as in the audio input on the machine? or a usb input?
― coffeetripperspillerslyricmakeruppers (Latham Green), Friday, 1 July 2011 18:53 (1 year ago) Permalink
jack the extra extra layer of audio libraries on top of pulse / alsa / oss / whatever
http://jackaudio.org/
― koogs, Friday, 1 July 2011 20:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
yeah the interaction between jack / pulseaudio / alsa / oss is something i've never understood either
― tpp, Friday, 1 July 2011 23:08 (1 year ago) Permalink
― koogs, Saturday, 2 July 2011 09:01 (1 year ago) Permalink
lol
― tpp, Saturday, 2 July 2011 09:06 (1 year ago) Permalink
linux in a nutshell
― Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 2 July 2011 10:51 (1 year ago) Permalink
Recording music on a computer is beyond me, but have any of you tried the UbuntuStudio flavor? It claims to be preloaded and configured for creation.
also, DeadBeef is my favorite music player. It's closest to boring unmodified foobar2000 in use.
― Zachary Taylor, Saturday, 2 July 2011 16:09 (1 year ago) Permalink
audio in linux is so fucked.
― my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 2 July 2011 16:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
whyfucked?
― coffeetripperspillerslyricmakeruppers (Latham Green), Saturday, 2 July 2011 18:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
that diagram is a pretty good explanation! there are a whole bunch of different libraries/driver sets and all of them are half-finished and sometimes programs only like one of them, or two of them, or one of them only if it's "wrapped" inside another one, and sometimes updates break them, etc.. for a while after installing ubuntu i couldn't get sound from more than one program at a time, which i tell people i "fixed" but which really just stopped being a problem one day because i lit the right number of votive candles. things have been pretty smooth since then (although the sound in the native linux version of quake 3 could not be convinced to work and i eventually just installed the windows version under wine) and like everything else in linux It Gets Better but it's still the thing i've had the most problems with.
― my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 2 July 2011 18:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
(what bugged me this morning was trying to remember the name of the program that handles pdfs. works when i double-click on them but i was trying to add a pdf to the task bar and just dragging it there didn't work. was 'evince' ffs)― koogs, Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:08 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark
― koogs, Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:08 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark
loled @ this btw, love/hate the gnomic (gnumic) linux app names. "ekiga", "gwibber", "brasero", "pitivi".
― my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 2 July 2011 18:37 (1 year ago) Permalink
hate microsoft and everything but you know what was a good name for a program? "word".
― my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 2 July 2011 18:39 (1 year ago) Permalink
lol that's a good point actually
― fields of salmon, Saturday, 2 July 2011 18:49 (1 year ago) Permalink
like everything else in linux It Gets Better
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 2 July 2011 19:36 (1 year ago) Permalink
the first ubuntu release that used pulseaudio was pretty dreadful - even the startup sound got the glitch remix treatment. second version was MUCH better. and it's a while since i've had any specific trouble (about a year ago, mplayer -ao oss to get decent playback of some media or other)
― koogs, Saturday, 2 July 2011 21:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
love/hate the gnomic (gnumic) linux app names. "ekiga", "gwibber", "brasero", "pitivi".
― my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 3 July 2011 04:37 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
also all the kde names that absolutely must begin with a k (no love there, just hate)
― Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Saturday, 2 July 2011 22:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
i experimented with ubuntu for a couple weeks before giving up in frustration by the sheer amount of effort i needed to put into things just to run super simple tasks. plugins, plugins, plugins, plugins....
so i aint h8in but can anyone explain to me the appeal of linux outside of server usages?
― cut my life into pizza (kelpolaris), Sunday, 3 July 2011 01:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
You feel cool
― coffeetripperspillerslyricmakeruppers (Latham Green), Sunday, 3 July 2011 02:16 (1 year ago) Permalink
- no viruses- no adware- no spyware- free stuff- no windows- less nagging (less an issue c/w win7)
― Gary Barlow syndrome (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 3 July 2011 03:02 (1 year ago) Permalink
Linux is good for my yak shavey moods when I want everything to be esoteric and command line based and use tiling window managers that you have to recompile to configure and stuff like that.
― T.S. Eliot-themed roach fetish porn (silby), Sunday, 3 July 2011 04:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
i've probably mentioned it before since i'm so rmde proud of myself but i went to linux because my Vista hard drive died and i didn't feel like replacing it so i used an ubuntu livecd and no hard drive for like a year. eventually i updated to booting off of an SD card. it's the living in a van down by the river of computing.
anyway other than flash, mp3, and some video codecs i don't know about any plugins.. but i just web surf and draw stuff so..
― shire labloomps (Kerm), Sunday, 3 July 2011 13:11 (1 year ago) Permalink
sheer amount of effort i needed to put into things just to run super simple tasks. plugins, plugins, plugins, plugins....
what are these super simple tasks?
most things in linux now are pretty easy!
― tpp, Sunday, 3 July 2011 13:22 (1 year ago) Permalink
please do not mention moonlight/silverlight
― coffeetripperspillerslyricmakeruppers (Latham Green), Sunday, 3 July 2011 19:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
I can live with this as it's the only clue most of them give you that they need KDE before you install them, and I don't run KDE
― sticky crisco (a passing spacecadet), Sunday, 3 July 2011 21:38 (1 year ago) Permalink
they must be confused by the word knome/gnome
― coffeetripperspillerslyricmakeruppers (Latham Green), Sunday, 3 July 2011 21:43 (1 year ago) Permalink
On the subject of audio in Linux, I've had a lot success with AV Linux.
http://www.bandshed.net/AVLinux.html
The developer has JACK working fairly well, and its a Realtime Kernel so latency isn't really an issue when it comes to recording.
Ubuntu Studio on the other hand is just vaporware.
I've also heard really good things about Studio64, but I only run Linux on older 32 bit systems so I've never tried it.
As far as Ardour goes, it works, but I'd suggest paying for it you want anything other than basic functionality. You can't even really edit with the free version. You can pop files back and forth between Ardour and Audacity but its extremely time consuming and tedious.
I use the native Linux version of Renoise and its very very stable. One of my favorite pseudo DAWs, but its still tracker software at heart, so if you can't stand coding I'd suggest something else. All that being said I also own a Macbook and wouldn't recommend putting all your eggs in one basket if you've only got one computer. I've tried about 8 different flavors of Linux before I found one that I liked and that was stable enough to use for audio editing and songwriting.
― hermetic.ethic, Sunday, 3 July 2011 22:46 (1 year ago) Permalink
One word of caution: AV Linux is kind of a bear to set up.
Its much easier to transition from Ubuntu to it, than doing it from a Windows PC.
I'd suggest getting Ubuntu set up on a partition and then using it for a month or two before moving over. Get to know various software in the Debian environment so that you know what kind of stuff to tweak the basic AV Linux build with. I'm no coder, I just smash together bits and pieces of other people's code until something works. It really helps to be willing to completely scrap an OS and start over again if you have to.
But AV Linux does have very detailed step by step install directions which is a refreshing change of pace in the he-man world of open source software. Seriously though, this guy built an OS by himself and it works really well. That's Bill Gates territory in my book.
― hermetic.ethic, Sunday, 3 July 2011 22:52 (1 year ago) Permalink
As long as I'm doing the knowledge dump thing.
http://www.64studio.com/faq_user
I found this FAQ on Studio64's site enormously helpful when I was setting up my USB audio interface with JACK.
"The performance of my USB audio interface with Jack is poor. I can't get low latency without xruns, using the default Jack settings. What do I need to change?
USB audio interfaces can act strangely when set to 2 periods/buffer, the usual default for PCI sound cards or onboard chipsets. In Jack Control, please set Periods/Buffer to 3 and Frames/Period to a fairly high figure, say 256 or 512. Then try lower Frames/Period settings until you reach the lower latency limits of your system. If you don't need full duplex, setting Jack to Playback Only or Capture Only will improve performance."
I use a cheapo Alesis one, its got 2 ins, 2 outs and a Midi In/Out.
With Renoise running the JACK server you can do some really amazing stuff, it makes Rewire seem like a quaint toy in comparison. On the other hand if you use VSTs heavily in Windows getting them running in Linux is enormously difficult. That's one of the few battles I gave up on. I just settled on using Linux based plug ins, which are mostly pretty terrible.
These days I mostly use Renoise for composition and then move the file over to the Macbook and edit them in Logic.
― hermetic.ethic, Sunday, 3 July 2011 23:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
I would like to try all that if I had the time. As it is I am considering getting my cassette based tascam out of the basement.
― coffeetripperspillerslyricmakeruppers (Latham Green), Monday, 4 July 2011 12:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
I have a Mac at work. I would like to read files on a 2 TB USB drive with an ext3 filesystem. If I install VIrtualBox (virtualbox.org), will I be able to do this? The VirtualBox documentation mentions Linux 2.6. How is Ubuntu related to Linux 2.6? I've heard the former works with ext3. Has anyone done this before? Should I be concerned about memory or anything like that? Thanks in advance.
― youn, Monday, 25 July 2011 23:20 (1 year ago) Permalink
Check out Vagrant: http://vagrantup.com/
More than likely you'll get a command line-only linux install you can connect to locally, but the setup time will be very low.
― mh, Monday, 25 July 2011 23:47 (1 year ago) Permalink
go with Ubuntu 10.04, the latest LTS (long term support) release. it's the most stable and doesn't have Unity.
any recent ubuntu will work with ext3 (ext3 is commonest but last generation file system, probably 10 years old now (yes, added to kernel in 2001) and superceded by ext4 (2008) and, soon, btrfs).
and 2.6 is the kernel revision, and any recent ubuntu will have a 2.6 kernel.
the bigger issue might be usb support in VirtualBox. was a time when the free version didn't support it.
― koogs, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 08:35 (1 year ago) Permalink
Actually, this is probably easier:http://sourceforge.net/projects/fuse-ext2/
Support for ext2/ext3 disks in OS X.
― mh, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 14:50 (1 year ago) Permalink
Thanks! I haven't had a chance to try this yet because I've been sidetracked with other projects, but hopefully before the weekend, I'll get to try different options ... This is when I am truly thankful for ILX!!!
― youn, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 22:24 (1 year ago) Permalink
Hello Justin86,
We at Ubuntu Forums would like to wish you a happy birthday today!
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 8 August 2011 01:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
I am very disappointed at the lack of nerdery in that birthday greeting. Like I'm sure the slackware forum sends you a message in obfuscated c or something.
― it is a nine-dimensional exposure-based ** "fairy" faction (los blue jeans), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 13:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
also kind of lol that this is the first one of these i get after being inactive on the forum for like 3 years
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 14:26 (1 year ago) Permalink
pysched for the linux spotify if it ever occurs
― hwy not write Ohkhaye!" Onktean? (Latham Green), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 15:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
http://www.spotify.com/uk/blog/archives/2010/07/12/linux/
― ledge, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 15:14 (1 year ago) Permalink
well look at that
― hwy not write Ohkhaye!" Onktean? (Latham Green), Tuesday, 9 August 2011 15:18 (1 year ago) Permalink
I tried it but after install it would not allow me to log in - shit!
― I love obscure members of the Athrotheiria mammal genus and... (Latham Green), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 15:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
you need to be a premium member.
― koogs, Wednesday, 10 August 2011 16:29 (1 year ago) Permalink
"UPDATE: Spotify for Linux is now also available for Spotify Unlimited subscribers."I idiotically thought that was the free version
― I love obscure members of the Athrotheiria mammal genus and... (Latham Green), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 16:42 (1 year ago) Permalink
that puts me in the unusual position of using a program for free in windows but paying for the linux version
― I love obscure members of the Athrotheiria mammal genus and... (Latham Green), Wednesday, 10 August 2011 16:48 (1 year ago) Permalink
Had Ubuntu shares visible and r/w in Lion. Rebooted Ubuntu and I can't see the shares anymore. I think that's the end for me and Linux.
― Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 07:15 (1 year ago) Permalink
after months of annoyance i definitely think 11.04 is the worst release of ubuntu ever. has anyone else had the thing when you go to install a printer and it asks you for a root password?.....A ROOT PASSWORD?
if the next release isn't a lot slicker i'm gonna switch distros. what do non-ubuntu people use?
― P-NASTY (tpp), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 08:54 (1 year ago) Permalink
linux 4 life
― P-NASTY (tpp), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 08:57 (1 year ago) Permalink
Top 10 here --> http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=major
Linux Mint is probably the way to go now. I'm out of touch with the whole scene but that one comes up a lot.
has anyone else had the thing when you go to install a printer and it asks you for a root password?.....A ROOT PASSWORD?
No, but I don't think I've tried printing from 11.04. Unity crashed so often that I moved to unity-2d.
I see no point in going back to Gnome if they're killing it off completely in 11.10.
― Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 09:12 (1 year ago) Permalink
er bollocksed up the paragraph points there