Rolling Boxing Thread / Anticipating Manny vs. Mayweather

the easiest sport to understand.

on the evidence of this fight jeff is otm. you can't 'only beat what's in front of you.' people who came with this kind of game against joe louis got their hats handed to them. to take no risks, to care so little about people who paid to get in, is the mark of a shitty entertainer, shitty person, and shitty fighter. get the fuck out of the game if you didn't come to entertain

did you c&p that from youtube?

You should post on sports threads more, keep everybody in check. xpost

i apologise for my silly post, i only countenance people getting real hormonal if they're talking about football.

people who came with this kind of game against joe louis got their hats handed to them.
― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, July 2, 2011 11:52 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Both Klitschko brothers have a significantly better KO percentage than Louis.

I'm sure the Klitschkos could start a bum of the month club like Louis did and fight guys who throw themselves headlong into them, but instead they make title defenses against top 15 guys over and over and knock them out 95% of the time.

Was Tyson not an "entertainer" because he let guys like Mitch Green hug their way to wide decision losses?

Sometimes your opponent just doesn't want to fight.

to find a fight that awful you have to go way back
― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, July 2, 2011 10:42 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Jesus, how much heavyweight boxing have you watched? Awful heavyweight title fights happen ALL THE TIME. They always have.

How was this fight any different than, for example, Lewis-Tua?

tonight one of this pair will be the unified Heavyweight champ. jesus.

― SB OK (Noodle Vague), Saturday, July 2, 2011 9:57 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

not really, since Vitali has the other belt.

Lewis-Tua was also appalling, the h'weight division has sucked for years but honestly you're gonna defend Wlad's performance tonight? really?

completely unbelievable to me that anybody who gives 1/4 of a shit about boxing defends the mirthless Klitschkos, neither of whom ever saw a least-possible-effort points victory they weren't willing to defraud the public for. They're like batters with small strike zones getting as many bases on balls as possible and then getting acclaimed for their OBP. They suck ass, both of them. Their competition's worse, but

Sometimes your opponent just doesn't want to fight.

that's right. that's when you knock him the fuck out and get it over with instead of feeding him your weakest jabs all night.

sometimes yr drunk and just want to watch a drawn-out shitty match, though. he's thinking of my demographic at least.

evidently it's not a shitty match if...well tbh I can't think of any grounds on which this wasn't a shitty match but evidently matt & jim found a fight almost completely devoid of combinations by two fighters without an ounce of heart between them very satisfying

man you know damn well i will watch anything where two people hit each other

guys playing street fighter 2 in pizza hut's lobby for a couple hours, shitty boxing matches, andy capp comics

xposts I think you just brought out the contrarian in ppl by seeming to want to yawn the loudest

completely unbelievable to me that anybody who gives 1/4 of a shit about boxing defends the mirthless Klitschkos, neither of whom ever saw a least-possible-effort points victory
― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 3 July 2011 01:30 (1 hour ago)

Vitali Klitschko has the best KO percentage of any heavyweight champion in history.

that's when you knock him the fuck out and get it over with instead of feeding him your weakest jabs all night.

― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, July 3, 2011 1:30 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

not if you can't catch him.

Manny Pacquiao, one of the 10 most exciting fighters ever, just had a really boring fight because his opponent didn't want to fight. The same thing happened in his fight with Josh Clottey. No one raked him over the coals for it, and for good reason. It's not his responsibility to fight like a maniac because his opponent is running from him.

evidently matt & jim found a fight almost completely devoid of combinations by two fighters without an ounce of heart between them very satisfying
― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, July 3, 2011 1:36 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

lol "heart." Where did Klitschko show a lack of heart? By not fighting like a heavyweight Aaron Pryor? You put Larry Holmes in the ring tonight with Haye and the fight is just as boring (although maybe Haye wouldn't have been so terrified and actually would have opened up).

Lewis-Tua was also appalling, the h'weight division has sucked for years but honestly you're gonna defend Wlad's performance tonight? really?

― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, July 3, 2011 1:27 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

You said we had to go "way back" to find a heavyweight title fight this bad, and it's just not true. Awful heavyweight title fights (fights worse than this one!) have been happening ever since the division was created. Tyson-Green, Tyson-Smith, Lewis-Tua, Ali-Young (a fight that made tonight's look like Gatti-Ward) etc.

point taken re: KO record, yr right. also yr right about "way back" being hyperbolic it's just this fight totally sucked and it pissed me off

Re: K's recordhow many future Hall of Famers do you count in it? Maybe Lennox Lewis, who beat him (stopped on a cut according the record, I didn't see that fight). Otherwise's knocked out 28 people who will be completely forgotten by history. You can say that that's not his fault, and you'll be right, but you can't argue that his KO % is much to speak about; do you think Frazier, Holmes, Foreman, Ali, Norton, Shavers, Tyson, Holyfield up 'til about '96, Coetzee, Qawi, or Pinklon Thomas wouldn't have racked up a similar percentage against the likes of Ross Purrity, Orlin Norris, and Albert Sosnowski? I know that sounds like cherry-picking the nobodies but seriously man...who has this guy beat that you rate at all?

xp Pacquiao v. Mosley was the battle of the midway compared to Klistschko/Haye

Where did Klitschko show a lack of heart?

by hardly throwing any punches and coasting to an easy decision?

do you think Frazier, Holmes, Foreman, Ali, Norton, Shavers, Tyson, Holyfield up 'til about '96, Coetzee, Qawi, or Pinklon Thomas wouldn't have racked up a similar percentage against the likes of Ross Purrity, Orlin Norris, and Albert Sosnowski? I know that sounds like cherry-picking the nobodies but seriously man...who has this guy beat that you rate at all?
― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, July 3, 2011 3:23 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

I'm not saying Vitali is one of the greatest heavyweights of all time, I'm saying he's not interested in coasting to points decisions. He methodically breaks people down and KOs them.

Wladimir is more cautious than his brother because he has stamina problems and a glass chin.

by hardly throwing any punches and coasting to an easy decision?

― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, July 3, 2011 3:26 AM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark

Lack of heart is quitting or giving up, not banking round after round on points. By that logic Marco Antonio Barrera showed a lack of heart vs. Hamed, for example.

Maybe Lennox Lewis, who beat him (stopped on a cut according the record, I didn't see that fight).

Dude you have to see it, it's the best heavyweight fight of the past 15 years.

(ok, 14 years, Ibeabuchi-Tua was 97)

! seriously? who knows maybe I will become a Klitschko convert

or maybe you are joking and doing a good impression of my hyperbolic style idk

I'll get a clean copy from my fights dude but if he laughs at me for ordering it I'm gonna say "don't blame me I wanted to complete my Paez collection but matt armstrong told me klitschko/lewis was the shit"

! seriously? who knows maybe I will become a Klitschko convert

or maybe you are joking and doing a good impression of my hyperbolic style idk

― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, July 3, 2011 3:42 AM (46 seconds ago) Bookmark

No it's a crazy war. Other than Golota-Bowe 2 it's probably the only fight where superheavyweights really slugged it out at an elite level.

I'm sure it's on youtube too

I know I just can't stand watching fights on youtube, get these kids off my lawn etc

tonight's UFC was amazing, y'all. SB if you must. i will take all of them. g'night!

Apparently Sky fucked up their PPV and apologised to all the people who weren't able to buy the fight. Shd be apologising to all the poor bastards who were able to.

also Haye lost because he had a broken toe yeah that's right Dave god just quit please

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Maybe Lennox Lewis, who beat him (stopped on a cut according the record, I didn't see that fight).
Dude you have to see it, it's the best heavyweight fight of the past 15 years.

― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, July 2, 2011 11:41 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark

that was the fight that made me a boxing fan fwiw

Lara vs. Williams tonight, I think Williams's first after the savage KO by Martinez?

anybody watching Antillon-Rios right now? looks like the better choice than Williams-Lara. Cintron looked sluggish and uninspired in the undercard fight, lost by unanimous decision.

well, if you missed round 1 of Antillon-Rios, you missed one of the best rounds of the year. Jesus! rock-em sock-em stuff.

holy shit all boxing hands on deck for this one this is like the olympic auditorium in the 70s. two full rounds of non-stop banging.

rios is nasty

well it's over now but it's nice to see a hit-and-hit-back fight, fucking A. everybody goin nuts.

I'm flipping over to Williams-Lara but there is just no way it can measure up

williams is just a huge target & gets hit way too much

Margarito in street clothes in Rios's corner...dude does the sleazy look better than pretty much anybody

Lara-Williams is ok Rios-Antillon was just...that was fucking great.

Paul Williams given a joke of a decision against Lara. Everybody in the building knows Lara destroyed him, everybody's completely disgusted.

wow i had turned that off b4 the decision

rios' punches seemed hard as hell & was kinda walking thru antillons shots

antillon caught him with good stuff imo, it's just that rios is pretty unshakeable right now - he's got pac-like intensity

teddy atlas going OFF about the wms-lara decision on FNF right now