*

lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 09:10 (1 week ago) Permalink

i did really enjoy the ten minutes of GOVE OUT jubilation though

lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 09:11 (1 week ago) Permalink

well i read the big thing in the mirror on sunday with the guy coming out saying he arranged underage rent boys for tories in the eighties... was told by a young hague & an unnamed civil servant to shut the fuck up and bury it.

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 09:11 (1 week ago) Permalink

XP wasn't Hague implicated in suppression of earlier paedophile related reports? that'd be enough rly

blap setter (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 09:12 (1 week ago) Permalink

I'm skeptical of the Mirror story, or at least how much it will stick. But if true - the tarring of the Thatcher brand would also be destructive for the current Tories too, surely, no matter whether they've flushed the ranks of Thatcher-era MPs?

a biscuit/donut hybrid called “bisnuts” (stevie), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 09:16 (1 week ago) Permalink

haven't seen the mirror story but this was from a few years back

blap setter (darraghmac), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 09:19 (1 week ago) Permalink

Gove is way too new an MP to have been involved, his demotion is probably a result of unilaterally deciding to start a fight with Theresa May.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 09:20 (1 week ago) Permalink

Yes. He is not of this Earth so can't imagine him being involved in any sort of hanky panky. Hague is another matter.

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 09:36 (1 week ago) Permalink

Latest Private Eye suggests, p plausibly, that Gove is being 'groomed' to take over as Editor of the Daily Mail from Dacre - he's been wined and dined a lot by Rothermere recently - so his conflict w/ May and demotion may actually be part of a larger exit strategy.

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 09:41 (1 week ago) Permalink

I can't really remember Hague having done anything egregiously awful as foreign secretary tbh, most of the major foreign policy blunders seem to have been Cameron's.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 09:41 (1 week ago) Permalink

That's usually the way with Foreign Secretary/ Prime Minister.

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 09:43 (1 week ago) Permalink

Gove has definitely fucked kids tbf

when there's no more room in heㄥㄥ the thread will walk the earth (wins), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 09:46 (1 week ago) Permalink

The pix of Hague and Savile together are a bit ewwwwww and on the nose, but because of source, not linking.

leave the web alone boys (suzy), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 09:47 (1 week ago) Permalink

His funny voice notwithstanding, Hague seemed like one of the more competent/less fucking enraging Tories.

a biscuit/donut hybrid called “bisnuts” (stevie), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 10:03 (1 week ago) Permalink

I will always be grateful to him for doing his best to make the Tories unelectable during his time as leader.

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 10:14 (1 week ago) Permalink

Hague's 20-pints-a-night wildman image just too strong for dealing with sensitive Muslim allies

Daphnis Celesta, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 10:30 (1 week ago) Permalink

i did really enjoy the ten minutes of GOVE OUT jubilation though

trouble is that every time you think one of these monsters has been removed, there are 20 more greedy maggots fervently wriggling round in the wound left behind, gorged on pus, just waiting to burst out

john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 10:35 (1 week ago) Permalink

This reshuffle suggests that the election campaign has started early - the election campaign for the next Tory leader that is - and that May has pulled ahead of Osborne.

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 11:35 (1 week ago) Permalink

not even the fucking Tories are stupid enough to believe that Osborne could ever, ever have the makings of a Prime Minister.

Daphnis Celesta, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 11:42 (1 week ago) Permalink

every time you think one of these monsters has been removed, there are 20 more greedy maggots fervently wriggling round in the wound left behind, gorged on pus, just waiting to burst out

plus removed to where

conrad, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 11:45 (1 week ago) Permalink

not even the fucking Tories are stupid enough to believe that Osborne could ever, ever have the makings of a Prime Minister.

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a biscuit/donut hybrid called “bisnuts” (stevie), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 11:46 (1 week ago) Permalink

none of them, not even Howard, make animals howl uncontrollably in their presence tbf

Daphnis Celesta, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 11:47 (1 week ago) Permalink

a curious shade of pale (onimo), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 11:48 (1 week ago) Permalink

Just interjecting so I don't bookmark old shiny gammon face.

leave the web alone boys (suzy), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 12:00 (1 week ago) Permalink

Gove apparently thinks Osborne can be PM. Anyone but Boris will do for a lot of them though.

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 12:23 (1 week ago) Permalink

Gove might be the next editor of the Mail, so..

a biscuit/donut hybrid called “bisnuts” (stevie), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 13:21 (1 week ago) Permalink

Gove would genuinely be an improvement upon Dacre.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 13:44 (1 week ago) Permalink

Ah, but apart from Cameron, obv, that list of pictures were a bunch of blokes that were allowed to be Conservative leader because there wasn't any hope of being in govt. Once there was, there was a bunch of scramble to get the leaders job.

Mark G, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 14:11 (1 week ago) Permalink

also allowed to be Conservative leader because not enough of the party could stomach Portillo or Clarke and those three were thought to be slightly more electable than, say, John Redwood, was the impression I got?

soref, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 14:20 (1 week ago) Permalink

All of them were elected in the hope that they would be PM... obviously.

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 July 2014 14:22 (1 week ago) Permalink

No.

They were placeholders.

Mark G, Tuesday, 15 July 2014 21:55 (1 week ago) Permalink

You're overestimating the rationality of the Tory party here. I think a lot of them definitely thought that Labour 97 would be an immediate disaster, but they plumped for Hague because he wasn't one of their rivals, but I think they definitely saw him as a potential PM, at least at first. IDS was the product of rival factions splitting the vote between different and better qualified candidates. Howard was probably a placeholder, I'll give you that.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 08:25 (1 week ago) Permalink

Yeah, that's the one I was primarily thinking of.

But IDS was, a bit, as well

Mark G, Wednesday, 16 July 2014 08:27 (1 week ago) Permalink

putting a round peg into a square hole bound to lead to irritable dowel syndrome

blap setter (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 09:22 (1 week ago) Permalink

'Tarring of the Thatcher brand' - where could this go?

cardamon, Thursday, 17 July 2014 19:35 (1 week ago) Permalink

It feels as though today's tories could pass off the paedo thing as being something old tories did, the ones who were Lords and not just ordinary hard-working blokes who are Lords

cardamon, Thursday, 17 July 2014 19:36 (1 week ago) Permalink

They"ll be giving Savile his knighthood back soon enough

Mark G, Friday, 18 July 2014 06:39 (6 days ago) Permalink


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