mtv.com's "contenders for 2011's song of the summer"

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^^real heads know the deal

gucci mande (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:18 (twelve years ago) link

it doesn't have anything to do with the band lush

lex pretend, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:18 (twelve years ago) link

btw can we tempban everyone who votes for Jason Derülo

DJP, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:20 (twelve years ago) link

this is one of those times when you not understanding the entire human endeavor of humor is a problem (xpost)

hoovers like jagger (some dude), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

HAHA BTW THAT DERULO SONG IS #1 IN THE UK LOL AT ALL BRITS THAT HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT

gucci mande (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

they think it's pretty lush i guess

hoovers like jagger (some dude), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:22 (twelve years ago) link

did we mock you when "et" was billboard no 1

lex pretend, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:23 (twelve years ago) link

yes, yes you did

also I know I am alone on this board but I like "E.T."; there is absolutely nothing of value about "Don't Wanna Go Home" except maybe the fact that it ends

DJP, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:24 (twelve years ago) link

of course you like "ET," it sounds like Garbage (combined with actual garbage)

hoovers like jagger (some dude), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:25 (twelve years ago) link

ET is one of my favorite songs of the year

j lol (surm), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:26 (twelve years ago) link

::JAWS DROP::

j lol (surm), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:27 (twelve years ago) link

of course you like "ET," it sounds like Garbage (combined with actual garbage)

ow hard belly lol

DJP, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:27 (twelve years ago) link

voted for katy, but nicki is a close second. i love the britney video, too – but the song, i think, is a little overprocessed.

remy bean, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:29 (twelve years ago) link

that whole Britney song/video is even more thousand yard stare than her shit usually is, i can barely even tell what it's going for

hoovers like jagger (some dude), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:30 (twelve years ago) link

i know, i mean it's fine but it just sounds like everything else

j lol (surm), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:30 (twelve years ago) link

surm and j0rdan, at what point did you cave and start thinking of katy perry as an acceptable pop star?

lex pretend, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:32 (twelve years ago) link

for me it started with ET, and then the first time i saw "last friday night" the deal was sealed

she had some interesting things to say in the rolling stone article

j lol (surm), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:34 (twelve years ago) link

that whole Britney song/video is even more thousand yard stare than her shit usually is, i can barely even tell what it's going for

that's what i think is kind of fascinating about it. i can't tell what it's going for. it's the kind of inscrutable waltz i only like when i'm dancing to it.

remy bean, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

for me it started with ET, and then the first time i saw "last friday night" the deal was sealed

oh ok i kind of misphrased my qn, i meant what happened to the things you used to think were annoying about her - like i don't think she's changed at all really, what is it that makes her palatable now?

lex pretend, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

well - i loved "i kissed a girl" from the beginning. for me it's about the music, the image doesn't play such a huge factor. and bc i liked ET so much, i guess i was willing to be more open to her in general - and somehow, looking back, california gurls and teenage dream finally clicked for me, whereas they hadn't before. like i've had a few moments when i remember jordan talking about those songs, and now i get it. i dunno, i guess it was just a timing thing.

j lol (surm), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

altho the TGIF imagery def plays a huge factor.

j lol (surm), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:40 (twelve years ago) link

imo noone in their right mind has a rooting interest in katy perry but you have to pretty stubborn to hate all her singles if you have any kind of fondness for state of the art dr. luke chart bullshit -- for me about half her hits work and half don't

hoovers like jagger (some dude), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:43 (twelve years ago) link

I feel more like 3/4ths of her singles don't work. I hated all of the singles on the first album except for wishing Pink did "Waking Up in Vegas" instead, begrudgingly came to like "California Gurls" after repeated exposure, loved "Teenage Dream", hated "Firework", hated "E.T." more than anything else", and now really love "Last Friday Night".

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:46 (twelve years ago) link

stray quotation mark in there sry

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:46 (twelve years ago) link

it"s okay

remy bean, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:48 (twelve years ago) link

yeah generally imagining how much better her shit would be w/ Pink or someone else more capable singing it is part and parcel of this cruel bargain of accepting KP

hoovers like jagger (some dude), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:49 (twelve years ago) link

i would not want Pink to sing Katy Perry's songs, i don't really like Pink.

j lol (surm), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:50 (twelve years ago) link

okay that's kind of crazy, Pink is leagues better than Katy

DJP, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

that's our surm though

hoovers like jagger (some dude), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

i generally like Katy Perry's voice - her combination of strong alto and atmospheric falsetto works for me.

i think a lot of people that i know IRL would not say they prefer Pink over KP -- i don't think it's such an obvious choice.

j lol (surm), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:52 (twelve years ago) link

in your world of deaf people

hoovers like jagger (some dude), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

:) yea it's just me and my inner circle of deaf people who appreciate katy perry's voice

j lol (surm), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:57 (twelve years ago) link

i kind of feel KP's songs always pussy out of being quite as good or striking as they could be - "last friday night" is so lazily written, it's a list of dated clichés with a sprinkling of (lol also dated) "epic fail" phrases to make it more au courant - it sounds like dr luke wrote it 5 years ago and only just dug it out of some drawer.

and KP does not have the presence to make it transcend its clichés (usually this is where pop becomes great) because she tries to have her cake and eat it so much w/r/t her persona that it ends up way too nebulous to seize on to - like i hate ke$ha but she at least goes hard at what she does, you know exactly what she's about at all times. and in terms of performance KP's blaring, grating yawp is such that it actively drags down her better tunes, rather than selling them.

still think her best song by far is "california gurls" - "last friday night" is just forgettable and the video is gross. "et" is slightly better but the KP-does-björk styling of the video is tremendously embarrassing.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 17:59 (twelve years ago) link

"atmospheric falsetto" really??? KP's voice makes me flinch.

i'm not a fan of pink either but at least she was good a decade ago ;_;

lex pretend, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 18:00 (twelve years ago) link

i get that it doesn't work for you, but last friday night is supposed to be dated and lazy. it's an 80s hangover song.

j lol (surm), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 18:03 (twelve years ago) link

and tbh any "Kesha does it better" argument is an automatic epic fail in my book.

j lol (surm), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 18:05 (twelve years ago) link

u know how much i hate ke$ha!

lex pretend, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 18:06 (twelve years ago) link

god i hope so

j lol (surm), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 18:08 (twelve years ago) link

lol

I like a lot of Ke$ha's stuff too

DJP, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah I don't have much rooting interest in KP... sometimes I think she comes off as fun, other times annoying and try hard. Cali gurls and then teenage dream were the points I first really liked anything by her (I dug waking up in vegas but I could write it off as one good single out of four). Mostly I agree/disagree with her as the singles come and go. Hated hated et, love tgif. The way it goes etc

gucci mande (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 18:10 (twelve years ago) link

i accept Ke$ha and Katy as equally terrible with the caveat that KP does the kind of material i find far more tolerable

hoovers like jagger (some dude), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 18:11 (twelve years ago) link

Btw I heard party rock anthem today and... it's pretty great? I don't even hate the lame lunch on a rick ross single. Actually really dig the crookers/frankenhouse vibe too it and im usually not into it at all

I guess it makes sense that lmfao would strike gold and come up with a unique & identifiable eurohouse single amongst a slop of eurohouse singles

gucci mande (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 18:14 (twelve years ago) link

Lol lame lunch

Lame pun...

gucci mande (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 18:15 (twelve years ago) link

haha I thought that was slang analogous to "bite"

DJP, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 18:15 (twelve years ago) link

loll

j lol (surm), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 18:16 (twelve years ago) link

LMFAO is on some Das Racist 'clever' shit except instead of arch rap nerd meta it's just NO LED IN OUR ZEPPELIN!!!!!!

hoovers like jagger (some dude), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 18:16 (twelve years ago) link

used to be when Berry Gordy's offspring wanted a little pop notoriety they'd call in a favor from Michael Jackson for a hook, now we just get a douchey Mad TV version of the Black Eyed Peas

hoovers like jagger (some dude), Tuesday, 5 July 2011 18:18 (twelve years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Tuesday, 5 July 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 23:01 (twelve years ago) link

Unusually spot on poll results.

Tim F, Wednesday, 6 July 2011 23:20 (twelve years ago) link


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