Dexy's Midnight Runners: Classic Or Dud

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wd have to listen to it separately, i will never contradict K. Rowland's decisions on anything

Everyday is a Whining Choad (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 08:37 (4 years ago) Permalink

Well, he decided it should come out, so yeh.

Mark G, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 08:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

As it was, the LP version was dominated by the conversational bits. It needed more songs

I dont agree with this at all.

Tim, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 09:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

Well, that's how it seemed to me at the time.

(Yeah, that does read a bit Geirlike: purely my opinion there, probably should have played it more at the time.)

.. buat having "Kev Rowl's 13th dream" opening it now makes so much more sense, why did they not have it there in the first place? Running time issues?

Mark G, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 09:27 (4 years ago) Permalink


Everyday is a Whining Choad (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 09:41 (4 years ago) Permalink

otm, 13th Dream a huge opener. Occasional Flicker makes sense, sort of, as statement of intent, but it's slow burn.

Quietus article mentions it, but in case Londoners do not know, Rowland DJing at How does It Feel on Saturday. I enjoyed it last time - he plays some 70s soul, sings along a bit (led crowd in acapella continuation of 'Let's Go Round Again'), generally A Good Time (though I spent large part of evening working myself up to say thank you for all the music, meant a lot to me etc etc to him). Will try to get along, but may have to persuade girlfriend. Not her crowd.

you don't exist in the database (woof), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 09:45 (4 years ago) Permalink

sorry xp otm, nv offtm

you don't exist in the database (woof), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 09:45 (4 years ago) Permalink

how often does he do this?

thomp, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 09:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

once every couple of years I think. This is the third time.

you don't exist in the database (woof), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 09:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

Mark G, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 09:56 (4 years ago) Permalink

maybe in two years i'll go

er, the director's cut looks way better at cd size, the original only works at vinyl size, so y'know

thomp, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 09:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

only saw the 12 minute This Is What She's Like Video (dailymotion + adverts, couldn't find a full youtube, soz) a few months ago – really show how great that look is/was.

you don't exist in the database (woof), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 10:13 (4 years ago) Permalink

The CD+DVD version sold for around £10 recently on ebay.

There's two on there now, but for £84 or £40, maybe waiting would be best...

Mark G, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 10:16 (4 years ago) Permalink

I always thought the Creation issue was just fine. The "poor mastering" or whatever always struck me as total revisionist horseshit, an outgrowth of KR's tendency toward self-loathing (just as the "MY DEAR FRIEND VINCENT CRANE, RIP" stuff on the original DSMD reissue seemed way over the top in retrospect -- probably had more to do with the fact that the dude died and struggled with manic depression all his life than the fact that he was one of Kev's soul brothers).

Love the guy, but he's not the guy I go to for a strict accounting of the past.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:11 (4 years ago) Permalink

Colin Allstations (PaulTMA), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 21:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

KR looks like Alan Partridge in the pic from the opened-up booklet

And we were wearing a lot of athletic shorts. (jamescobo), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 22:12 (4 years ago) Permalink

I've always loved Don't Stand Me Down but the Director's Cut made it an even better album for me. Kevin Rowland's 13th Time works so much better as an opener than The Occasional Flicker. I seem to remember in the sleeve notes Kevin said he didn't want it on the original issue as he thought some of the drums were slightly out of time, didn't hear it myself. Not many moments in songs make me smile as much as him telling his joke half way through the song, especially the other band members reactions.

The DVD is essential, This Is What She's Like is so much fun but it's the performance of Listen To This that sums up just why I love them so much.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 22:20 (4 years ago) Permalink

i've only ever heard the director's cut, haven't much tried to get into anything else they've done, but i fuckin love this to death:

You ever hear the one about the, ah, middle-class idiots, who sort of spend all their time analyzing their own emotions? And writin bullshit poetry? You know, that we're supposed to read? I mean as if we're fuckin interested.

j., Wednesday, 13 July 2011 05:27 (4 years ago) Permalink

where would that This Is What She's Like video have been seen at the time? i mean it's 12 minutes long and yet the single edit of the song was 3 minutes!

piscesx, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 06:41 (4 years ago) Permalink

Absolutely nowhere, that's where.

Which was (one of) the problem(s).

Mark G, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 08:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

9 months pass...

New record.

I'll admit I was scared, but on a first listen it sounds tremendous. And their LPs are always growers, right?

Tim, Monday, 23 April 2012 15:42 (4 years ago) Permalink

Very Growers.

Mark G, Monday, 23 April 2012 16:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

I'm really addicted to Nowhere is Home at the moment, his vocals sound so strong. Really quite excited for the album now. Some days I think they might just be my favourite band ever.

Kitchen Person, Monday, 23 April 2012 16:29 (4 years ago) Permalink

Is the book about them by Richard White worth reading?

fit and working again, Monday, 23 April 2012 18:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

This was them last night. They were brilliant.

nate woolls, Saturday, 5 May 2012 16:14 (4 years ago) Permalink

How were the new songs?

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 5 May 2012 16:21 (4 years ago) Permalink

It just gets stranger and stranger.

In G2 today, a confused piece by Barney Hoskyns about Southern rock (i.e. Allmans, Skynyrd) which basically says that Southern rock is great but actually it's not because of the area's history of racism. Great logical thinking there.

I don't get either why the Grauniad has suddenly decided to have a downer on Amazon. Lots of drivel both in print and on the website about poor benighted booksellers being put out of business by Amazon, it stops new writers coming through EXCUSE ME! Haven't I had a book out for the best part of a year? And who is stocking it in their shops? Precisely one in central London and it's not just me either - all you see when you go into Waterstones is the same old bullshit, celebrity kitchen nightmares and lots of loss-leader discounts. Take away the discounts and you have Daunt Books. Whereas Amazon actually stocks my book and that's where nearly all my sales have come from. If places like Waterstones were serious they'd tell their Finance & Marketing departments to go take a hike and actually take chances on stocking books by new or unknown writers. Rave reviews in The Wire and Mojo, called the best music book of 2011 in the Telegraph of all places - but none of that means anything to the chains - finance say shit, Waterstones jump on the shovel.

So I don't actually give a toss about how much tax Amazon are or aren't paying; they sell new writers, and bookshops do not, and until that changes bookshops have no right to have a go because they should be doing a hell of a lot more for the likes of us.

Tim, Saturday, 5 May 2012 22:48 (4 years ago) Permalink

Wurgh? I don't know what happened there, some strangeness with my phone - It seems to have quoted some text by Marcello on a thread from a while back. Sorry about that.

ANYWAY I've lived with "One Day I'll Soar" for a week or two now and it has grown on me as much as - more than - I'd hoped. It sounds like Dexys, which is a great start. It's closest in feel to "Don't Stand Me Down" but there are some delicious flavours of classy '70s soul: some WIllie Mitchell feeling here, some Philly business there. Like DSMD it doesn't have anything as hooky as "Come On Eileen" or "Geno" but the songs insinuate themselves very nicely. As ever with Dexys, you wind up feeling you have learned quite a lot about Kevin, sometimes maybe too much, but I find there are quite a number of laugh-out-loud moments on here too.

I adore the thing he does with the in-song conversations, and I don't know of anyone who does anything even vaguely similar. Do you?

I am now extremely excited about seeing them play the whole thing on Tuesday, especially with Nate's positive report here.

Tim, Sunday, 6 May 2012 07:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

Sorry I didn't reply. The new songs really were great, although the un-song conversations were a bit strange to see live - KR leaning on the other guy's shoulder and whispering in his ear; singing to pictures of a girl projected onto a screen, and then acting out scenes with the same girl later on.

Also, seeing them play an extended version of Come On Eileen made me appreciate what a great song it really is. Overplayed to death, but actually a brilliant song.

nate woolls, Sunday, 6 May 2012 08:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

Blatant self-promotion post but my 7000 word, 12-page interview/feature on Dexys is the cover story in the new Uncut.

Still only £4.80!

Stevie T, Sunday, 6 May 2012 09:35 (4 years ago) Permalink

Tim, so glad to hear the new album is strong. Really can't think of anyone else that does the conversations in the same way, it's what makes Don't Stand Me Down such an incredible album. Is the new album out there now or do you have a promo copy?

Nate, I saw them on the 2003 tour and they did lots of strange skits and lots of banter during the songs. It was without doubt the strangest and best gig I've ever been to. I won't be able to catch them this time unfortunately but would love to see them again. I totally agree with your thoughts on Come On Eileen, it's so overplayed and not one of my favourite Dexys songs at all but when they played it, it was so great and seeing the reaction it got was really something. I think I've appreciated the song a lot more since.

Steve, I just bought Uncut yesterday (saving it for a long flight next week) It's the first music magazine I've bought in ages. Really looking forward to reading the article.

Kitchen Person, Sunday, 6 May 2012 10:44 (4 years ago) Permalink

I got lucky with a promo - it's out at the start of June I believe.

Tim, Monday, 7 May 2012 10:01 (4 years ago) Permalink

4 weeks pass...

I really enjoyed it

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 18:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

This is brilliant. I'm so relieved.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 21:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

im listening to it again right now funnily enough

it looks like something rupert the bear would wear (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 5 June 2012 21:28 (3 years ago) Permalink

5 months pass...

This tour came to Australia for two theatre shows last week. It was ridiculously, heart-swellingly great.

( ͡° ͜ʖ͡°) (sic), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 02:08 (3 years ago) Permalink

People of a certain age will connect as deeply to this as I did to the records-over-the-phone sequence in The Virgin Suicides.

clemenza, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 03:35 (3 years ago) Permalink

This tour came to Australia for two theatre shows last week. It was ridiculously, heart-swellingly great.

This. I don't think I've ever had so much *fun* at any type of show/concert ever.

After Cease To Exist Button (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 20 November 2012 10:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

3 months pass...

I have just:

a) bought my tickets for the Duke of York's residency

b) Listened to Projected Passion Revue & thumped a wall in excitement harder than I intended at moment where Soon goes into Plan B.

Excited, knuckles hurt slightly, can't wait till April.

woof, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 21:38 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Going in I was a bit unsure about the new album & wondering whether my head was in the right place for latest part of the journey of K Rowland, but that was spectacular, an amazing evening. Really really fun, charming & the band are in great shape. Cathartic.

obvs highlight was This is What's She's Like, but Old – 'I'm getting old! What can I do? Absolutely nothing!' - was immense.

woof, Thursday, 25 April 2013 10:23 (3 years ago) Permalink

Sounds great, wish I could have gone to see them this time round. The show I saw them do in 2003 was maybe the best gig I've ever seen.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 25 April 2013 11:06 (3 years ago) Permalink

I saw them in 2003 too - I don't think it was quite up there with that, but haha yeah that's a v high bar, those shows were something else.

woof, Thursday, 25 April 2013 11:31 (3 years ago) Permalink

I went there not really knowing what to expect, just thought they would be doing a straight forward hits set I guess. I did not expect all the sketches and little details they added to those songs. It was funny, moving and just ridiculous at times. This Is What She's Like (like you said) was the big highlight for me but really the setlist was perfect. Love this band so much.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 25 April 2013 11:37 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah, this has a lot of those same elements - drama, intensity, self-mockery - & carried some bits over - like the 'how can I stop the burning?' Kev/Pete-as-Policeman routine (which was amazing again).

woof, Thursday, 25 April 2013 11:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

Haha, yeah that bit was amazing! I really love the album and would have liked to see it performed live but sadly I'm travelling in New Zealand and think by the time I get back to the UK the tour might be over.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 25 April 2013 12:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

& something I only saw recently - 9 minute Too-Rye-Ay era rework of There, There My Dear, w/ press-ups. So good:

woof, Thursday, 25 April 2013 13:13 (3 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

just didn't realise they were playing the roundhouse on Friday, think I might go again. Interested to see:

Sadly, Madeleine Hyland is unable to do the shows, but we are delighted that Siobhan Fahey will step in to play the female role. We’re sad that Maddy isn’t with us, but really feel good about Siobhan’s involvement.

woof, Monday, 23 June 2014 15:19 (1 year ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

This 1980 live recording shows a British "soul" band. The singer, Kevin Rowland, cries out his frustration being an Irishman living in England

woof, Sunday, 22 May 2016 01:16 (1 week ago) Permalink

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