Tootsie: Classic or Dud?

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maybe, but i agree with upthread comment- traded punchiness for sentimentality with the emergence of the 'love story' angle.

Teri Garr and Pollock were great in their roles, picked it up whenever they appeared

Darranzhi MacKhakhala (darraghmac), Monday, 4 July 2011 22:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

ha that's not to say the leads let it down, obviously.

Darranzhi MacKhakhala (darraghmac), Monday, 4 July 2011 22:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

I constantly go around saying, "This is a coast too, George. New York is a coast."

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 July 2011 22:50 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah the throwaways were a cut above alright

Darranzhi MacKhakhala (darraghmac), Monday, 4 July 2011 23:01 (3 years ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

The Les-Dorothy exchanges underrated.

DURNING: Another drink?

DOROTHY: No -- I have to keep my wits about me tonight.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 March 2012 13:15 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 month passes...

Man he sure is a jerk to Sandy!

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Sunday, 6 May 2012 19:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

I liked this from an interview w/Terri Garr:

Tootsie (1982)—"Sandy Lester"

TG: I just saw that again recently. I hadn't seen it in twentysomething years. And it's the same thing! Pretty, nice girls being taken advantage of by slimy men. They put a man in a dress, and he's supposed to know what it feels like to be a woman. But of course he doesn't. I think what Dustin [Hoffman] says is, "I realize now how important it is for a woman to be pretty. And I wasn't pretty." God! That's all you realized? Jesus Christ. Oh well. Don't quote me. Actually, quote me.

AVC: You play this very neurotic character who's full of self-loathing, who's desperate for attention, yet somehow, she's sweet and likeable. Was all that indicated in the script, or was that something you brought to the role?

TG: I think that's something that I was or am. Likeable? I guess, yeah. But neurotic, yes. It was right at that time in history when feminism was rearing its ugly head, so I read all these books like The Second Sex, and that's where I got that line, "I know I'm responsible for my own orgasm." [Laughs.] I read that sentence and I thought, "What does that mean?" I didn't even know. I thought that [Sandy] was caught between trying to have a career and trying to be a sexual woman, and it just doesn't work. At least it didn't in that movie, because it was made by sexist men. I can say that now, because Sydney [Pollack] isn't with us anymore. [Laughs.] But he was a fine director.

AVC: But you thought he was sexist?

TG: Oh, yeah! I think so. He just wanted the beautiful, blond, cute, shiksa girls to be nice and shut the fuck up! [Laughs.] God, I'm bad. But that's what he wanted. And that's what the world wants, I think. I'm bitter. Bitter!

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Sunday, 6 May 2012 19:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

I mean Sandy's a real dipdy-doo in the movie, begging for Seconal after a bad party, but it kinda made me mad that the script lets Hoffman be the only woman in the movie with her wits about her. I liked the movie, it's funny, blah blah my feminist this 1983 just called.

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Sunday, 6 May 2012 20:00 (2 years ago) Permalink

Also Dustin Hoffman was a hot dude back in the day! Straw DOgs kinda made me forget that bcz of how loathsome he was in it.

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Sunday, 6 May 2012 20:01 (2 years ago) Permalink

Michael does treat Sandy shabbily but it's to the script and Garr's credit that she's awesome anyway.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 May 2012 20:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

Hilarious interview, by the way. She's otm about Lange getting nominated in the wrong category.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 May 2012 20:11 (2 years ago) Permalink

"What a good idea, a socket for a plug."

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Monday, 7 May 2012 03:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

xpost yeah that was unfair, but tptb felt that Lange was due for an award, and knew that Streep was a shoo-in for Best Actress, so...

nostalgia: this was the last movie our family (parents, 10yo sister and myself) all went out and saw together. my sister was particularly delighted with Murray's "You slut!" and the cattle-prod line.

Race Against Rockism (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 7 May 2012 09:09 (2 years ago) Permalink

Teri Garr on fire all through that interview! She was a doll on "Sonny & Cher" too, even w/ the often crappy writing.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Monday, 7 May 2012 15:54 (2 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

this is kind of amazing:

some dude, Sunday, 7 July 2013 20:05 (1 year ago) Permalink

the Terri Garr quote a few posts up seems like kind of a retort to possibly when Hoffman said something similar in simpler terms (or maybe she's simplifying/paraphrasing), but still, I like how he puts it there.

some dude, Sunday, 7 July 2013 20:08 (1 year ago) Permalink

whoa! I wasn't expecting that last line.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 7 July 2013 20:20 (1 year ago) Permalink

I've expressed my love for the film many times. That clip's a little hard to watch in its Bobby Bittmanesque "As a comic, Sammy, in all seriousness"...I'm sure Hoffman's quite sincere in what he says, which is maybe part of why the film's so good: he was making one movie while everybody else worked around him making another.

clemenza, Sunday, 7 July 2013 20:25 (1 year ago) Permalink

wow hoffamn rocks there!

i lost my shoes on acid (jed_), Sunday, 7 July 2013 21:18 (1 year ago) Permalink

I remember seeing that clip when the AFI ran their list show. I think he added something like "I know it's a comedy, but comedy is serious business."

the evening dj there (Eric H.), Sunday, 7 July 2013 21:32 (1 year ago) Permalink

I saw this film once, during its initial release, in a theater. Not since then. My only impression of it was that it was moderately funny, but not hilarious, and the so-called pro-feminist message in it was so watered down, so shallow, so reductionist, that it seemed no different than any other over-hyped mainstream Hollywood movie. But at the time I still had a few intellectual bones in my body. Maybe today I'd laugh like a jackass.

Aimless, Monday, 8 July 2013 04:24 (1 year ago) Permalink

tbh i've never even watched this movie, i just liked that DH interview

some dude, Monday, 8 July 2013 10:49 (1 year ago) Permalink

movie is great. DH clip is amazing, too.

Puff Daddy, whoever the fuck you are. I am dissapoint. (stevie), Monday, 8 July 2013 10:58 (1 year ago) Permalink

But at the time I still had a few intellectual bones in my body. Maybe today I'd laugh like a jackass.

haha this shouldn't be a binary

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 July 2013 11:02 (1 year ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

"What a good idea, a socket for a plug."

― Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Sunday, May 6, 2012 11:21 PM

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 September 2013 02:25 (10 months ago) Permalink

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