Tootsie: Classic or Dud?

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ha that's not to say the leads let it down, obviously.

Darranzhi MacKhakhala (darraghmac), Monday, 4 July 2011 22:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

I constantly go around saying, "This is a coast too, George. New York is a coast."

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 July 2011 22:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah the throwaways were a cut above alright

Darranzhi MacKhakhala (darraghmac), Monday, 4 July 2011 23:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

The Les-Dorothy exchanges underrated.

DURNING: Another drink?

DOROTHY: No -- I have to keep my wits about me tonight.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Man he sure is a jerk to Sandy!

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Sunday, 6 May 2012 19:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

I liked this from an interview w/Terri Garr:

Tootsie (1982)—"Sandy Lester"

TG: I just saw that again recently. I hadn't seen it in twentysomething years. And it's the same thing! Pretty, nice girls being taken advantage of by slimy men. They put a man in a dress, and he's supposed to know what it feels like to be a woman. But of course he doesn't. I think what Dustin [Hoffman] says is, "I realize now how important it is for a woman to be pretty. And I wasn't pretty." God! That's all you realized? Jesus Christ. Oh well. Don't quote me. Actually, quote me.

AVC: You play this very neurotic character who's full of self-loathing, who's desperate for attention, yet somehow, she's sweet and likeable. Was all that indicated in the script, or was that something you brought to the role?

TG: I think that's something that I was or am. Likeable? I guess, yeah. But neurotic, yes. It was right at that time in history when feminism was rearing its ugly head, so I read all these books like The Second Sex, and that's where I got that line, "I know I'm responsible for my own orgasm." [Laughs.] I read that sentence and I thought, "What does that mean?" I didn't even know. I thought that [Sandy] was caught between trying to have a career and trying to be a sexual woman, and it just doesn't work. At least it didn't in that movie, because it was made by sexist men. I can say that now, because Sydney [Pollack] isn't with us anymore. [Laughs.] But he was a fine director.

AVC: But you thought he was sexist?

TG: Oh, yeah! I think so. He just wanted the beautiful, blond, cute, shiksa girls to be nice and shut the fuck up! [Laughs.] God, I'm bad. But that's what he wanted. And that's what the world wants, I think. I'm bitter. Bitter!

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Sunday, 6 May 2012 19:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

I mean Sandy's a real dipdy-doo in the movie, begging for Seconal after a bad party, but it kinda made me mad that the script lets Hoffman be the only woman in the movie with her wits about her. I liked the movie, it's funny, blah blah my feminist this 1983 just called.

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Sunday, 6 May 2012 20:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also Dustin Hoffman was a hot dude back in the day! Straw DOgs kinda made me forget that bcz of how loathsome he was in it.

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Sunday, 6 May 2012 20:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

Michael does treat Sandy shabbily but it's to the script and Garr's credit that she's awesome anyway.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 May 2012 20:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hilarious interview, by the way. She's otm about Lange getting nominated in the wrong category.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 May 2012 20:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

"What a good idea, a socket for a plug."

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Monday, 7 May 2012 03:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

xpost yeah that was unfair, but tptb felt that Lange was due for an award, and knew that Streep was a shoo-in for Best Actress, so...

nostalgia: this was the last movie our family (parents, 10yo sister and myself) all went out and saw together. my sister was particularly delighted with Murray's "You slut!" and the cattle-prod line.

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 7 May 2012 09:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Teri Garr on fire all through that interview! She was a doll on "Sonny & Cher" too, even w/ the often crappy writing.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Monday, 7 May 2012 15:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

this is kind of amazing:

some dude, Sunday, 7 July 2013 20:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

the Terri Garr quote a few posts up seems like kind of a retort to possibly when Hoffman said something similar in simpler terms (or maybe she's simplifying/paraphrasing), but still, I like how he puts it there.

some dude, Sunday, 7 July 2013 20:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

whoa! I wasn't expecting that last line.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 7 July 2013 20:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

I've expressed my love for the film many times. That clip's a little hard to watch in its Bobby Bittmanesque "As a comic, Sammy, in all seriousness"...I'm sure Hoffman's quite sincere in what he says, which is maybe part of why the film's so good: he was making one movie while everybody else worked around him making another.

clemenza, Sunday, 7 July 2013 20:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

wow hoffamn rocks there!

i lost my shoes on acid (jed_), Sunday, 7 July 2013 21:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

I remember seeing that clip when the AFI ran their list show. I think he added something like "I know it's a comedy, but comedy is serious business."

the evening dj there (Eric H.), Sunday, 7 July 2013 21:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

I saw this film once, during its initial release, in a theater. Not since then. My only impression of it was that it was moderately funny, but not hilarious, and the so-called pro-feminist message in it was so watered down, so shallow, so reductionist, that it seemed no different than any other over-hyped mainstream Hollywood movie. But at the time I still had a few intellectual bones in my body. Maybe today I'd laugh like a jackass.

Aimless, Monday, 8 July 2013 04:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

tbh i've never even watched this movie, i just liked that DH interview

some dude, Monday, 8 July 2013 10:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

movie is great. DH clip is amazing, too.

Puff Daddy, whoever the fuck you are. I am dissapoint. (stevie), Monday, 8 July 2013 10:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

But at the time I still had a few intellectual bones in my body. Maybe today I'd laugh like a jackass.

haha this shouldn't be a binary

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 July 2013 11:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

"What a good idea, a socket for a plug."

― Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Sunday, May 6, 2012 11:21 PM

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 September 2013 02:25 (10 months ago) Permalink

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