you're not serious right jim in glasgow - to find a fight that awful you have to go way back - zero combos - no actual knockdowns - pathetic "let me just draw this paycheck" performance from both fighters - if either one of those guys got paid with a cheese sandwich, then shame on the guy who made the cheese sandwich - hope they both get carpal tunnel tomorrow & never fight again
― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 2 July 2011 22:42 (twelve years ago) link
this was shitty, but essentially wlad did what had to be done. you can only beat what's in front of you. beating haye with just leading with his jabs was always going to be the tactic.
― Introducing the Hardline According to (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 2 July 2011 22:46 (twelve years ago) link
boxing sucks, guys
― jeff, Saturday, 2 July 2011 23:32 (twelve years ago) link
SB'd you for that
― SB OK (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 July 2011 23:33 (twelve years ago) link
the easiest sport to understand.
― Introducing the Hardline According to (jim in glasgow), Saturday, 2 July 2011 23:36 (twelve years ago) link
on the evidence of this fight jeff is otm. you can't 'only beat what's in front of you.' people who came with this kind of game against joe louis got their hats handed to them. to take no risks, to care so little about people who paid to get in, is the mark of a shitty entertainer, shitty person, and shitty fighter. get the fuck out of the game if you didn't come to entertain
― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 2 July 2011 23:52 (twelve years ago) link
did you c&p that from youtube?
― Introducing the Hardline According to (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 3 July 2011 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
You should post on sports threads more, keep everybody in check. xpost
― boxall, Sunday, 3 July 2011 00:02 (twelve years ago) link
i apologise for my silly post, i only countenance people getting real hormonal if they're talking about football.
― Introducing the Hardline According to (jim in glasgow), Sunday, 3 July 2011 00:04 (twelve years ago) link
people who came with this kind of game against joe louis got their hats handed to them.― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, July 2, 2011 11:52 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
Both Klitschko brothers have a significantly better KO percentage than Louis.
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 3 July 2011 00:34 (twelve years ago) link
I'm sure the Klitschkos could start a bum of the month club like Louis did and fight guys who throw themselves headlong into them, but instead they make title defenses against top 15 guys over and over and knock them out 95% of the time.
Was Tyson not an "entertainer" because he let guys like Mitch Green hug their way to wide decision losses?
Sometimes your opponent just doesn't want to fight.
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 3 July 2011 00:36 (twelve years ago) link
to find a fight that awful you have to go way back― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, July 2, 2011 10:42 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
Jesus, how much heavyweight boxing have you watched? Awful heavyweight title fights happen ALL THE TIME. They always have.
How was this fight any different than, for example, Lewis-Tua?
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 3 July 2011 00:39 (twelve years ago) link
tonight one of this pair will be the unified Heavyweight champ. jesus.
― SB OK (Noodle Vague), Saturday, July 2, 2011 9:57 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
not really, since Vitali has the other belt.
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 3 July 2011 00:41 (twelve years ago) link
Lewis-Tua was also appalling, the h'weight division has sucked for years but honestly you're gonna defend Wlad's performance tonight? really?
― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 3 July 2011 01:27 (twelve years ago) link
completely unbelievable to me that anybody who gives 1/4 of a shit about boxing defends the mirthless Klitschkos, neither of whom ever saw a least-possible-effort points victory they weren't willing to defraud the public for. They're like batters with small strike zones getting as many bases on balls as possible and then getting acclaimed for their OBP. They suck ass, both of them. Their competition's worse, but
that's right. that's when you knock him the fuck out and get it over with instead of feeding him your weakest jabs all night.
― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 3 July 2011 01:30 (twelve years ago) link
sometimes yr drunk and just want to watch a drawn-out shitty match, though. he's thinking of my demographic at least.
― death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 3 July 2011 01:32 (twelve years ago) link
evidently it's not a shitty match if...well tbh I can't think of any grounds on which this wasn't a shitty match but evidently matt & jim found a fight almost completely devoid of combinations by two fighters without an ounce of heart between them very satisfying
― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 3 July 2011 01:36 (twelve years ago) link
man you know damn well i will watch anything where two people hit each other
― death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 3 July 2011 01:37 (twelve years ago) link
guys playing street fighter 2 in pizza hut's lobby for a couple hours, shitty boxing matches, andy capp comics
― death to ilx, long live the frogbs (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 3 July 2011 01:38 (twelve years ago) link
xposts I think you just brought out the contrarian in ppl by seeming to want to yawn the loudest
― boxall, Sunday, 3 July 2011 01:45 (twelve years ago) link
completely unbelievable to me that anybody who gives 1/4 of a shit about boxing defends the mirthless Klitschkos, neither of whom ever saw a least-possible-effort points victory― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 3 July 2011 01:30 (1 hour ago)
Vitali Klitschko has the best KO percentage of any heavyweight champion in history.
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 3 July 2011 03:09 (twelve years ago) link
that's when you knock him the fuck out and get it over with instead of feeding him your weakest jabs all night.
― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, July 3, 2011 1:30 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
not if you can't catch him.
Manny Pacquiao, one of the 10 most exciting fighters ever, just had a really boring fight because his opponent didn't want to fight. The same thing happened in his fight with Josh Clottey. No one raked him over the coals for it, and for good reason. It's not his responsibility to fight like a maniac because his opponent is running from him.
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 3 July 2011 03:13 (twelve years ago) link
evidently matt & jim found a fight almost completely devoid of combinations by two fighters without an ounce of heart between them very satisfying― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, July 3, 2011 1:36 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
lol "heart." Where did Klitschko show a lack of heart? By not fighting like a heavyweight Aaron Pryor? You put Larry Holmes in the ring tonight with Haye and the fight is just as boring (although maybe Haye wouldn't have been so terrified and actually would have opened up).
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 3 July 2011 03:15 (twelve years ago) link
― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, July 3, 2011 1:27 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
You said we had to go "way back" to find a heavyweight title fight this bad, and it's just not true. Awful heavyweight title fights (fights worse than this one!) have been happening ever since the division was created. Tyson-Green, Tyson-Smith, Lewis-Tua, Ali-Young (a fight that made tonight's look like Gatti-Ward) etc.
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 3 July 2011 03:17 (twelve years ago) link
point taken re: KO record, yr right. also yr right about "way back" being hyperbolic it's just this fight totally sucked and it pissed me off
Re: K's recordhow many future Hall of Famers do you count in it? Maybe Lennox Lewis, who beat him (stopped on a cut according the record, I didn't see that fight). Otherwise's knocked out 28 people who will be completely forgotten by history. You can say that that's not his fault, and you'll be right, but you can't argue that his KO % is much to speak about; do you think Frazier, Holmes, Foreman, Ali, Norton, Shavers, Tyson, Holyfield up 'til about '96, Coetzee, Qawi, or Pinklon Thomas wouldn't have racked up a similar percentage against the likes of Ross Purrity, Orlin Norris, and Albert Sosnowski? I know that sounds like cherry-picking the nobodies but seriously man...who has this guy beat that you rate at all?
xp Pacquiao v. Mosley was the battle of the midway compared to Klistschko/Haye
― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 3 July 2011 03:23 (twelve years ago) link
Where did Klitschko show a lack of heart?
by hardly throwing any punches and coasting to an easy decision?
― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 3 July 2011 03:26 (twelve years ago) link
do you think Frazier, Holmes, Foreman, Ali, Norton, Shavers, Tyson, Holyfield up 'til about '96, Coetzee, Qawi, or Pinklon Thomas wouldn't have racked up a similar percentage against the likes of Ross Purrity, Orlin Norris, and Albert Sosnowski? I know that sounds like cherry-picking the nobodies but seriously man...who has this guy beat that you rate at all?― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, July 3, 2011 3:23 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark
I'm not saying Vitali is one of the greatest heavyweights of all time, I'm saying he's not interested in coasting to points decisions. He methodically breaks people down and KOs them.
Wladimir is more cautious than his brother because he has stamina problems and a glass chin.
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 3 July 2011 03:38 (twelve years ago) link
― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, July 3, 2011 3:26 AM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark
Lack of heart is quitting or giving up, not banking round after round on points. By that logic Marco Antonio Barrera showed a lack of heart vs. Hamed, for example.
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 3 July 2011 03:39 (twelve years ago) link
Maybe Lennox Lewis, who beat him (stopped on a cut according the record, I didn't see that fight).
Dude you have to see it, it's the best heavyweight fight of the past 15 years.
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 3 July 2011 03:41 (twelve years ago) link
(ok, 14 years, Ibeabuchi-Tua was 97)
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 3 July 2011 03:42 (twelve years ago) link
! seriously? who knows maybe I will become a Klitschko convert
or maybe you are joking and doing a good impression of my hyperbolic style idk
― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 3 July 2011 03:42 (twelve years ago) link
I'll get a clean copy from my fights dude but if he laughs at me for ordering it I'm gonna say "don't blame me I wanted to complete my Paez collection but matt armstrong told me klitschko/lewis was the shit"
― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 3 July 2011 03:43 (twelve years ago) link
― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, July 3, 2011 3:42 AM (46 seconds ago) Bookmark
No it's a crazy war. Other than Golota-Bowe 2 it's probably the only fight where superheavyweights really slugged it out at an elite level.
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 3 July 2011 03:44 (twelve years ago) link
I'm sure it's on youtube too
I know I just can't stand watching fights on youtube, get these kids off my lawn etc
― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 3 July 2011 03:45 (twelve years ago) link
tonight's UFC was amazing, y'all. SB if you must. i will take all of them. g'night!
― jeff, Sunday, 3 July 2011 05:20 (twelve years ago) link
Apparently Sky fucked up their PPV and apologised to all the people who weren't able to buy the fight. Shd be apologising to all the poor bastards who were able to.
― SB OK (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 3 July 2011 07:07 (twelve years ago) link
also Haye lost because he had a broken toe yeah that's right Dave god just quit please
― SB OK (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 3 July 2011 07:08 (twelve years ago) link
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― Fizzles the Chimp (GamalielRatsey), Sunday, 3 July 2011 07:42 (twelve years ago) link
Maybe Lennox Lewis, who beat him (stopped on a cut according the record, I didn't see that fight).Dude you have to see it, it's the best heavyweight fight of the past 15 years.
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, July 2, 2011 11:41 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark
that was the fight that made me a boxing fan fwiw
― Ayatollah Colm Meaney (Princess TamTam), Wednesday, 6 July 2011 08:27 (twelve years ago) link
Lara vs. Williams tonight, I think Williams's first after the savage KO by Martinez?
― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 9 July 2011 18:24 (twelve years ago) link
anybody watching Antillon-Rios right now? looks like the better choice than Williams-Lara. Cintron looked sluggish and uninspired in the undercard fight, lost by unanimous decision.
― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 10 July 2011 03:12 (twelve years ago) link
well, if you missed round 1 of Antillon-Rios, you missed one of the best rounds of the year. Jesus! rock-em sock-em stuff.
― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 10 July 2011 03:21 (twelve years ago) link
holy shit all boxing hands on deck for this one this is like the olympic auditorium in the 70s. two full rounds of non-stop banging.
― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 10 July 2011 03:26 (twelve years ago) link
rios is nasty
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 10 July 2011 03:28 (twelve years ago) link
well it's over now but it's nice to see a hit-and-hit-back fight, fucking A. everybody goin nuts.
― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 10 July 2011 03:30 (twelve years ago) link
I'm flipping over to Williams-Lara but there is just no way it can measure up
― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 10 July 2011 03:33 (twelve years ago) link
williams is just a huge target & gets hit way too much
― johnny crunch, Sunday, 10 July 2011 03:34 (twelve years ago) link
Margarito in street clothes in Rios's corner...dude does the sleazy look better than pretty much anybody
― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 10 July 2011 03:36 (twelve years ago) link
Lara-Williams is ok Rios-Antillon was just...that was fucking great.
― love in a grain elevator (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 10 July 2011 03:54 (twelve years ago) link