FWIW I meant "shit" in the non-insulting sense there but like I say I don't see many people hailing those as classics
― i'm stabbin' my way to the top (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 16:25 (fifteen years ago) link
It really annoys me that terrific albums have come out this year by Torche, Harvey Milk, Earth, Esoteric to name 4 off the top of my head. Yet they produce that list. The Bronx album is ok but never a top 20 albu,. Not heard Gojira or Enslaved so I'll reserve judgement on that, but they seem token metal albums. Mettalica at no1 can just fuck off though. When the next album comes out that will be seen as better than this one. It just smacks of desperation to proclaim metallica are back. Noone wanted a fantastic Metallica album than me, but it didnt happen. It's getting props for not being St Anger. Load is better than it FFS. I bet the list was compiled 2 weeks after it came out. If it was done now that the album has proved to be a letdown on further listens (even jeff agrees with me) , I dont believe it would be no1. (then I look at the rest of the list and see no better albums).Maybe that's what it is. "Lets put 19 shitty albums in there to make it look like Metallica really was album of the year!"
All the talk on the rolling metal thread has been of a golden year for metal. You wouldn't know it by Kerrangs list. Wish the Terrorizer list was out.
Nothing against Geir, but it's a sad day when he knows more about metal than Kerrang staff!
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 16:32 (fifteen years ago) link
Anyone want to run a metal albums of the year thing like the ILX albums/Tracks that Musically runs?
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 16:34 (fifteen years ago) link
I've emailed her asking how she runs hers. I think it might be worth doing.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 16:42 (fifteen years ago) link
I bet people on the metal thread'd be up for it, loads of people did lists sometime in autumn yeah? I never got round to it.
I know the Terrorizer list but I can't tell you what's on it. I assumed it'd be in the current issue in the shops actually, I thought they'd have enough time.
Srsly tho that list up there gets worse every time I look at it - it's not even me (or whoever) not liking the bands, it's more like almost ALL those records being 'like their other ones but not quite as good'
― i'm stabbin' my way to the top (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 16:54 (fifteen years ago) link
I've not heard Johnny Truant or Amon Amarth or Meshuggah, they might well be career highlights. No-one seems to think the NIN or AC/DC or Enslaved or Weezer or Alkaline Trio or Slipknot or the Bronx or Metallica are. Cancer Bats and The Gaslight Anthem are basically new bands, Scars On Broadway are just filling in for System Of A Down right?, people seemed to be riding harder for Gojira and BMTH when they did their first albums... um, I think that's everyone covered?
― i'm stabbin' my way to the top (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 16:59 (fifteen years ago) link
DJ Mencap is pretty straight on, although I do think there are those who think Enslaved is their best yet (I'm not one of them, but pretty sure even a few on this board might say so). The Alk Trio album is their best major label release yet, but fat from topping the early stuff.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 17:06 (fifteen years ago) link
Meshuggah album is good but def not a career highlight
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 17:13 (fifteen years ago) link
oh, I dunno about that...it's probably my favourite meshuggah album. it's just so tightly focused and lean, but a bit more varied than, say, nothing or DEI.
I'd argue for bedlam in goliath being TMV's second-best album, too.
there's a lot of stuff on this list that I haven't heard/don't care about. kind of surprised GnR didn't make it though (even though it was awful).
― m the g, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 17:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Well, Kerrang are still Kerrang with Metallica on top of the list. But it seems their perception of what is metal or hard rock hasn't changed since the 80s. Which may provoke some metal fans.
― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 17:32 (fifteen years ago) link
How do you mean? If you're trying to say that if K! cover it, that means they're deeming it to be metal or hard rock... there is no way on earth that The Night Marchers album would have been reviewed by them in 1984
― i'm stabbin' my way to the top (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 17:54 (fifteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro, Wednesday, December 17, 2008 5:32 PM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yeah list is loaded down with 80s-style metal bands...like...um...weezer...and mogwai...and akaline trio...and mars volta
― M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 18:00 (fifteen years ago) link
like honest geir do you even read stuff before you comment or do you basically have your commments down before you click the thread, actually that would be hilarious and explain a lot.
― M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 18:01 (fifteen years ago) link
I take back what I said upthread
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link
So any volunteers to run an ilx metal list? I dont have office on my comp so i cant just put stuff in excel.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 20:06 (fifteen years ago) link
hah that killed thread
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 22:14 (fifteen years ago) link
02 The Gaslight Anthem - The '59 Sound
ok i love the shit out of this album but what the FUCK is it doing in kerrang
― the HOOS from the hilarious internet connection (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 22:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Oh, what the hell? I wrote a whole long thing and it didn't go through? Bloody hell. The short of it: Amon Amarth, Gojira, Enslaved, NIN = rad, Bring Me the Horizon = WTF?
― Agent ov Fortune (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 22:45 (fifteen years ago) link
Not that I really care about this magazine, though, not being British. To be honest, I'm only familiar with it because of Kerr's rants and that part in "Get in the Ring" where Axl rags on them.
― Agent ov Fortune (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 22:46 (fifteen years ago) link
Rewrite the whole thing!
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 17 December 2008 23:10 (fifteen years ago) link
It's not quite as abysmal as when they named Biffy Clyro their 2007 album of the year.
― A. Begrand, Wednesday, 17 December 2008 23:16 (fifteen years ago) link
true. that really was low. But at least a few really good albums did make that list.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 18 December 2008 00:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Last tears top 201 Biffy Clyro - Puzzle (14th Floor)2 Dillinger Escape Plan - Ire Works (Relapse)3 Machine Head - The Blackening (Roadrunner)4 Queens Of The Stone Age - Era Vulgaris (Polydor)5 Every Time I Die - The Big Dirty (Ferret)6 The Ghost Of A Thousand - This is Where The Fight begins (Undergroove)7 Serj Tankian - Elect The Dead (Reprise)8 Nine Inch Nails - Year Zero (Interscope)9 Down - Down III : Over The Under (WEA)10 Fall Out Boy - Infinity On High (Island)11 Jimmy Eat World - Chase This Light (Interscope)12 Coheed And Cambria - No World For Tomorrow (Sony BMG)13 Reuben - In Nothing We Trust (Hideous)14 Thrice - The Alchemy Index (Vagrant)15 Baroness - Red (Relapse)16 Avenged Sevenfold - S/t (Warners)17 Municipal Waste - The Art Of Partying (Earache)18 High On Fire - Death Is This Communion (Relapse)19 Against Me! - New Wave (Sire)20 Electric Wizard - Witchcult Today (Rise Above)
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 18 December 2008 00:52 (fifteen years ago) link
So overall this years is far worse
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 18 December 2008 01:24 (fifteen years ago) link
who are the gaslight anthem anyway? They're in the NME list too
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 18 December 2008 02:57 (fifteen years ago) link
bruce springsteen + emo. it's better than that if you're into that
― k3vin k., Thursday, 18 December 2008 03:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Was gonna say The Hold Steady for Gallows fans, but narcissism of small etc
― i'm stabbin' my way to the top (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 18 December 2008 09:55 (fifteen years ago) link
hmm. I'll stick to The Hold Steady thanks.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 18 December 2008 13:23 (fifteen years ago) link
terrorizer isnt out til jan 4th i think. I hope it's a good list.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 18 December 2008 14:23 (fifteen years ago) link
i hope metallica didnt win it
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 18 December 2008 22:01 (fifteen years ago) link
When did mark grout get off the kerrang bus btw?
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 18 December 2008 22:45 (fifteen years ago) link
never on it.
― Mark G, Thursday, 18 December 2008 22:48 (fifteen years ago) link
haha i knew you would still be reading this thread though!
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 18 December 2008 22:51 (fifteen years ago) link
And you honestly never read it in your teens?I gave up on kerrang only a few years ago. I cant resist the xmas specials though. This year is the worst though.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 18 December 2008 22:52 (fifteen years ago) link
No it didn't exist when I was in my teens.
― Mark G, Thursday, 18 December 2008 22:57 (fifteen years ago) link
Did you read Sounds?
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 18 December 2008 23:03 (fifteen years ago) link
mm hmm.
― Mark G, Thursday, 18 December 2008 23:05 (fifteen years ago) link
Going with NIN (the worst one I heard).
― xhuxk, Thursday, 18 December 2008 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link
that's one of the better ones
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 19 December 2008 00:05 (fifteen years ago) link
johnny truant wins worst name award
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 19 December 2008 14:15 (fifteen years ago) link
dont you agree?
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 19 December 2008 16:12 (fifteen years ago) link
If you'd just encountered the name 'Weezer' I don't think you'd be saying that
― please_stanton_dont_burt_em (DJ Mencap), Friday, 19 December 2008 16:39 (fifteen years ago) link
So no one fancies running an ilx metal albums of the year thing?
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 19 December 2008 17:54 (fifteen years ago) link
Running? No. Contributing to? Yes.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 19 December 2008 17:55 (fifteen years ago) link
I still havent heard back from musically how she runs hers. I know most of the rolling metal posters would write blurbs to go with each album, but it's the actual compiling of it that concerns me as i dont have office on my comp any more. Im pretty sure musically uses excel.
I'd have a go if noone else wants to but im not sure id be able to do it.
Plus is there enough demand? there's no point if there's only gonna be 10-15 people voting.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 19 December 2008 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link
Nominate Albums For ILM's Metal Albums Of The Year 2008 (closes Jan 1st )
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 19 December 2008 18:47 (fifteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link
bump
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 15:00 (fifteen years ago) link
and again
tho the mars volta will probably runaway with it
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 20:19 (fifteen years ago) link
How I hate The Mars Volta. I'm sure their ability to play instruments might be beyond my comprehension but if they can't use that to make a tune it's just pointless for me.
― elgolfo, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 21:35 (fifteen years ago) link
im surprised at the mars volta hate when theres worse bands on that list tbh
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 24 December 2008 22:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Thursday, 25 December 2008 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link
...and justice for all.
― rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Thursday, 25 December 2008 05:48 (fifteen years ago) link
lol @ death magnetic thread with people kissing its ass
― rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Thursday, 25 December 2008 05:49 (fifteen years ago) link
rofl
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 25 December 2008 13:35 (fifteen years ago) link
roxy did you vote metallica?
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 26 December 2008 00:07 (fifteen years ago) link
nice to see metallica and that 'death magnetic' fraud in number one spot, though i'm sure the slipknot and mars volta records are pretty horrid. seems to be a pretty dire list on the whole, with only the enslaved, meshuggah and amon amarth jumping out at me as truly worthy contenders for the year
― Charlie Howard, Friday, 26 December 2008 06:27 (fifteen years ago) link
thats kerrang for you
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 26 December 2008 13:58 (fifteen years ago) link
of course i did, i've been calling that album a piece of shit since it first emerged as a piece of shit
― rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Friday, 26 December 2008 21:31 (fifteen years ago) link
You called it right. You should be editor of Kerrang.
― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 27 December 2008 00:04 (fifteen years ago) link
wouldnt edit the byline of that p.o.s.
― rox qua rox (roxymuzak), Saturday, 27 December 2008 00:16 (fifteen years ago) link
I can't help but wonder if the people that voted for the Meshuggah album didn't understand the poll. No way is that WORSE than many of these albums.
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 15:38 (fourteen years ago) link
Indeed. Nothing wrong with Obzen either.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link