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I thought it was a on the self-precious side but I pretty quickly started viewing all of the characters as being distorted prisms refracted through Juno's quirkometer and what seemed overly fake turned into ludicrously stylized and hilarious.

HOOBASTANK is my co-pilot (DJP), Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:36 (twelve years ago) link

Sure--just don't ask me to go down the Up in the Air road again.

I found it hard to look past Juno's character. She seemed like something out of sitcom to me--every line was an acerbic and not especially witty comeback. I found her very tiresome very quickly. I found all the little signs of coolness or whatever that were hung on her--(from memory) Herschell G. Lewis, the Stooges, etc.--contrived. The relationship between her and Jason Bateman didn't seem credible to me at all.

Those were my main objections. But I didn't think the film was evil or anything, hence my exasperation defending Up in the Air last year.

clemenza, Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

Huh. Yeah I definitely didn't think about it that much at all. I also saw it when I was working with preg teens so I'm pretty sure I was really apprehensive about it in general. I think maybe I found Juno herself really unlikeable too but I can't be sure. I should watch it again someday now that I'm now longer knee deep in that shizz as our little lady herself might say.

(。◕‿‿­­­­­­­◕。) (ENBB), Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

diablo cody needs to be dropped down a well and then the mouth of the well needs to be bricked over and then the plot of land the well is on needs to be saturation bombed

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

Juno isn't particularly likeable but many of the reactions in the movie are so ludicrous that I just spent a lot of time lolling; the only "authentic" scenes in the movie (I believe intentionally so) are the birth scene and its immediate aftermath, although IIRC people act less like caricatures from that point in the movie onward (basically because Juno grows up some after this experience and isn't perceiving everyone around her as sitcom characters).

This is all super half-baked speculation based off of half paying attention to the movie while playing WoW, btw

HOOBASTANK is my co-pilot (DJP), Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:45 (twelve years ago) link

i kind of liked this movie even though the dialogue is sometimes really irritating. i think the scene tamtam quoted is the worst. jennifer garner's storyline is good, i think.

horseshoe, Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:45 (twelve years ago) link

lol it's hard to argue with strongo's perspective otoh

horseshoe, Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:45 (twelve years ago) link

diablo cody needs to be dropped down a well and then the mouth of the well needs to be bricked over and then the plot of land the well is on needs to be saturation bombed

if you did that, Ring-esque tapes would circulate with random images going "Yo Yo Yiggady Yo" and "PHUKET, THAILAND" at you; seven days after watching it, Diablo Cody would crawl out of your television and turn your face into a burger phone

HOOBASTANK is my co-pilot (DJP), Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:47 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah HS - I remember really liking the Jennifer Garnder bit too and thinking she was great in that role.

(。◕‿‿­­­­­­­◕。) (ENBB), Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

jennifer's body is actually obviously worse but for some reason the dialogue irks me less coming out of that delightful amanda seyfried

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

ha I watched most of "Jennifer's Body" in a bar and, without dialogue, it was kind of great

HOOBASTANK is my co-pilot (DJP), Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:49 (twelve years ago) link

x-post - garner even - oops

(。◕‿‿­­­­­­­◕。) (ENBB), Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:49 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, well, boobs

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:49 (twelve years ago) link

was the the one with meghan fox? I saw crazy before/after plastic surgery pics of her the other day

(。◕‿‿­­­­­­­◕。) (ENBB), Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:49 (twelve years ago) link

little chance jennifer's body is based on the hole song, right? i love that song.

horseshoe, Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:49 (twelve years ago) link

i love hole

(。◕‿‿­­­­­­­◕。) (ENBB), Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:50 (twelve years ago) link

it's NAMED after the hole song.

i think.

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:50 (twelve years ago) link

"The title is a reference to the song of the same name by Hole on their album Live Through This."

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

themoreuknow.jpg

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

lol I really did not pay attention to Juno, I think I missed almost the entirety of Jason Batemen's part

HOOBASTANK is my co-pilot (DJP), Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

thinking about the lyrics, i guess i don't really want to see a movie based on that song, even though i love it

horseshoe, Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

it's kind of a bummer jason bateman has to play a jackass but he was good, too

horseshoe, Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:52 (twelve years ago) link

I liked Jennifer's Body, although Diablo Cody's dialogue gets to be a bit much.

online pinata store (Nicole), Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:52 (twelve years ago) link

it has nothing to do with the song unless i'm forgetting the part in the song about the queen bitch cheerleader being sacrificed to satan by a touring indie band and coming back as a man-eating demon

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:52 (twelve years ago) link

Point of comparison: Thora Birch's character in Ghost World mostly consists of acerbic comebacks, yet I love the character and love the film. There's sometimes no accounting for how two versions of the same thing hit you differently.

clemenza, Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

ha i didn't even realize it was a diablo cody movie i thought strongo was just doing his peripatetic thing

horseshoe, Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:53 (twelve years ago) link

im pretty sure violet plays over the end credits

thora birch gets much better lines in ghost world than ellen page does in juno. spirit of the two movies is substantially different. the dialogue in juno is a bad fit because it's kind of a sentimental, earnest movie.

horseshoe, Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:54 (twelve years ago) link

yeah except dan clowes would punch himself in the face repeatedly before ever writing "honest to blog"

haha xpost hs come on i at least try to stay on point with my hatreds

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:54 (twelve years ago) link

i love amanda seyfried maybe i will watch this thing

xp i underestimated you!

horseshoe, Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:55 (twelve years ago) link

diablo cody's writing the upcoming Evil Dead remake, btw

lol seriously?

(。◕‿‿­­­­­­­◕。) (ENBB), Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:55 (twelve years ago) link

brb getting the bottle of bleach and a shot glass

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:55 (twelve years ago) link

The original ED?

Man why do they have to remake everything!?

(。◕‿‿­­­­­­­◕。) (ENBB), Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:56 (twelve years ago) link

Kill me now.

online pinata store (Nicole), Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:57 (twelve years ago) link

maybe spike lee will hire her to polish up the script for his oldboy remake too

death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:58 (twelve years ago) link

lol

(。◕‿‿­­­­­­­◕。) (ENBB), Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

omg I did not realize Diablo Cody wrote BURLESQUE

HOOBASTANK is my co-pilot (DJP), Thursday, 14 July 2011 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

I made my husband watch it with me last week and now I think he wants a divorce.

online pinata store (Nicole), Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:00 (twelve years ago) link

lol, we saw that IN THE THEATER

HOOBASTANK is my co-pilot (DJP), Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:00 (twelve years ago) link

so weird i had no idea diablo cody was involved in any of these

horseshoe, Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

I think maybe I no longer have any critical faculties

HOOBASTANK is my co-pilot (DJP), Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

The Evil Dead remake would help explain Juno's improbable Herschell Gordon Lewis fandom. (Which was really my point--such things seemed more like Juno's creators trying to impress me with their pop-culture knowledge than anything plausibly to do with Juno's character.)

clemenza, Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

i feel like she's trying to keep a low pro because everyone hates her

horseshoe, Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:01 (twelve years ago) link

Any chance at all that ED remake won't blow? Maybe?

(。◕‿‿­­­­­­­◕。) (ENBB), Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

haha who else could it have been? xp re burlesque

just makes me think of all those simpsons gags with hollywood producer types: "she's a stripper AND a writer. so we greenlit her to write... about strippers. it happened totally organically."

goole, Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

lol, we saw that IN THE THEATER

I saw it in a theater with someone else, so when it came on cable I had to watch it again. I think he's traumatized now.

online pinata store (Nicole), Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:02 (twelve years ago) link

clemenza: as someone who ran with a clique of smart, sarcastic kids in a MN town, all of that stuff is WAY more plausible than you'd think

we even had someone who would have said "honest to blog" had blogs existed, but she was considered "the dumb one"

HOOBASTANK is my co-pilot (DJP), Thursday, 14 July 2011 19:03 (twelve years ago) link


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