DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

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CANNESED was genius, tracer

who shivs a git (darraghmac), Friday, 15 July 2011 13:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 15 July 2011 13:27 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, in a supposedly left-wing paper, sexist shit like that. ^^^^ "Grow some balls." I can't even...

Karen D. Tregaskin, Friday, 15 July 2011 13:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

she's standing on a stack of newspapers because women are short

so brycey (history mayne), Friday, 15 July 2011 13:29 (2 years ago) Permalink


40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Friday, 15 July 2011 13:30 (2 years ago) Permalink

Gilmour kid reminds me of someone...

there is no dave only cool (blueski), Friday, 15 July 2011 13:31 (2 years ago) Permalink

also xp to a whole other thread but, y'huh, psyched for more caek scoops. i don't really understand journalistic practices on this kind of thing - isn't it the kind of thing that a la ryan giggs' marriage, should be being flagrantly discussed piecemeal on twitte?

Aa Bb Obscure Dull Blue (#000066) (schlump), Friday, 15 July 2011 13:40 (2 years ago) Permalink

Who is that? Surely not the pol. editor of The Economist?

that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 15 July 2011 13:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

murdoch meeting the dowlers this a'noon...anonymous tipoff

LocalGarda, Friday, 15 July 2011 13:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

from me i mean

LocalGarda, Friday, 15 July 2011 13:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

Dowlers, please surreptitiously tape the meeting.

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 15 July 2011 13:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

Sometimes I wonder how anyone over 25 takes Laurie Penny seriously.[NB: the cenotaph incident wasn't what he was jailed for]

True but...

Passing sentence, Judge Nicholas Price QC accepted that Gilmour's behaviour at the Cenotaph did not form part of the violent disorder, but accused him of disrespect to the war dead.

Seems v. harsh - does he have any previous?

that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 15 July 2011 13:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

friend of a friend who has a brother in the know just let me know that police have opened an investigation into r brooks' involvement in maddie abduction, also got me google plus invites

who shivs a git (darraghmac), Friday, 15 July 2011 13:53 (2 years ago) Permalink

None. Dumbfuck judge, my taxpayer friends and I really don't want to hear your opinion on matters outside the actual charge. Hope they appeal. xp

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 15 July 2011 13:55 (2 years ago) Permalink

Fair point. Judge had no cause to mention cenotaph at all.

Strictly vote-splitting (DL), Friday, 15 July 2011 14:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

The judge gave another student 12 months last week for throwing a stick.

that was the last arrow in my quiver of whimsy (Ned Trifle II), Friday, 15 July 2011 14:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

Judicial appointments
Senior Circuit Judge Appointment - Price QC

11 July 2011

The Lord Chancellor, the Right Honourable Kenneth Clarke QC MP has appointed His Honour Judge Nicholas Peter Lees Price QC to be a Senior Circuit Judge, Resident Judge based at Kingston Crown Court Centre effect from Monday 11 July 2011.


nakhchivan, Friday, 15 July 2011 14:17 (2 years ago) Permalink

They're charged with 'violent disorder' rather than criminal damage, which means the penalties are much more severe. Being part of a large group and being in a public place are aggravating factors.

The whole area of the law is extremely controversial as you're not really being judged on the acts you carried out but the wider context of the event. Someone got five years, a while back, for throwing stones at police during a 'riot'.

модный хипстер (ShariVari), Friday, 15 July 2011 14:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

i see that martin rowson still hasn't mastered the felt tip

Ward Fowler, Friday, 15 July 2011 14:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

3.47pm: Breaking: David Cameron hosted Andy Coulson at Chequers this spring after his resignation in January ... More details soon ...

natalie imbroglio (suzy), Friday, 15 July 2011 14:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

He was calling him his friend a week ago

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Friday, 15 July 2011 14:51 (2 years ago) Permalink

don't forget The Official Newscorp/UK end of season finale/Rebekah Brooks did 9/11 thread

probably not going to keep murdoch and uk politics completely separate (am i right?!?!), but started another thread because the newscorp stuff going international and it was drowning out good honest tory scum news.

caek, Friday, 15 July 2011 15:07 (2 years ago) Permalink

OK, to repost (which is disappointing) I notice that this thread has managed to spend even less time on the defense review than the mainstream media. Do people really have nothing to say? (I spent my afternoon with journos and people waiting to lose their jobs) It's another tory attack on Scotland, but this time it leaves British armed forces in an impossible position.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

As a lily-livered pacifist type, I'm not entirely unhappy that cuts are being made in defence spending, but yes, this whole thing sounds like it has fucked an entire community over. DOn't seem to be any real plans for creating new jobs there.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

I come from an air force family btw and spent my childhood on various bases, so I appreciated what a huge thing this is for the people that live there.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, me too - I've lived my whole life on or near RAF bases (and I'm a lily-livered pacifist too, though I've recently decided on certain revolutionary exceptions). But Fox even referred to the SNP's (very unlikely to succeed) threat of independence as a reason for the decision. He's punishing communities for how they vote.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hadn't caught that aspect of it, but Fox has always been a huge cock.

Should say best wishes to you and yours dowd, dunno what you do but I hope yr okay.

scraping wheatus off the wheel (NickB), Monday, 18 July 2011 19:57 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's kinda up in the air at the mo, but cheers.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

i had thought the scots wanted uk armed forces off their patch??

so brycey (history mayne), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Doubtless some of them do - the minority who support independence. But no-one in communities around these bases wants them to go. We should have found another of Ewen MacGregor's siblings to protect Leuchars, as they (thankfully) did Lossiemouth.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Quite sad about this. I worked at Leuchars for 8 years and had a great time, still know a few people there and hope things will work out ok for them.

The multi-talented F.R. David (Billy Dods), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:19 (2 years ago) Permalink

Brooks's husband Charlie says bag belonged to him not Rebekah. Spokesman says: "A cleaner thought it was rubbish and put it in the bin.

What cleaner throws a computer in a bin? loool

prolego, Monday, 18 July 2011 20:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

scotland hates tories, tories hate us. this will never change.

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

also the nats don't want rid of the brit armed forces, salmond campaigned against this iirc.

you've got male (jim in glasgow), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:26 (2 years ago) Permalink

Yes, he did - he gave a speech n the village hall across the road from my house. The SNP's position was that we've already lost a base, so expecting Scotland to bear 2 of it's 3 bases closed was ridiculous, so both Lossiemouth and Leuchars should stay open.

At least it will be quieter here - the Typhoons are noisy as hell. Now it'll just be rifle drills and the odd helicopter (assuming the vague ideas about an army barracks come to fruition, and even then it'll probably be about five years)

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:29 (2 years ago) Permalink

imo the defence review is classic osbornomics, ie unserious. it wasn't a real review: if they don't want the uk to be one of the big clubs, they should make that case, but doing it as part of a defence review *and then launching into a new war* was just derrrrrrrrrrrrp.

so brycey (history mayne), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:33 (2 years ago) Permalink

Fox kept responding to questions by saying things like 'in order to achieve a regular/reservist proportion similar to the US we have to...' but he never explained why such a ratio was desirable. Of course, it's all about the £££'s, but he should have the guts to say so.

textbook blows on the head (dowd), Monday, 18 July 2011 20:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

November 2006:

Shadow Olympics minister Hugh Robertson said: "The secretary of state has admitted to a 40% increase.

"She has failed to disclose the true cost of VAT, contingency, building cost inflation and security, much of which was entirely predictable at the time of the bid.

"Today's increase is just a starting point. While the figures remain ambiguous, we can only expect further increases."

July 2011:

The Olympic Delivery Authority has announced 88% of the building programme for London 2012 is now complete.

It has also been announced the anticipated final cost of the project fell by £16m during the last quarter.

This has prompted Sports Minister Hugh Robertson to say for the first time he is "confident" the project will come in under its £9.3bn budget.

He said: "With one year to go construction is 88% complete, ahead of time and under budget."

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 13:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

NHS services opened to competition

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 14:59 (2 years ago) Permalink


natalie imbroglio (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

Wheelchair services an interesting choice for the first round, given Cameron's been talking about his troubles with them.

stet, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

Seriously, fuck these guys. They know it's completely buried.

emil.y, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:05 (2 years ago) Permalink

I hear Champneys in Tring treats people in wheelchairs well...

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

Interesting choice of day to announce this eh?

a million anons (onimo), Tuesday, 19 July 2011 15:52 (2 years ago) Permalink

The Guardian has the Lansley announcement story on page 15, the Independent on page 21, The Times on page 17 and the Daily Mail on page 31. And that's your lot.

James Mitchell, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 07:16 (2 years ago) Permalink

iirc this was something that was going to happen. and now it has happened, kind of thing.

only bad dog on the street (history mayne), Wednesday, 20 July 2011 08:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

Osborne's lost his (Jonny) marbles?

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 July 2011 11:34 (2 years ago) Permalink

Dorset County Council is closing 9 of its 34 libraries, with 11 of those left to be run by unpaid volunteers and community groups.

Apparently it's OK because 75 per cent of Dorset residents never set foot inside a library.

Wonder what the percentage of primary school age children is. Oh.

James Mitchell, Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:04 (2 years ago) Permalink

They all vote Tory down there anyway, so fuck 'em, they're getting what they voted for

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 July 2011 14:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

You're surely not implying that the sacked manager of Cardiff City was party to this hell on earth?

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 20 February 2014 12:22 (1 month ago) Permalink

something something shady club with history of combustible supporters something

politically autocorrect (darraghmac), Thursday, 20 February 2014 12:31 (1 month ago) Permalink

It's probably exactly same advice he gave to Gadaffi when it all kicked off in Libya.

Matt DC, Thursday, 20 February 2014 12:44 (1 month ago) Permalink

Rebekah Brooks has a terrible grasp of the English language based on that memo.

doglato dozzy (dog latin), Thursday, 20 February 2014 12:57 (1 month ago) Permalink

no that is how her name is spelt

^ 諷刺 (ken c), Thursday, 20 February 2014 13:15 (1 month ago) Permalink

the borough of islington were running assistance for welfare appeals and had >80% success

this is only blue sky dogshit that will never happen but charging for access to public tribunals lik this seems like an obvious human rights act violation

Joyeux animaux de la misère (nakhchivan), Friday, 21 February 2014 00:45 (1 month ago) Permalink

Immigration appeals require a fee, iirc.

Ramnaresh Samhain (ShariVari), Friday, 21 February 2014 06:12 (1 month ago) Permalink

"[Women] don't have to feel unfeminine," she said.

"There are some wonderful sports which you can do and perform to a very high level and I think those participating look absolutely radiant and very feminine such as ballet, gymnastics, cheerleading and even roller-skating.

"We really need to take a step back and actually ask women what they want and give it to them.

"Whether it's a Zumba class or a game of rounders after they've dropped the kids off. That's the approach we need to take - what works for them."

Helen Grant, Minister for Sport and Equalities, Ladies and Gentlemen

we sold our Solsta for Rock'n'Roll (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 February 2014 07:20 (1 month ago) Permalink

fuck's fucking sake

lex pretend, Friday, 21 February 2014 07:24 (1 month ago) Permalink

the aggravating thing is that there's a real point underneath all the 1950s "women know your place" bullshit

we sold our Solsta for Rock'n'Roll (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 February 2014 07:25 (1 month ago) Permalink

Immigration appeals require a fee, iirc.

― Ramnaresh Samhain (ShariVari), Friday, February 21, 2014 6:12 AM (1 hour ago)

and under current legal aid rules, as i understand it, people making immigration appeals are only eligible for legal aid if they're judged to have a more than 50% chance of success (not sure how this fits with the govt's earlier move to deny legal aid to non-uk residents, which I guess you could argue a new asylum seeker is by default).

of human sonnage (c sharp major), Friday, 21 February 2014 07:27 (1 month ago) Permalink

It's not just the ConDems that have that opinion about women. The Labour policy document:

There are now sports centres specifically for teenage girls; programmes such as “Back 2
Netball” offering flexible formats to appeal to women who may not have played sport since
school; and a UK Athletics Women’s Running Network, providing a safe an accessible
environment for women of all ages to enjoy running in their own time.
We will ensure that the Active Women programme, backed by £10 million of lottery
funding, delivers more opportunities to get women from disadvantaged communities and
those caring for children to play sport – including providing crèche facilities onsite for small
children, or sports activities for children while their mums play.
We will work closely with sports’ governing bodies to enable more women to take part both
in traditional sports such as hockey and netball, as well as trying a wider range of new
sports and activities such as aerobic dance.

iirc the main thinking at one point for why women didn't carry on with sport into adulthood was that communal changing rooms put teenage girls off sport because they didn't want to be seen in their underwear by girls they thought were more attractive than them. (or, rephrased, that looks were the thing that defined their decisions and not wanting to do sport)

Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Friday, 21 February 2014 09:32 (1 month ago) Permalink

(I am not playing the Tory card on this btw, just pointing out that our politicians these days try and make hay from minor linguistic differences while having virtually identical policies.)

Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Friday, 21 February 2014 09:40 (1 month ago) Permalink

as i said, i totally agree with the idea that anything that encourages people to be more active is good, and that women's sport needs to be taken more seriously by broadcasters and journalists. the language in that Helen Grant interview is counter-productive to those aims.

we sold our Solsta for Rock'n'Roll (Noodle Vague), Friday, 21 February 2014 09:49 (1 month ago) Permalink

Unfortunately this is soundbiting off the main interview and taking a couple of quotes out of context. Interview here:

Presents pretty much the same thing you're talking about is good. Femininity issue appears/ to be in the context of this report:

Which makes it seem like perfectly acceptable language to use.

Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Friday, 21 February 2014 09:54 (1 month ago) Permalink

That second report is two years old but is directly referenced by the interviewer for the first and it's in the context of that that the word "feminine" seems to have been first used, by the interviewer.

Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Friday, 21 February 2014 09:57 (1 month ago) Permalink

people should go to prison for this shambles, and for the pain its caused the country's most vulnerable.

you are clinically deaf and should sell you iPod (stevie), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 10:40 (1 month ago) Permalink

It'll be interesting to see which company (if any) takes on the assessments moving forward. The potential for bad publicity is so great it might have to get reabsorbed into the state if they can't find a business thick-skinned enough.

Yuri Bashment (ShariVari), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 12:45 (1 month ago) Permalink

free government money for shoddy unpopular work? they'll be queueing up

the immortal jellyfish will never die (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 12:52 (1 month ago) Permalink

ATOS have already renamed themselves, haven't they?

you are clinically deaf and should sell you iPod (stevie), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 13:00 (1 month ago) Permalink

Yes, the brand is so contaminated they're going to be called OH Assist in the UK from now on.

Yuri Bashment (ShariVari), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 13:14 (1 month ago) Permalink

"Atos have announced that they want to end their £500million contract with the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) a year early, blaming death threats."

surely if you're fit enough to kill someone, you'd be fit enough to work

^ 諷刺 (ken c), Tuesday, 25 February 2014 13:39 (1 month ago) Permalink

The FT is reporting today that, even by official Treasure models, there's a £20bn hole in Osborne's finances, which is kind of hilarious until you remember his solution is inevitably going to be "great, more austerity!"

Matt DC, Friday, 7 March 2014 09:51 (1 month ago) Permalink

official Treasure models luvin it brah

Prostitute Farm Online (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 7 March 2014 11:09 (1 month ago) Permalink

Bus Pass Elvis Party beats Lib Dems in election.

two bunny rabbits on mushrooms singing Proclaimers songs (onimo), Saturday, 8 March 2014 13:35 (1 month ago) Permalink

Don't Be Cruel

he is looking only the ball (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 8 March 2014 20:44 (1 month ago) Permalink

'Baby Let's Play House (of Commons)'

an office job is as secure as a Weetabix padlock (snoball), Saturday, 8 March 2014 20:53 (1 month ago) Permalink

RIP Bob Crow

ogmor, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 11:07 (1 month ago) Permalink

anyone know how he died?

wank-bond-villain-looking villain, (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 March 2014 11:10 (1 month ago) Permalink

heart attack.

ogmor, Tuesday, 11 March 2014 11:11 (1 month ago) Permalink

RIP Bob. Deserved his own thread.

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Tuesday, 11 March 2014 14:42 (1 month ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Only 22 MPs voted against the annual welfare cap. If the Labour Party wasn't dead before it is now.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 16:08 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

Only 13 of them Labour:

Matt DC, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 16:15 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

Tom Watson's a lovely guy but if he's the Left Wing of the party now then i haven't got enough time to type out all the "ha"s

instant wrinkle filler (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 16:35 (3 weeks ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

can't believe a politician is interpreting Christian doctrine to suit their own agenda

twistent consistent (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 10 April 2014 15:17 (6 days ago) Permalink

can't believe a politician is interpreting Christian doctrine to suit their own agenda

not_goodwin, Thursday, 10 April 2014 15:43 (6 days ago) Permalink

Of course but in 2014 it just seems even more vulgar. Have to concede that at least he's not using it justify killing people (directly)

tsrobodo, Thursday, 10 April 2014 16:24 (6 days ago) Permalink

Is it worse when they actually believe it or when it's like this, whatever this is

cardamon, Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:32 (6 days ago) Permalink

I take whatever solace I can find in the fact that we can never truly know the difference.

tsrobodo, Thursday, 10 April 2014 20:56 (6 days ago) Permalink

i'm not calling any ilxer on this so much as goggling that enough cretins voted for a cunt who's pulling rhetorical gestures with a 2000 year plus heritage

twistent consistent (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 10 April 2014 23:30 (6 days ago) Permalink

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